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Cawthon lists Santana/Valentine, Jumping Bomb Angels/Glamour Girls, Butch Reed/Hillbilly Jim and Hart Foundation/British Bulldogs. I haven't watched myself yet, likely this weekend. Yeah I created the Primetime page for Cawthon's site, and I was only able to get an edited version of the show, and I'm not really sure if Santana vs. Valentine did air on that show or it was just thrown in on the version i had.

Can anyone post a match listing for the new 8-10-87 Primetime please? I've only seen an edited version of the show so don't know the full card. Thanks.

This is the complete listing for the WCCW DVD courtesy of www.bbfc.co.uk THE TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY OF WORLD CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING (1:33:10) (THE TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY OF WORLD CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING) (17:43) (TEXAS RASSLIN' - DUKE KEOMUKA VS. RICKY STARR - "2 OUT OF 3 FALLS") (23:38 ) (FRITZ VON ERICH RETIREMENT SHOW AT TEXAS STADIUM 6/4/82 - FRITZ VON ERICH VS. KING KONG BUNDY - AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) (10:57) (WCCW STAR WARS - 12/25/82 - KERRY VON ERICH VS. RIC FLAIR - "STEEL CAGE MATCH" - WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) (34:21) (WCCW - 5/18/83 - "ICEMAN" KING PARSONS KEVIN & DAVID VON ERICH VS. THE FREEBIRDS - KEVIN VON ERICH ALTERNATE COMMENTARY) (15:28 ) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - FRITZ KEVIN & MIKE VON ERICH VS. THE FREEBIRDS - "6 MAN TAG TITLE MATCH") (12:58 ) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - "GENTLEMAN" CHRIS ADAMS & SUNSHINE VS. "GORGEOUS" JIMMY GARVIN & PREVIOUS - "MIX TAG MATCH") (6:54) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - THE GREAT KABUKI VS. KAMALA) (9:29) (WCCW PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/5/85 - FANTASTICS VS. MIDNIGHT EXPRESS - AMERICAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP) (13:36) (WCCW - 7/12/85 - KEVIN VON ERICH VS. "GENTLEMAN" CHRIS ADAMS - KEVIN VON ERICH ALTERNATE COMMENTARY) (12:20) (WCCW - 10/26/86 - BRUISER BRODY & THE MISSING LINK VS. ONE MAN GANG & RICK RUDE) (11:30) (3RD COTTON BOWL EXTRAVAGANZA - 10/12/86 - BRUISER BRODY VS. ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER - "STEEL CAGE MATCH") (5:23) (3RD COTTON BOWL EXTRAVAGANZA - 10/12/86 - BRUISER BRODY VS. ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER - "STEEL CAGE MATCH") (7:13) (STAR WARS OF WRESTLING - JUNE 1983 - "ICEMAN" KING PARSONS VS. BUDDY ROBERTS - "HAIR MATCH") (9:52) (TEA FOR TWO) (3:06) (JIMMY GARVIN & SUNSHINE WORK AS DAVID VON ERICH'S FARMHANDS - 7/21/83) (6:35) (SUNSHINE'S ASSISTANT - 6/29/83) (3:05) (FREEBIRDS PROMO ON VON ERICHS - 2/3/84) (3:57) (FREEBIRDS AT HOME - 4/23/84) (4:54) (MICHAEL HAYES - "BAD STREET USA" MUSIC VIDEO) (4:24) (GINO HERNANDEZ AT THE AIRPORT - APRIL 1984) (2:43) (CHRIS ADAMS & GINO HERNANDEZ CAR DEALERSHIP - 4/7/85) (2:52) ("ICEMAN" KING PARSONS VIGNETTE) (1:30) (INTERVIEW - MICHAEL HAYES - THE GREAT KABUKI) (0:47) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - SUNSHINE IN ISRAEL) (0:40) (BILL IRWIN - INTERVIEW - FRITZ DOES BILL IRWIN A FAVOUR) (1:42) (KEVIN VON ERICH - INTERVIEW - WATCHING DAD WRESTLE) (1:10) (DORY FUNK JR. - INTERVIEW - FRITZ VON ERICH VS. DORY FUNK SR.) (2:11) (DVD EASTER EGG - KEVIN VON ERICH - INTERVIEW - WCCW LOGO) (0:25) (INTERVIEW - GARY HART - AIRPLANE CRASH) (6:19) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - THE BOBO BRAZIL KICK) (1:31) (INTERVIEW - JIMMY GARVIN - KEVIN VON ERICH PULLS HIS OWN TOOTH OUT) (2:21) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - CONCUSSION) (5:25) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - SURVIVOR) (1:25) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - HOW WCCW WAS NAMED) (1:20) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - BUDDY ROBERTS - "FRITZ WAS THE FIRST PERSON I SAW WRESTLE ON TV") (0:36) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - JIMMY GARVIN - BEING DAVID'S SERVANT) (0:54) (KERRY'S KORNER - 6/27/87) (2:00) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - WHY I WRESTLE BAREFOOT) (0:35)

That's not true - watch this Steamboat match from 91 I put on Youtube and listen to the commentary - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5WYDCYy6i7M

I just got some WWF All American shows from 93 and they show about a 5-minute clip of the Bret-Shawn ladder match to hype the release of the Smack Em Whack Em tape coming out that week. I think All American was drawling low 2.0 rating by that point so a fair amount of people will have seen it. Also in fairness to Lawler forgetting stuff, he says in his book that he has a terrible memory, one thing I remember is he said he could never recall wrestling Mick Foley before and then was shown footage of their KOTR 97 match and that was the only way he remembered it.

