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Download the real Halloween Havoc from PWTorrents. Since you've already paid for it on 24/7 and were not given the full show, there should be no morality questions about doing so. Noticeable things: The "spooky" awesome theme music for Halloween Havoc '89 is replaced in the beginning and some generic crap is thrown in, making the feel of the event go from cool to corny. The crowd immediately craps on the Rountda/Z-Man match. Z-Man gets some cheers, starts celebrating, and the rest of the crowd shuts down the marks by boo-ing him. Interesting note from JR, it was the "female fans" that gave him tyhe "Z-Man" name. Adding more to my dislike of Zenk. This match sucks and the crowd lets out a giant "BOR-ING" chant as JR describes the match offense as "very basic". Crowd now loves Rotunda for battering Z-Man. Actually, the home video version of Havoc '89, unlike other events with missing undercard matches, has all the matches. Just some clip-jobs.
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Along with a billion 70s/80s villains, I expect one of the "imaginary characters" to be Hitler.
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"Does anyone remember around which time Faarooq disbands the NOD and starts fresh with D'Lo Brown?" July-ish. Rock comes along a few weeks later and does a run-in. His first heel match is Vs. Chainz.
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Plug in a WCW Saturday Night to go against the post-IYH: Revenge of the Taker "ambulance" Raw, please.
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The babyface imagination characters: * An acorn * Anubis * Astroboy * Aquaman * Bigfoot * A Blue Meanie (from The Beatles movie Yellow Submarine) * Ben Affleck * Blooregard Q. Kazoo * Buddha (Siddhārtha Gautama) * Charlie Brown * Cheetara * Cinderella * Mr. Clean * Count Chocula * Cowboy with a lasso * Draco from DragonHeart * Dick Tracy * Duckman * The Flash * Franklin the Turtle * Funshine Bear * The giant taco that craps out ice cream from Cancelled * Gizmo from Gremlins * Goldust * Grumpy Bear * Humpty Dumpty * H.R.Pufnstuf * Incredible Hulk * Iron Man * A black bandana wearing "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" * Link from The Legend of Zelda * Little Red Riding Hood * The Lollipop King * Nicole Kidman * Mad Hatter from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland * Mario * Master Chief * Matt Damon * Moses * Mothra * Mr. Peanut * Mr. Potato Head * Ronald McDonald * Mighty Mouse * Mr. Tumnus from The Chronicles of Narnia * Mushu from Mulan * The Prince from Katamari Damacy * Peter Rabbit * Phil Collins * Optimus Prime * Orko * Raggedy Andy * Raggedy Ann * Rapunzel * Santa Claus * Scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz * A Schmoo * Jack Skellington * Joseph Smith * A Smurf * Snarf * Strawberry Shortcake * Star Bellied Sneech with moon on chest * Tom Cruise * Mr. Toad from Wind in the Willows * Totoro from My Neighbor Totoro * Tree from Wizard of Oz * Twinkie the Kid * Unicorn from The Last Unicorn * Uncle Remus from Song of the South * V.I.N.CENT from The Black Hole * Voltron * A Wild Thing from Where The Wild Things Are * Willy Wonka * Wonder Woman We better get Freddy and Jason next week as well as countless other ass-kickers.
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Box Office Report 10/12-10/14
UseTheSledgehammerUh replied to Gary Floyd's topic in Television & Film
"The Comebacks" looks worse than "Date Movie" or "Epic Movie" did, if that's possible. -
It did say "go.jeri.go". Two of us saw it. You're one person. In the center of the screen between other numbers/letters. I don't care to argue as it's not like it excites me or not like we don't know who it's leading to, but it's there.
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I hope we get the oft-overlooked "VERBAL DEBATE" as a stipulation. Should've been Batista Vs. Coach, Vader, and Goldust!
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Rey/Finlay - Stretcher Match, Shileileh (sp?) On a Pole, No DQ will probably be an option.
