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Aw shit, nevermind, Denver is up fucking place I took the order from hadn't updated.

Ok, time is up on Cleveland so we'll go Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon for them Baltimore pmed me the pick - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis Philadelphia takes - Brodrick Bunkley, DT, FSU The Eagles desperately lacked a pass rush last year and were torched for it. Other than Mike Patterson's flashes, they got almost no pressure up the middle at all. Considered going Chad Greenway here as they also need a SAM, but a combination of them never taking a 1st round LB and the fact a pass rush will make the entire defense that much better brings it to Bunkley. Atlanta is on the clock

pm'ed pick Rams take Mathais Kiwanuka- DE Boston College Cleveland is on the clock

The clock is now running EHME is up with Buffalo/Detroit

"The official time when the clock starts will be tomorrow (the 3rd) at 9:00 pm EST"

With the third pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Tennessee Titans select: Matt Leinart, USC, QB McNair's coming to the end of the road, Volek isn't exactly a spring chicken, so the consensus is QB seems to be the way to go. After that it comes down to Leinart (Chow's boy) vs. Young (McNair's boy). I am not completely convinced on Leinart as being a franchise QB, but it is hard to argue with what he accomplished at USC and the unease about Leinart is nothing compared to my uneasiness about Young. The Jets are up

teke's pick: With the 2nd pick of the 1st round, the New Orleans Saints choose... D'Brickashaw Ferguison, OT, University of Virginia Thanks to C LeCharles Bentley leaving as a free agent, LT Wayne Gandy getting older, and RT Jammal Brown's natural tendencies fitting his current spot rather than Left Tackle, Ferguison is definitely a great pick to fill a serious need for the Saints. They need to have a good pass defender up on the QB's blindside now that they've dumped Aaron "King of the 30-Yard Sack" Brooks and poured a lot of money into a proven winner, Drew Brees. Ferguson is projected to be the kind of tackle who is excellent at pass-blocking on the NFL level, which is just what the Saints are going to need to protect their very expensive new QB. With an O-Line bookended by Ferguison and Brown, Brees should be able to get enough time to throw to star WRs Joe Horn and Donte Stallworth.