The Rockers beating the Hart Foundation in 1990 to become Tag Team Champions (rare clip from Action Zone in 95) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlhCt0N9Fc

Total Wrestlecrap so I had to put this on Youtube - Virgil's older sister -- Virgilina! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=obkS-IszSCQ

The Prime Time they are showing is really good and it's a 3-hour special. And the 6/10/89 Nassau Coliseum has one of the worst matches I've ever seen - Andre the Giant vs Hillbilly Jim but to make up for it there is a real good Rockers-Rougeaus match on this show

Everything that's coming up in July is now on the Sunflower site: http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/cable/on...ng/?network=wwe

I'm pretty sure he did the Main Event preshow for Slamboree 1995, but that was with Eric Bischoff and Dusty Rhodes. I don't know if he did the Slamboree pre-show but he definitely the Main Event show before the 8/95 Clash of Champions (the Main Event show had the Hogan-Kamala match)

I've just put this on Youtube - this was the Hardys first match as a tag team to air on WWF TV, against the New Rockers on Superstars 6-1-96. I've also put up a Bundy/Jeff Hardy squash from 12-11-94 if you look on my profile page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ziqNNEUf8A

Jim Ross tells a story about Mr Perfect Curt Hennig (this is hilarious) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmapoKYHl_k

Howard Finkel heel promo from 1993! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjSIVkw1qGg This is from USWA 1993

Some WWF 1993 stuff I've put up: Papa Shango vs Kamala Kamala vs Bam Bam Bigelow Beverly Brothers vs El Matador & Virgil Doink vs Marty Jannetty Part 01 Doink vs Marty Jannetty Part 02 Doink & Money Inc vs Steiner Brothers & Tatanka Part 01 Doink & Money Inc vs Steiner Brothers & Tatanka Part 02 Yokozuna vs Kamala And there's a bunch more if you click on my profile link

I've just uploaded this match, and this is EXTREMELY RARE and was never televised in the U.S: Hulk Hogan & Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage & Honky Tonk Man (from January 5, 1987) Part 01 Part 02

If they show the next episode (which I guess they will) then you'll be glad to know Heenan is back and the Fuji / Muraco Stand Up Comedy segment from TNT is also shown

Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I haven't seen it: These are the extras for the Survivor Series 2006 dvd (from Silvervision.co.uk) Mr. McMahon Cartoon – “Thanksgiving Ass-erole” Lita Farewell Interview Survivor Series - 11/26/87 – Main Event Hulk Hogan, Bam Bam Bigelow, Don Muraco, Ken Patera, and Paul Orndorff vs. Andre the Giant, One Man Gang, King Kong Bundy, Rick Rude, Butch Reed

The Piper DVD has been classified in the UK here ( http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.n...1F?OpenDocument ) - revealing some new extras of which Piper's Pits are included: - MSG 3/17/85 with Mr. T (and all the other participants in the first WrestleMania main event) - Prime Time Wrestling 11/5/85 which is the Piper's Pit with Bruno Sammartino from MSG - Superstars 10/18/86 with Jimmy Hart - Superstars 11/8/86 with Harley Race & Bobby Heenan - Superstars 11/15/86 with Hulk Hogan - Superstars 3/14/87 with Hulk Hogan - Superstars 3/28/87 (the original final Piper's Pit) - WrestleMania V with Brother Love & Morton Downey Jr. - I think 4 of the Piper's Pit from Piper's return in 2003 (1 is with Mr. America and the debut of Zach Gowen, and another is with Eddie Guerrero & Tajiri) - One from Raw 7/11/05 (I don't recall who this was with) and the one from the Homecoming episode of Raw - With Great Khali & Daivari from June of this year - And finaly the very first Piper's Pit taped on 1/24/84 where Piper takes over the Victory Corner set There's also some other segments from TNT, Prime Time and other talking segment, one is a story about Burt Reynolds at WrestleMania X