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The roster is ultra-thin and they're using a boring "respect" angle between a kid who is a terrible wrestler and an always-slow veteran who can't deliver. Everyone will fall in love with this duo because they're better pontential tag title contenders than London and Kendrick, who got mega-over on Smackdown! despite the tag division having crap like D n D and Stevens & James to face every week. THIS IS WHAT WWE WRITERS REALLY BELIEVE.
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King referred to it as a "binary code" (ugh...) interruption and smirked that he knows what it means but is gonna keep quiet.
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YES! I'm glad we got a match with a generic, bland-looking, no-gimmick OVW product in black tights. I hadn't seen one on TV in like 6 minutes, I was getting worried.
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The video saying "go. jeri. go." is kind of a giveaway. Wow, this Raw is awful. And the video quality is ass, along with the heatless/bad matches, endless recap videos, and unfunny cartoons.
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Ken Shamrock cuts the worst interview ever. "Yes I was the special referee and Austin was unconscious so I needed to get in there. You see when I was reffing, Austin was, uh, uh he was out cold so that's why I stepped in. When I saw that he was unconscious I stepped in because I was the guest referee. Uh. Uh." Owen: "You're so selfish, Bulldog!" Savio Vs. Ahmed on Post-Mania Raw does NOT suck. Honky Tonk: "The Brooklyn Brawler told me earlier he wanted me to take a close look at him." Honky Tonk: "Move, Lombardi!" Sid: "Get in here, you chicken shit!" Ahmed does the Rock Bottom, the signal for the People's Elbow, and the Rock spinebuster in consecutive order... Bret: "I think it was really a gay magazine." Ahmed: "IMAKEADEALWITYOUSEGUYZ."
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Basically, Raw started to get good once it became "Raw is War" in February and used the Manson song. LOL @ "C'mon, Vince! I thought I was gonna get SOME TIME! When do I get SOME TIME? Can I have SOME TIME?" "Stop whining, Bret!" "SHUT UP, LAWLER."
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Man, you guys are in for a treat if you've never seen Halloween Havoc 1989. The pop at the end of Freebirds/Dynamic Dudes from the anti-babyface Philly crowd is something out of the Austin '98 books. Seriously. Plus great stuff like Luger/Pillman, and the blowoff to the awesome Bash '89 ending with Flair & Sting Vs. Funk & Muta in an f'n electrified steel cage with a rope swing and Bruno Sammartino referring. Oh and the Steiner Brothers tearing shit up, with Woman's big PPV match debut alongside Doom. Plus, Road Warriors Vs. Skyscrapers which Jim Ross sells as the biggest tag match of all-time, pretty much. A shame we won't hear "Welcome to the Jungle", "Her Strut", "Rocket", Funk's theme, and countless other "real" songs but what can ya do? I've never seen the full, non-Turner version of this show. I'm psyched.
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The ECW on 24/7 has Beulah/Raven/Stevie/Dreamer's "I'm Pregnant..." angle, one of the best wrestling show endings ever from the 1990's.
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"at least one Flair/Muta PPV main event" Muta announced in late December before Starrcade he would be returning exclusively to Japan. Hence the Starrcade jobbing and subsequent mega de-push after his amazing 1989. Flair/Muta does take place at Starrcade, and Muta does one of the greatest mists ever, spraying Flair (who bumps down at 100 miles an hour onto his back) after the Flair/Funk main event at Bash 89. This Clash main event (originally Flair/Sting/Arn Vs. J-Tex minus Gary Hart) would be the modern equivalent of Cena, Batista, and Hardy Vs. Duece, Domino, and Finlay. Just a forgone conclusion.