Welcome to the 2006 TSM NFL Mock Draft. The official time when the clock starts will be tomorrow (the 3rd) at 9:00 pm EST, but we can start as soon as C_V makes the Houston pick. Each pick will be given 12 hours. If your 12 hours expire, a pick will be made for you. If you show up before the next pick is made, the pick can be changed. If you do not show up before the next pick, you are S.O.L. Strong suggestion: If you see you are within the next 5 or so picks and know you will be away from the computer for a stretch, please pm someone a list of selections and make sure to list enough players to cover every spot until yours (ex. if you are up in 5 picks, make sure to make your list 5 players long.) This will help us avoid another 3 weeks per round scenario and allow us to complete a second and third round for those who wish to stick around a while. If I am on when a pick is made, I'll send out a pm to whoever is next to remind, but still try to check in on this thread regularly just in case. We still have: Indy open if anyone wants to grab them. Draft Order: 1 Houston - Reggie Bush, USC, RB 2 New Orleans - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia, OT 3 Tennessee - Matt Leinart, USC, QB 4 New York Jets - Mario Williams, DE, NC State 5 Green Bay - AJ Hawk, LB, Ohio State 6 San Francisco - Michael Huff, S, Texas 7 Oakland - Vince Young, QB, Texas 8 Buffalo - Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland 9 Detroit - Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech 10 Arizona - Jay Cutler, QB, Arizona 11 St. Louis - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College 12 Cleveland - Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon 13 Baltimore - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis 14 Philadelphia - Brodrick Bunkley, DT, FSU 15 Denver - Santonio Holmes, WR, OSU 16 Miami - Donte Whitner, S, OSU 17 Minnesota - Lawrence Maroney, RB, Minnesota 18 Dallas - Winston Justice, OT, USC 19 San Diego - Chad Jackson, WR, Florida 20 Kansas City - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU 21 New England - LenDale White, RB, USC 22 Denver (f/WAS) - Nick Mangold, C, OSU 23 Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn 24 Cincinnati - Tye Hill, CB, Clemson 25 New York Giants - Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa 26 Chicago - Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA 27 Carolina - Ernie Sims, LB, FSU 28 Jacksonville - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia 29 NY Jets - Bobby Carpenter, LB, OSU 30 Indianapolis - Joseph Addai, RB, LSU 31 Seattle - Eric Winston, OT, Miami 32 Pittsburgh - Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami Second Round (posters are next to the teams that have confirmed for a second round) 33. Houston - Jason Allen, DB, Tenn 34. New Orleans - DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama 35. New York Jets - Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas 36. Green Bay - Maurice Drew, RB, UCLA 37. San Francisco - Manny Lawson, LB/DE, NC State 38. Oakland - Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina 39. Tennessee - D'Qwell Jackson, LB, Maryland 40. Detroit - Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green 41. Arizona - Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia 42. Buffalo - Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan 43. Cleveland- Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State 44. Baltimore - Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska 45. Philadelphia - Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP 46. St. Louis - Darnell Bing, S, USC 47. Atlanta - Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami 48. Minnesota - Taitusi Lutui, G, USC 49. Dallas - Pat Watkins, S, FSU 50. San Diego - Jonathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina 51. Minnesota (f/mia) - Abdul Hodge, LB, Iowa 52. New England - Cedric Griffin, DB, Texas 53. Washington - Roger McIntosh, LB, Miami 54. Kansas City - Martin Nance, WR, Miami (Ohio) 55. Cincinnati - Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB, Florida State 56. New York Giants - Claude Wroten, DT, LSU 57. Chicago - AJ Nicholson, LB, FSU 58. Carolina - Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame 59. Tampa Bay - Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma 60. Jacksonville - Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin 61. Denver - Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas 62. Indianapolis - Jonathan Lewis, DT, Virginia Tech 63. Seattle - Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue 64. Pittsburgh - tyler Drafted by position: QBs: 3 - Tennessee - Matt Leinart, USC 7 - Oakland - Vince Young, Texas 10 - Arizona - Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt 40 - Detroit - Omar Jacobs. Bowling Green RBs: 1 - Houston - Reggie Bush, USC 13 - Baltimore - DeAngelo Williams, Memphis 17 - Minnesota - Lawerence Maroney, Minnesota 21 - New England - LenDale White, USC 30 - Indianapolis - Joseph Addai, LSU 36 - Green Bay - Maurice Drew, UCLA 60 - Jacksonville - Brian Calhoun, Wisconsin WRs: 15 - Denver - Santonio Holmes, Ohio State 19 - San Diego - Chad Jackson, Florida 32 - Pittsburgh - Sinorice Moss, Miami 54 - Kansas City - Martin Nance, Miami (Ohio) TEs: 8 - Buffalo - Vernon Davis, Maryland 26 - Chicago - Marcedes Lewis, UCLA 28 - Jacksonville - Leonard Pope, Georgia 58 - Carolina - Anthony Fasano, Notre Dame OTs: 2 - New Orleans - D'Brickshaw Ferguson, Virginia 18 - Dallas - Winston Justice, USC 23 - Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeill, Auburn 31 - Seattle - Eric Winston, Miami 35 - New York Jets - Jonathan Scott, Texas OGs: 41 - Arizona - Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia 48 - Minnesota - Taitusi Lutui, USC 59 - Tampa Bay - Davin Joseph, Oklahoma Cs: 22 - Denver - Nick Mangold, Ohio State DEs: 4 - New York Jets - Mario Williams, NC State 11 - St. Louis - Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College 37 - San Francisco - Manny Lawson, NC State 43 - Cleveland- Tamba Hali, Penn State 55 - Cincinnati - Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State 63 - Seattle - Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue DTs: 12 - Cleveland - Haloti Ngata, Oregon 14 - Philadelphia - Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State 42 - Buffalo - Gabe Watson, Michigan 56 - New York Giants - Claude Wroten, LSU 61 - Denver - Rodrique Wright, Texas 62 - Indianapolis - Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech LBs: 5 - Green Bay - AJ Hawk, Ohio State 25 - New York Giants - Chad Greenway, Iowa 27 - Carolina - Ernie Sims, Florida State 29 - New York Jets - Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State 34 - New Orleans - DeMeco Ryans, Alabama 37 - San Francisco - Manny Lawson, NC State 39 - Tennessee - D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland 45 - Philadelphia - Thomas Howard, UTEP 51 - Minnesota (f/mia) - Abdul Hodge, Iowa 53 - Washington - Roger McIntosh, Miami 55 - Cincinnati - Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State 57 - Chicago - AJ Nicholson, FSU DBs: 6 - San Francisco - Michael Huff, Texas 9 - Detroit - Jimmy Williams, Va. Tech 16 - Miami - Donte Whitner, Ohio State 20 - Kansas City - Antonio Cromartie, FSU 24 - Cincinnati - Tye Hill, Clemson 33 - Houston - Jason Allen, Tennessee 38 - Oakland - Ko Simpson, South Carolina 44 - Baltimore - Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska 46 - St. Louis - Darnell Bing, USC 47 - Atlanta - Kelly Jennings, Miami 49 - Dallas - Pat Watkins, FSU 50 - San Diego - Jonathan Joseph, South Carolina 52 - New England - Cedric Griffin, Texas

It certainly makes them more talented, but I don't know if they really needed him. They are already lefty heavy as it is and giving up Tejeda for someone who is going to scrap for ABs with Victorino is pretty hefty. Something that I am wondering about now, though, is if either Rowand's hand or Burrell's foot is going to be a lingering issue and they felt they needed some insurance in case Delluci or Victorino is pressed into a starting role. And only one more pitcher is needed for Texas to get a complete set of Ex-Phils.