This is the last one I'm doing as I'm not gonna have time at all to do anymore. There's a lot of stuff covered here by Dave. 9/7/87 Long-time Houston wrestling personality Paul Boesch had a farewell show in his honor on 8/28 before a sellout of 10,000 at the Houston Coliseum. It was a unique card, not only in that six non-WWF wrestlers worked the show, but also that Titan brought in literally dozens of former wrestling greats to Houston to attend Boesch's farewell card as promoter. Some of the mat world notables in attendance included Lou Thesz, Gene Kiniski, Verne Gagne, Jose Lothario, Ernie Ladd, Tiger Conway Sr., (who got a big reaction), Red Bastein, Billy Red Lyons, Jack Tunney, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson, Sputnik Monroe, Bronko Lubich, Boris Malenko, Nick & Jerry Kozak, Cyclone Anaya (also got a big reaction), Mike Mazurki, Danny McShane (another one who got a huge reaction), Stu Hart, Jesse James, Jim Casey, Ox Anderson and probably several others I apologize for leaving out. It came off like a big event should have and the crowd seemed to enjoy the trips down memory lane every bit as much as most of the matches. Vice President George Bush even sent a congratulatory telegram to Boesch, commending him for his 55 years in the pro-wrestling industry. I've got several comments to make regarding comparisons between the two leading wrestling companies in this country, Titan Sports, and Jim Crockett promotions. After seeing several different types of Titan shows (a small-town spot show, a major TV taping and a heavily-hyped "greatest card in Houston wrestling" type Supercard) within a week, and also with all the JCP shows I've seen the past few weeks, the two groups seem to be almost like night and day. I really don't believe the two are in as much competition for the same fans as many would believe. They attract a very different type of audience and their live shows are totally different both in product and atmosphere. As most of you know, there are things I both like and dislike about both groups and if anything, those same positives and negatives are more obvious to me now than ever before. When it comes to the product between the ropes--the matches themselves--there is no comparison between the groups. Now there are exceptions to what I'm saying, obviously Ted DiBiase is as good as any JCP wrestler technically, he doesn't miss moves, blow up; etc. At the same time, Bugsy McGraw or Jimmy Valiant are worse than all but the Outhouse Jacks and the Junkfood Dogs of the Titan world (and yes, those two are worse than Valiant). But by and large, the JCP wrestlers have more intense battles, miss much fewer moves, are more competent as workers and work a whole lot harder in the ring than their Titan counterparts. I was really amazed in Houston as how many wrestlers, working a much slower pace than I was used to from the JCP guys, still were breathing heavy just five minutes into the match. Lex Luger may be the exception to the rule with JCP, but there are plenty of Titan guys in worse cardiovascular shape. Aside from the matches themselves, Titan's advantages over JCP are so obvious that to borrow an overused cliché, Ray Charles could see them. The Titan shows, whether they be in a small town or a major city, come off to the fans as very professional, major league and organized. The crowd is different in that they are generally better behaved, and for the most part ignorant of the wrestling aspect anyway. For someone with only a slight bit of interest in wrestling, the Titan shows would be far more appealing and for an upbeat atmosphere, they are well above the competition. I saw three Titan shows this week, a spot card in Santa Cruz which had almost no bumps and even fewer high spots, but the crowd was into the personalities and it was even a fun show even though the matches were terrible--until the Hart Foundation/Rougeaus match which was so dreadful I felt like I was watching four guys named Larry Zbyszko. The TV tapings in San Francisco--as a fan in the arena--was a bad show. I've already received literally dozens of letters and phone calls on how bad that was--basically by the third hour, the crowd was drained and most of the sellout crowd of 14,700 came to see Hulk Hogan and sine they didn't know for the most part, that three television shows and an MTV video were being taped, many felt "used." Houston on 8/28, as I said before, came off very well and the crowd seemed to enjoy it a great deal, even though the matches weren't that good. One thing Houston showed me, however, is since they were taping TV 9either for local use or for Prime Time Wrestling, not sure), the wrestlers all worked hard. However, for the most part, even when these guys work, most of them aren't of the calibre of wrestlers--or even near that calibre--that their competition is. Back to the TV taping, however, I don't know how much Titan spends per taping (I wouldn't be surprised at all if the figure exceeds $100,000) but it is so professionally done and first class that from the casual fans' eyes, its glitter, production values, well-timed entrances, distractions from the bad matches (with those interviews insets), short matches so most attention is directed at the entrance, etc. makes it appear totally superior to its competition. That, along with better marketing explains why Titan is No. 1 by such as great deal. The fact is that most markets (and there are exceptions, for the most part any market that was real "hot" for action wrestling for example), the quality of the matches themselves do not bring the fans back--it is whether or not the atmosphere is upbeat and Titan's atmosphere at two of the three shows I saw was very upbeat. It is far more important to get the babyfaces hand raised in the main event than to have tons of great working matches… 8/28 at Sam Houston Coliseum - "Paul Boesch's final show": 1. Sam Houston pinned Steve Lombardi with a bulldog headlock in 14:00. Houston got a great reception and seemed to be enjoying himself. Lombardi isn't the best type of foe for Houston because Houston is into taking wild bumps and Lombardi's offense is mainly traditional face-rakes and stomps. Good for a Titan opener. ** 2. Bruno Sammartino downed Hercules Hernandez in 6:00 via count out. Very little reaction to this match, both guys got tired real fast and there were lots of restholds for such a short match. Bruno still has very quick hands when he throws his flurries, but unless you are in the Northeast where he is legendary, Bruno came off as a slow old man and I hated seeing it because of Bruno aura. Hernandez tried to make Bruno look good but didn't succeed. Bruno backdropped Hernandez over the top ropes and when Herc got to the apron, Bruno knocked him off (count was eight) and the ref just continued to count to 10 ruling it a COR. ¼ * Andre the Giant was introduced to the crowd after this match and was heavily booed. Andre walked one-third of the way down the aisle, then stormed back to the dressing room. Word I get is Andre will probably be back in action in around three months. He's lost weight and seems in a lot better shape now after his back operation that he's been in a few years. 