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Hercules didn't really work TV as a face. He kinda just got some pops at the 92 Rumble and worked house shows as a pseudo face to put people over, hence the heel P & G tights. MSG 92 HIGHLIGHTS SO FAR: The Bezerker tries to win a match...by using A PINFALL! The GWF's own "Conan" Chris Walker Vs. Warlord feud continues! Walker had like 4 TV matches in '92, including a PINFALL VICTORY over Warlord using the super slow huricanrana! Some awesome bouncy flying axe-handles and crossbodies. Can Walker do it again? The debut of Dr. Harvey as Sid's manager! The super-safe Sid powerbomb! REPO MAN! Steals something from a crowd member! Monsoon and Heenan flip out! "SHE OWED MONEY ON THAT WATCH!" "WILL YOU STOP!" Flair cuts a promo about a battle royal and is all like "Alfred, I just won the motherfucking Royal Rumble in the best WWE match ever and lasted 60 minutes, so this fucking little kid 20 man battle royal will be cake." Oh man the battle royal gets its own "Rumble"-esque promos. BABYFACE BULLDOG Vs. BABYFACE UNDERTAKER SUPER RARITY MATCH _______ "the television during the in between periods end up being dreadfully boring" Well, do you want: Edge Vs. Batista announced in January and given to you in April, with Edge and Batista squashing jobbers/low-carders/1 big opponent for 3 months? OR Edge Vs. Batista announced in January, but they face each other every single week until the match in February. Repeat for 3 months until feud is blown off. Each sucks. I take the "payoff" option #1, personally.
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I'm really not liking this 15-minute undercard matches with Poffo/Sharpe, Tonga/Goulet, and Spot/Kirschner. They're just atrocious. Did the world NEED a time-limit draw jobber opener with Sharpe and Poffo?
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"John Cena's not a big phenomena" I'd venture he has sold more merchandise in this decade than any other professional wrestler. And agree on the WWE being stale and all the same. It's like they desperately NEED each show to be the same. Come on, seriously, is there one good reason why AAE is the GM on ECW? It's so random. But he's a non-wrestling bad-guy! Heel GM, that will be shocking!
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Man, WWE could do wonders with a "Tuesday Night Titans"-esque show to help give their entire roster some much needed fan interest. Greg Valentine comes off as a natural fucking pimp heel. Beefcake is wearing the greatest shirt ever. So many little "details" about each character, the Bulldogs promising to stay in the US if they win the belts, Muraco's hatred of other beach-dwellers, Albano's career, get explained casually. I like with Danny Spivey, who has the charisma of a log, Vince and Alfred just talk to each other and finish his sentences for him.
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Also, what shows (PPVs?) generally have the "Pop-Up Video" facts? How frequent are they during matches? What's incredible is that simultaneously you have: ORIGINAL HORSEMEN KILLING SPREE, HART FOUNDATION Vs. STONE COLD, nWo Vs. WCW, and RAVEN Vs. DREAMER In my opinion, the greatest angles of NWA, WWF, WCW, and ECW, respectively. All shown at once. Incredible. Boston (85 show) hits first two matches with "BORING" chants... During Tonga/Goulet, they cut to teenager in the front row, who you can audibly hear/see yelling "Goulet, you faggot!" Yo guys, for Survivor Series 95, look for: UNDERTAKER CHOKESLAMS "SIR" MO. MO NO-SELLS IT (!!!) AND RUNS OUT OF THE RING FULL-SPEED. ALUNDRA BLAYZE PINS FAT BERTHA FAYE. FAYE NO SELLS THE PIN AND RUNS OUT OF THE RING IMMEDIATELY. And out of WWE. The sir Mo thing is incredible. Towards the end of Taker's SS Match, I believe. And holy shit the "Underdog" opener is awesome. Chris Candido gets HIT WITH the Top-Rope Powerbomb. In WWE. Perfectly. Survivor Series '95 is a great, rarely seen PPV. Rene Goulet is the worst wrestler ever.
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Halloween Havoc 1991 had a fun main event with Luger/Simmons, 2/3 falls and the emotional quest of Simmons to become the first black World Champion over the pompous Luger. Harley Race's "A negro like you used to carry my bags!" made it the reverse Apollo/Balboa. Sick match. So I ordered WWE 24/7 for the first time today! Love it! 1 question, I don't see GAB 2007? Where is it? Shit, gotta finish this Lanny Poffo/Mike Sharpe showdown before October 10th hits!