The Moulds to Eagles thing is hardly concrete. It was mostly stirred up this time by a report that McNabb and Moulds were talking and then Moulds' agent was on local sports radio. If anything, I think this works against a moulds/Eagles marriage as that is not the way the Eagles FO likes to operate.

I saw a decent point brought up about Moulds today that makes me think I underestimated him somewhat: w/ Kelly Holcomb at QB: 7 games, 54 catches, 588 yards, 4TDs w/ J.P. Losman: 8 games, 27 catches, 228 yards, 0 TDs That looks like enough of a pattern to take into consideration. While I don't think he is a stud anymore, he still might be able to be a nice contributor and create a real nice setup with Brown/Gaffney/Pinkston. If they want him (big if there) I could see them giving him a big number this year to pacify the ego (since they have plenty of room to spare), while setting up for a very small cap number next year. I couldn't see any more than a two year deal, maybe a three with a phantom third year. And giving up a 4th would be a no-brainer. They have enough projects on the roster and are running out of roster spots. I like the idea of using one 4th to get Moulds, then using other two to move up into the third, since they got another 5th and a 6th today those will be the filler picks.

I do blame it mostly on his inexperience. At those speeds it isn't freezing as much as slower reactions where a half second seperates the veterans from the rookies. If you watch Scott Sharp's in car camera (was side by side with Dana coming into the turn), Sharp slows right away and it only takes a half second to a second for Dana to be in no man's land. I also wouldn't put it past an inexperienced driver to hear "go low" and treat it like a yellow light where he tries to beat the hole closing instead of just stopping short.

teke, if you are going to be around the day before and CV is as well, it is fine to start it early. We can start without starting the clock and everyone else being around. Still a few teams to fill: Dolphins – Harley Chicago – AoO Minnesota – open Oakland – Sass Indy – 4hartthreat

I'd love to see the NFL send them on a barnstorming tour of Minnesota for their preseason schedule.

The poison pills in that deal are obvious retaliation, but the money is just silly no matter the cause.

Please someone splain to me how Nate Burleson is worth a $49 million dollar offer sheet, plus a 3rd round pick since Minnesota is not going to match. Granted only 5.25 mil is guaranteed, but no matter how it is arranged, a 49 million dollar deal is still big money. All for a guy who has cracked (barely) 1000 yards once. Christ, maybe GB will get a ransom for Walker.

I think it is unfair to say that because they were backups on a bad line then they are not worth a shot. All you can do is look at how they played when given a shot. Jackson was much better than Fraley when given the chance, Herremans played very well in his time. The weak spot was at left guard, Hicks sucked and Clarke wasn't really in enough to show much. And let's not forget they tried to spend big money on Bentley and he just wanted to go home. Hutch was given left tackle money, hard to fault anyone there and beyond that were the next tier of FAs really that much better than their internal options to spend millions on. And I disagree that they haven't improved. To this point they have signed Howard, Schobel, Gaffney, Barber and Garcia, while only losing McMahon. Even losing Runyan that still adds up to a plus, IMO. And that isn't including the fact that they are in their best drafting position in years.

They know what they are doing. The problem is that their idea of a plan and the fans idea of a plan are going to differ greatly. They loss of Runyan would not bother me because I think Todd Herremans is a starting quality OT right now and at some point you have to let a young guy sink or swim. But I know that is the minority opinion of at least the vocal fanbase right now.

It looks like they are just keeping tabs on him, but they don't have him scheduled for a visit. At this point they don't really need him and his baggage. They have a fine three receiver set in Brown/Gaffney/Pinkston and I don't see Keyshawn as a big upgrade over any of those three.

How is everyone for the standard Raw start on April 3rd? Start it at 9ish and try to knock out a chunk of picks quickly. Anyone have a different idea for starting?

I think you are along the right train of thought there, but I don't see how getting into a pissing contest would have helped anything. The real problem is that Trotter and Dawkins (especially Trotter), the more emotional leaders on the team, became friends with TO. They are the ones who should have been getting in his face if there was a problem because if TO gets pissy at them, who cares, they don't play with him. McNabb should have been the one that got to play his friend, because they needed to have the working relationship.

I imagine that 29th pick will probably be the main piece if they decide to move up to the no.2 spot for Leinart.

Given the fact it took all of two days for TO to make an ass out of himself again (the book, the rap) I think the idea he is going to change is silly. If you are one of his new teammates, how do you trust him and not just think you are just fodder for his next book?

I'm in

They apparently did by signing peterson to ridiculous money (7yrs/$54mil with 18.5 guaranteed) are the figures I saw. Don't know how official it is or anything, but that would be nuts.