3. Brutus Beefcake downed Johnny V in the hair vs. hair match with the sleeper in 7:30. Both guys tried their best but they don't have it. After the match Brutus shaved JV almost bald (and they finished the job in the dressing room). ½ * (just for the haircut, match was a dud)--I should note that Beefcake got a good reception but no heat at all for this match until the haircut. Ted DiBiase then did an interview doing his Million Dollar Man gimmick. Ted was cheered by a lot and booed by even more. He then brought out a young kid to sing "Yellow Rose of Texas" after a monologue insulting the Houston economy which was very well done. He wouldn't pay the kid the $300 he promised which got tremendous heat. Actually this routine was better than any match on the card and Ted became super-heel after that was over. 4. Tom Prichard pinned Mark Lewin in 4:00 with an enziguri kick. It was all action for the time but the crowd wasn't into it. They both worked very hard while they were out there. * 5. Hulk Hogan pinned One Man Gang in 9:00 with the dreaded legdrop after a bodyslam, typical big man match. Hogan, who got as much sustained heat as anyone I've ever seen, failed to slam gang early so Gang pounded him. Hogan made a comeback till Slick distracted him (Slick was very good at ringside when they were in rest holds) and Gang blindsided him. The next comeback was the slam and the legdrop. Bout was probably 25% restholds, maybe more. Hogan took several bumps. The reaction to the post-match posing was deafening. *** 6. Sherri Martel pinned Fabulous Moolah in 10:00 to keep the women's title. Moolah looked real good here, believe it or not. The crowd cheered Martel even though Moolah was playing babyface. Better than I expected but the finish was totally messed up. I don't know what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it. They kind of screwed up a move, Sherri tried to figure out what to do and I guess Moolah just laid down and said to cover her but it was bad. ** 7. Junkfood Dog (final tabulations on keeping Junkfood's name were 117-to-19 in favor) & Tony Atlas beat Kamala & Sika when Junkfood reversed a bodyslam and pinned Sika in 4:00. Words can't describe JFD now--he makes Valiant look like DiBiase. He was in 90 seconds and blew up as bad as Mr. T in the final moments of the boxing match. I thought he'd almost have to be hospitalized from exhaustion it was so bad. Kamala wanted to leapfrog JFD but he forgot to duck and Kamala nearly killed him. –* ½ (that's negative one-and-a-half) 8. Terry Funk pinned Chavo Guerrero with an inside cradle in 7:00, great performance by Funk although there wasn't that much wrestling. Chavo mainly did the savate kicks and Funk sold like crazy for them. Finish saw Chavo do his swan-dive move and shockingly Funk kicked out at two and cradled Chavo, amazing to see an NWA semi-regular pin a Titan guy in the middle of the ring on a Titan card. ** ¾ All the ex-wrestlers were then introduced to the crowd by Titan's Howard Finkel (who seemed genuinely excited about doing this). Malenko was intro'd as being from Russia. Most got nice hands. Verne wasn't intro'd as being a former World champion although both Kiniski and Thesz were. Boesch then came out and gave a retirement speech thanking all the fans. 9. Ted DiBiase pinned Jim Duggan after an elbow drop off the middle ropes in 8:30. Both guys got incredible reactions--Duggan was cheered almost as much as Hogan. Unfortunately, Duggan fell victim to another series of bad luck. They started out tremendously for about 2:00, working the same style which made their series feud of the year a few years back. However Duggan appeared to weigh about 310 and hasn't wrestled in more than three months and blew up faster than expected. Didn't matter because he was in with the best guy in Titan who carried him and made him look good, actually Duggan was spent after the first minute. A few minutes later, Duggan's left hamstring went out and with a guy as tough as Duggan when you see the tremendous combination of anguish and pain on his face, you knew it was bad. He couldn't stand up so DiBiase had to end it quickly. The crowd had never seen Duggan pinned clean-cut before and was shocked. Not a good performance at all in Jim's attempt to get his job back although it was better than average as a match because of Ted. ** ½ 10. Tito Santana (with a new haircut and outfit to make him look like a Tom Zenk clone) & Mil Mascaras (managed by Jose Lothario--by the way--Ernie Ladd managed Junkfood & Atlas earlier) beat Demolition via DQ in 9:00. This match had the best pacing of the night but was marred by lots of messed up moves because Mascaras doesn't work well with his opponents. Finish saw Fuji trip Tito for the DQ. 90 seconds earlier Tito came off the ropes and stumbled, trying to trip except Fuji was asleep at the wheel which made the finish look bad. At one point Darsow pulled a shoot move (leg trip take-down) on Mascaras out of nowhere which was funny to watch ** ¼ The Bam Bam Bigelow thing finally took place 8/26 in Fresno at the Superstars of Wrestling taping (the reason the Superstars was taped in Fresno, not at the Cow Palace as originally scheduled was because the Fresno building was much nicer looking for TV purposes). Slick was out with Nikolai Volkoff, crowing about how he signed Bigelow. Bigelow shows up, then denies it and brings out Captain Oliver Humperdink (no, they don't really call him Capt. Oliver) as his new manager and later in the tapings, a grudge match with Volkoff is signed and Bigelow squashes him. Fresno taping drew a sellout 9,000 and $99,000 while the Cow Palace on 8/25 