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Where'd the Win-Loss Thread get moved to?

Skinner!

Yeah, Jeff Hardy has had a great 13 months in the IC division. Other than the Umaga 1st reign to Marella awfulness, the IC division has been rather fun, with some good stuff from Nitro/Jeff, Umaga/Jeff, Shelton/Jeff, and Kennedy/Jeff.

Well anyone with a brain knows Orton and Triple H need to be separated since Raw has exactly 1 main event face.

Is the plan for another Triple H Vs. Orton match at the PPV? Or is Triple H/Umaga scheduled (seemed to be from tonight).

Let's see if Kennedy can add another dubious moment to his 2007 highlight reel...

"hen your referring to stuff from years ago that no one remembers unless you look it up?" Yes, no one remembers Val Venis in the Attitude Era. Or the awesome "Snitsky Punts a Baby" angle. No one at all. We should be ashamed for having a discussion of wrestling on a wrestling message board.

JBL needs to chase this shitty band back across the border.

Shouldn't Regal be the one walking with a cane to sell his Cena beatdown? Did the writers just give forget and give Coach the cane, thinking he was Regal? Why do they care where Hornswaggle is? He was obviously capable of being left alone for 5 minutes, oh, I don't know, the entire year he was under a WWE contract as a wrestler that he was on Smackdown. Is he going to die if he doesn't have supervision?

"....psst, it's a work." No shit, mark. We were debating the storyline character's placement on the card. Now why don't you go post and mark-out for meeting Kurt Angle again?

Why does Coach have a cane?

The (Soccer) Hooligans win!

Why does Rory "seem" to be the leader of the Highlanders, JR? LonDrick were not tag champs "well over a year".

You really want Jericho to face Orton soon? Since Orton is destined to hold the title for many months? Wouldn't that kill Jericho from the start? Likely: Jericho feuds with Carlito upon his return.

Get Umaga away from the heavyweights and put him back in there with Jeff. I can't believe I'm saying this but Orton/HHH has been a rather great feud so far. Delivering the in-ring work, very good booking, and good crowd heat. You know, since Umaga is basically a clown anyway now, his running corner attack should be called "Ass To Mouth". I'd pop for JR's "ASS TO MOUTH! BY GAWD, NO! HE HAS DELIVERED ASS TO MOUTH!"

Randy Orton had damn well better not lose a match (meaning take a pin or submission) until Mania. If they do this "Triple H has won, can he do it again at the PPV!" shit, it'll kill his title momentum, which actually has a chance to develop.

I don't recall Snitsky losing clean to Chavo. But Snitsky has still been higher up the card than Val Venis has ever been, main eventing Survivor Series '04 (with a chance to earn a World Title shot as a favor from Bischoff) and being pushed better during his run. Val was the IC, Euro and Tag Champ, but at times when those titles were worthless, and he his title runs for all three were rather heatless and poorly received.

Umaga has gone from unbeatable super-heel to Meng 1998.

"he should be able to take Snitsky..." Snitsky has beaten Kane clean on PPV. Even at his most over in 1998-99, Val Venis could never do that.

Marketing genius Santino shows the fans how to "make the matches" for Cyber Sunday.

Val Venis looks like shit.

"so used to LMS matches being so underwhelming" You haven't seen the WWE MOTY from the Rumble then.

Fun-Time Star Ratings Triple H/Orton I - ** 1/2 Jeff Hardy & LonDrick Vs. Kennedy & Redneck Wrecking Crew - * 1/2 Punk/BDV - * Rey/Finlay - ** Triple H/Umaga - ** Candice/Phoenix - * 1/2 Batista/Khali - * 1/2 Triple H/Orton Last Man Standing - ****

NO MERCY THOUGHTS: Bad show with a great main event. EXCELLENT main event. Perfectly excuted and makes Orton legit now. At least as legit as the guy who gets the belt after Cena without beating him can be. The Punjabi Match was better than it should have been, but still not very exciting. Spider-Batista! The 6-Man was botched all over the place, and Kennedy looked terrible. Disappointing. Women's Match finish was weak. Average. That promo was horrendous. Trips/Orton I was okay. Good booking. Pizza Eating was god awful. Taker/Kane needed to chokeslam both of them through the table. Triple H/Umaga was dissapointing. Umaga needs quicker bumpers. Finlay/Rey was average. Stretcher Match at Cyber Sunday I reckon.

Don't blame me for the comparison, blame WWE for booking them for the fans. It's not like I said either has the talent of the original. CM Punk is getting squashed tonight. In Chicago.