drew a sellout 14,700 (probably in the 13,200 range for paid) and $156,000 which is phenomenal for a Tuesday night at the Cow Palace… Several MTV videos have been taped this past week. They taped a Koko B. Ware video to the song "Piledriver" with him lip-synching and doing two takes (and being booed heavily while doing so) at the Cow Palace. It should look okay on TV but they'll have to sweeten the crowd noise. About 200 fans in front were jumping up and down like a rock concert but the rest of the arena was booing. Koko's match with Barry Horowitz early in the show was also taped for the video with Barry mainly taking bumps (including a tremendous dropkick in the finishing sequence which I'm sure will make the video) and before fans even arrived, they were taping Koko piledriving Horowitz on stained glass which will also be in the video. One 8/26 in San Francisco they taped another video at Embarcadero Center which I believe is a group video like the one they did for the last album. Not too many folks know this, but Koko used to sing in a black gospel band--a four part vocal group and Ware has a good voice (at least, I'm told, when you compare him to Michael Hayes or Ricky Morton for sure. The Fresno tapings also contained tons of hype directed toward the album… 8/25 taping in San Francisco: 1. Demolition beat George Steele & Billy Jack Haynes (taped for Prime Time Wrestling) in 8:00 when Fuji hit Haynes with the cane--this was the best match on the card; 2. Koko pinned Horowitz in the video match; 3. First hour of taping began with Honkytonk Man pinning Jerry Monti; Martel & Santana beat Lombardi & Terry Gibbs--Martel looked good in everything he did; 5. One Man Gang pinned Billy Anderson; 6. Paul Orndorff beat Rex Farmer (I believe he's the son of former wrestler Woody Farmer); 7. Brutus Beefcake (great reaction) put Mark Starr (not the one from Memphis, I believe this is a guy from Southern California) to sleep and gave him a haircut; 8. Islanders beat Steve Gatorwolf & Jesse Cortez; 9. In a taped for Prime Time match, Beefcake beat Danny Davis via DQ for Jimmy Hart interfering. 12:00 of an unmerciful dud; 10. In a dark match, Billy Jack Haynes pinned his old buddy, the debuting Rip Oliver from Oregon in 4:30 with a backslide; 11. The second hour began with Billy Graham pinning Tim Patterson. The entrance lasted longer than the match. The music got a reaction, but still no heat and long concession lines; 12. Demolition beat Ricky Ataki & Pete Ketchum. The Japanese jobber took three great bumps. This was the second best match of the night even though it went 2:50 and was a squash; 13. Jake Roberts DDT'd Mike Sharpe. No heat at all, half because Jake seemed to be way below par (injuries probably) and the other half because crowd was burned out and wanting to see nothing but Hogan; 14. DiBiase pinned Lanny Poffo in 3:00. Ted isn't over at all here. No cheers but very few boos and lots of people going back to the concession stand. Ted is now billed from Hyannis Port, MA and uses the spinning toe hold as a finisher. Since nobody submits in "real" matches these days, that's a dumb finisher. DiBiase was technically heads and shoulders above everyone else but Losing Lanny was no help; 15. Hart Foundation & Danny Davis beat Sivi Afi & Scott Casey & Carl Schmidt. The Harts slingshotted Davis onto Schmitz, all six were asleep here except Davis who just isn't any good; 16. Don Muraco pinned Bob Orton in a 4:00 grudge match taped for Prime Time. Orton used the ropes for a pin, got caught then Muraco pinned him using the ropes. Looked sloppy, the pace was so slow it makes Harley Race seem like Takada but Orton at least was decent; Koko then did his lip-synch act twice and was booed pretty hard; 18. Third hour began with the Killer Zzzzs beating Shadows; 19. Khan destroyed Darryl Nickel in a legit negative three star match. Nickel couldn't even walk; 20. Muraco pinned Chung Lee, at least Tiger tried; 21. The Heenan Family (Rick Rude-Bundy-Race-Hercules) beat Brady Boone & S.D. Jones & Dusty Wolfe & Rudy Diamond when Bundy pinned Diamond. Boone & Jones never tagged in, Rude did most of the work and his physique did look better than Hercules. Fans didn't react to Rude at all although the spotlight was on him--more so because fans were burned out. I think Rude will do better here than I originally thought, but at best he's on the Hernandez level as an attraction and really below Hernandez who got some title shots that drew; 22. Randy Savage (who got a big pop) pinned Omar Atlas after several elbows off the top rope. Nobody booed Savage, but Atlas thought he was the babyface so everything in this match was screwed up except the finishing elbows, very poor; 23. Butch Reed pinned Jerry Allen to end the third hour; 24. Hogan beat Khan… The Rougeaus apparently won the WWF tag belts on 8/10 in Montreal from the Hart Foundation but the decision was "reversed by Jack Tunney" the next day because they got the megaphone and used it to win and also because they pinned the illegal man in the ring… Corporal Kirchner may be returning in about a month but strictly as a jobber… Dynamite Kid will also return in a few weeks and is claiming that he'll have made a full recovery by then… 8/29 in Baltimore before 11,000 saw Bruno & Hulk team up for the first time to beat Bundy & Gang when Hogan pinned Bundy. Bruno was in the ring very little and Hulk had to carry things. Bundy didn't do much either. They are going to run that same tag match in two or three other Northeast cities over the next six weeks. This was the first time ever than Sammartino & Hogan had teamed. Also on the show, Santana pinned Hernandez, Junkfood beat Kamala via DQ, DiBiase went to a 20:00 draw with Beefcake (most of the match was stalling) and Sensational Sherri beat Moolah… 8/23 in Santa Cruz before 1,500 saw Houston pin Chung Lee good), Bigelow pined Terry Gibbs (so-so), Outhouse & S.D. Jones beat Shadows (embarrassing), Steele beat Davis via count out (they didn't touch for 6:00, then 30 seconds later Davis did a walk-out, but crowd didn't seem to be mad at all--I wasn't either, I was just glad it was over), Beefcake beat Khan via DQ for a low blow (they tried and Beefcake was over in a big way) and Harts beat Rougeaus (awful as far as action although Bret & Neidhart did a few decent clowning--I mean no bumps, no high spots, just a few good faces being made and that gets old fast).

These are the other extras on the Pillman DVD: 00:00:54:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - STONE COLD: FIRST MEETING) 00:01:46:22 (PILLMAN STORIES - STONE COLD: HOW TO REMEMBER BRIAN) 00:02:16:24 (PILLMAN STORIES - BISCHOFF: PILLMAN LIVING THE CHARACTER) 00:02:42:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - JIM ROSS: NAPTE CONVENTION CENTER IN VEGAS) 00:01:42:00 (PILLMAN STORIES - JIM ROSS: PILLMAN GETS JR TO LOOK AT TURD) 00:00:59:04 (PILLMAN STORIES - BILL CUNNINGHAM: TRIBUTE SHOW FOR BRIAN) 00:00:40:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - MICK FOLEY: FIRST MATCH W/ BRIAN) 00:01:31:21 (PILLMAN EXTRA - CALGARY STAMPEDE WRESTLING - 3/26/88 - BAD COMPANY PROMO) 00:06:23:19 (PILLMAN EXTRA - PILLMAN'S XXX FILES) 00:06:41:23 (PILLMAN EXTRA - RAW 183 - 11/4/96 - THE GUN INCIDENT) 00:04:29:13 (PILLMAN EXTRA - WCW SATURDAY NIGHT - 6/5/93 - FLARE FOR THE OLD) 00:04:23:08 (PILLMAN EXTRA - FLYIN' BRIAN - UP CLOSE)

Heenan did commentary with Craig DeGeorge and Johnny Valentine. Wonder when they taped THAT commentary... Anyways, yes, Jesse Ventura is in there. Something that they did which was pretty neat is indicate who is commentating the match for each match. BTW, no matches are clipped, but Sammartino-Kowalski, Graham-Backlund, and Backlund-Valentine are all joined in progress. They just used the exact same footage from the History of WWF Title tape they released back in 87 - which is why I think all the other matches you listed were joined in progress as well, they just rehashed the old footage from that tape. Although I've heard a few people say that the Backlund-Graham title change doesn't exist anywhere in complete form, not even in WWE's archives.

This is possibly the last set of notes for a while as I'm going on holiday on Thursday for a week but I'll more than likely continue this when I get back. I'll go back to earlier issues from Feb-March 1987 then as well. 5/11/87: Titan held its SNME taping on 4/28 in South Bend, IN before a sell out 9,345 fans ($101,136). One interesting thing about this is that advance sales for this card were dangerously low (I heard less than 2,000 just a few days before the card) and to save the show, they added a tag match (which wasn't aired on television) with Hulk Hogan and a mystery partner, who turned out to be Ken Patera, going against Andre the Giant & Bobby Heenan (who wound up not wrestling due t his "neck injury" and was replaced by Hercules Hernandez). Titan announced the match on its local TV show the Saturday before the match, and also took out half-page ads in the local newspaper every day the last week of the card, but give them credit, they got a tremendous walk-up and sold the place out. That tag match ended with Hogan pinning Hernandez. In the matches which did air on NBC on 5/2: 1. Kamala pinned Jake Roberts in 5:00 when Kim Chee hit Jake from behind with the stick, then Kamala got the pin using the splash. After the bout Kim Chee unmasked as Honkytonk Man and he continued to beat up on Jake using the reverse neckbreaker and Jake was helped from the ring. *1/4 2. Randy Savage pinned George Steele in a lumberjack match which lasted 6:00. The best thing about this was they kept insisting that this was George's last match with Savage so I enjoyed the bout. Actually, they did a great job of distracting the attention away from the match using the lumberjacks which made it far better than a typical Savage-Steele match. Duggan did a run-in with his 2X4 before they chased him out. As usual, Steele is just horrible and Savage does about as good a job of attempting to work with him as is humanly possible. Finish saw all kinds of mayhem with the lumberjacks and Danny Davis ran in with the ring bell and hit Steele, and Savage pinned him after the elbow drop off the top ropes. Hold on to your hat--this sets up a Davis vs. Steele feud. After the match they had a battle royal with everyone brawling away until Jake Roberts comes back with the snake (and his ribs bandaged up) to chase everyone away. He then put the snake on Kim Chee (who was Steve Lombardi once again--he came to ringside for the bout with Honkytonk so fans could see Honkytonk was an "imposter" Kim Chee during the previous match. **3/4 3. Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith won two straight falls from Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart in a tag title match, but didn't get the belts because the first fall was via DQ. Dynamite looks like he weighs only about 160 now. It's really sad watching him perform now, but the guy does have guts. He even did a snap suplex on Bret. First fall was 5:00 with Dynamite only in the final 30 seconds getting double-teamed for the DQ. Second fall saw lots of diversions for 3:00 as Dynamite got pounded (to keep the audiences attention away from the fact Dynamite is still maybe 20 to 25 per cent effective). Finish saw Smith press Kid over his head and toss him onto Neidhart for the pin. Since Smith worked most of the way, it was fairly a good match. **3/4 4. Ricky Steamboat downed Hercules Hernandez via DQ in 6:00 to keep the IC title. The "story" to this match was Savage was watching a monitor from the dressing room, rooting for Steamboat to keep the title so he could win it from Steamboat. At 3:00, Hercules had the full nelson on and when it looked like Steamboat was through, Savage sprints to ringside and interferes to break the things up. As they got rid of Savage and took a commercial time-out, they restarted the thing and after Herc gave Steamboat the reverse atomic drop, Heenan gave Herc the chain and he beat on Ricky with it for the DQ. Savage then came out after the match and elbow dropped Steamboat from off the top ropes. They sure weren't making Steamboat look good here, as to the fans, he basically lost three times. Given the constraints (having to fit the match into a pre-scripted story and having only six minutes) I thought they did a pretty good job. **1/2 5. Rick Martel & Tom Zenk downed Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff n 4:00. Basically the wrestlers were just but players here to get Jim Duggan over. I don't even want to comment on what the impression its gives fans when Duggan, who supposedly bought a ticket, could run into the ring with a 2X4 twice in the same match. Martel pinned Sheik after Duggan's second run-in. *1/2… They also started building up the Andre-Hogan rematches by interviewing both men and showing clips of the near fall in the first minute of their WrestleMania match when Hogan collapsed trying the slam and they are having the heels get on the case of ref Joey Marella (who as most of you know, is the son of Gorilla Monsoon). Besides the Hogan-Andre tag match which I'm told was okay except when Andre was in (almost never), the other matches on the card saw Jerry Allen pined Lombardi and Ron Bass pin Lanny Poffo. No word on when the next SNME will air. It'll be quite interesting to see if they can maintain those huge ratings they've been getting of late without a Hogan match. A couple of personnel changes here in that Adrian Adonis and Blackjack Mulligan have departed. Adonis was fired this past Monday in London, Ontario, and from the way it was explained to me, it isn't likely he'll be asked back. I was told Titan has instituted a new dress code for their wrestlers (no, they don't have to wear dresses) in that they should arrive at the arenas in nice clothes and Adonis was flagrantly violating it. Other sources claimed he was fired for gross misbehavior (I won't argue with the first half of that) or just plain unreliability. Mulligan quit and walked out, leaving Ron Bass with nobody to wrestle. At least Brutus Beefcake has a ready-made feud set up with Johnny V--who will replace Adonis on all upcoming dates… Scott Casey is coming in next month. It would be a good idea for them to team Casey with newcomer Sam Houston as a cowboy tag team because I don't think they would try and push either of the two as individuals… I was half-right last week when I said the new prelim tag team called the Shadows was the Moondogs under masks. Actually Randy Culley, or Moondog Rex, is one of the Shadows, but the other is Jose Luis Rivera… Fans are cheering Demolition in their matches with the Islanders so there's talk that the Islanders are going to become full-fledged heels… The SNME without a Hulk Hogan match drew a 9.5 rating and 26 share on the overnights, which is down from the past three, however considering there wasn't a Hogan match, the fact the rating was still very strong has to be a good sign for Titan.. Biggest crowd of the past week was 5/1 in Nassau Coliseum where the Ricky Steamboat-Randy Savage cage mach drew a $159,207 gate and a sell out 15,275 fans. Steamboat wins these cage bouts when the door somehow opens and Savage accidentally whips Steamboat out the door… 5/2 in Boston drew 11,834 ($148,776) headlined by Hulk Hogan pinning Harley Race in 8:00 (both bled but not a good match as neither sold for the other well)… 4/25 in Buffalo drew 9,651 ($98,000) headline by Hogan beating Kamala via DQ when Kim Chee interfered and it turned out the be Honkytonk and the double-teamed Hogan. The next Buffalo show is the TV taping with Hogan & Jake vs. Kamala & Honkytonk on top… 4/30 is Oshawa, ONT drew 2,361 ($28,332 Canadian) headlined by Roma winning a Battle Royal… 4/27 in London, ONT drew 1,561 ($18,372 Canadian) as Powers-Roma beat Shadows, Demolition beat Islanders, Beefcake pinned Adonis (in his last match) and Beefcake won the Battle Royal…4/28 in Peterborough, ONT drew 2,422 (#24,064 Canadian) as Powers-Roma beat Shows, Reed beat Ware and Koko won the Battle Royal… Bulldogs vs. Harts, Rougeaus vs. Dream Team, Santana vs. Reed and Steele vs. Kamala drew 4,931 in Montreal on 4/27.

He did in 92 as the masked Super Invader, managed by Harley Race. I don't think the stint lasted too long though.

That's an urban myth, Reed was never supposed to get a shot at Steamboat on the night of the title change, it was always supposed to be Honky.

Ok here it is, Meltzer's WM3 review from the 4/6/87 Observer: To say anything but Sunday's WrestleMania show was the most impressive all-around wrestling production in history would be to deny the obvious. Everything about the show, from the hype, to the trappings, to the production of the live event itself exceeded anything we've ever seen from the business. The sellout of the Silverdome was proof of all that. I'm not going to go into attendance and money figures here because I should have a pretty complete estimate in next week's issue, but it certainly was--by a wide margin--the biggest grossing wrestling event in history, and it's a standard that will be very hard for Titan to top next year. Just a few random thoughts before running down the card itself; from the standpoint of the wrestling itself, the show was pretty good. Some were left on a bad note by the main event, which, in truth, was even worse than I expected. Even though the Andre-Hogan match was the draw, it was well known ahead of time it would be a stinker, and it succeeded in that regard. It was also easy to predict that Randy Savage and Ricky Steamboat would put on one heck of a show. Putting the Andre match on maybe in the 10th slot, and saving Piper and Savage for the final two positions would have sent the fans home on a happy note. Watching the show myself, I though it was entertaining (except for Savage, the best performer on the show may have been Jesse Ventura) but the main even left me on a sour note. 1. Rick Martel & Tom Zenk downed Bob Orton & Don Muraco in 5:38 when Martel pinned Muraco with a crossbody block as Muraco fell over Zenk. The heels always seemed a step or two too slow, and seemed to be holding the babyfaces back. But this match was all action and a good opener. My impression is Martel-Zenk have already started falling into the middle-of-the-card tag team category and if they don't give them the belts soon, they'll lose valuable momentum (it doesn't look like the title change is coming up that quickly, either). **1/2 2. Billy Jack Haynes went to a double count out with Hercules Hernandez in 7:49. The match started off at a good pace for four minutes. Hernandez really looks unhealthy and got a little tired at that point. They started working the full-nelson, which was heated as the key part of their feud. Both got it on before they fell outside the ring and Haynes kept it on while both were counted out. After the match, as Haynes was occupied by Bobby Heenan, Hercules jumped him with the chain and Haynes got some pretty good juice. Good match, but Hernandez is looking kind of stiff. **3/4 3. Hillbilly Jim & midgets Haiti Kid & Little Beaver downed King Kong Bundy & midgets Lord Littlebrook & Little Tokyo via disqualification in 4:21. Bundy bodyslammed and elbow dropped Beaver for the DQ, then the heel midgets also turned on Bundy. For what it was, it wasn't that bad. Neither of the big guys can wrestle, and two of the midgets or already eligible for social security (that's no exaggeration folks, they are in the Moolah age group). * (Only for the comedy) 4. Harley Race pinned Junkyard Dog (or Junkfood as Meltzer always calls him) in 3:22 with a belly-to-belly suplex when JYD was distracted by Bobby Heenan. Bye-bye Doggie. Fabulous Moolah replaced British pop star Samantha Fox in presenting the crown to the winner. Race took a few great bumps. Give him credit for doing the best possible with absolutely the second worst wrestler in the business. JYD has always been a bad wrestler but he is just a physical waste nowadays--totally unsalvageable. Whatever stars Race might deserve, the performance of JYD was enough to erase them. JYD hit Race with a chair afterward and stole Harley's robe. * 5. Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake downed Jacques & Raymond Rougeau. Dino Bravo looks terrible with bleached blond hair. Match only went 4:04. Beefcake accidentally hit Valentine, and then the Rougeaus did a fine maneuver where Ray held Greg while Jacques came off the top ropes with a Thesz press. As Ray covered Greg, Bravo interfered and kneedropped Ray and put Greg on top. Afterwards the heels walked out leaving Beefcake alone in the ring. Pretty much everything that happened was expected, but it looked weaker than I expected it to look. *1/2 6. Roddy Piper downed Adrian Adonis in the hair vs. hair match in 6:55. While short, this was very entertaining. Piper deserves a lot of credit for putting on a good show as less than two weeks before match-time, he electrocuted himself while touring the West Coast (I believe he touched a live wire in a hotel room while coming out of a shower). If Adonis isn't the greatest looking wrestler in history, he's surely in the top four or five, but he can still perform. They opened by trading whipping each other with Piper's belt. Jimmy Hart took a few tremendous falls. So did Adonis. The finish saw Hart trip Piper, then spray him with that blinding chemical composite known as the hideous H2O. Adonis put on the sleeper and was almost out when Amorphous Adrian let him go and turned his back on him. Brutus Beefcake (what a surprise) then revived Piper who put Adonis out with the sleeper and then Beefcake cut some of Adonis' hair. Word has it Adonis will return with a Brian Bosworth style hairdo in April. They brought some nice props (hedge trimmers) into the ring, but the hair shaver they used didn't work too well. ***1/2 7. Danny Davis & Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart downed Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith & Tito Santana. It's very sad watching a guy who in his prime was as good a worker as this decade has seen reduced to being a virtual cripple, and even sadder a chemically-stuffed cripple. The heels really took it easy on Dynamite, which hurt the match since he was in for four minutes. After that it turned into a good match with Hart and Smith in particular looking sharp, though neither had any lengthy periods in. Davis wound up pinning Smith after hitting him with a megaphone, but not until after Smith had done some nice moves. Davis wasn't in much, but he seemed out of his league working with a super-talent like Smith. **3/4. Match lasted 8:51 8. Butch Reed pinned Koko B Ware in 3:29 by reversing a crossbody block into a pin. Koko showed nothing and Reed looked terrible. Match itself was a dud although the post-match stuff where Santana ripped up Slick's clothes was okay. I'm just saddened to see what injuries have done to these former super-talents. Bluntly, Reed stinks. 1/2* (Only for the post-match antics) 9. Ricky Steamboat pinned Randy Savage in 14:35 to win the Intercontinental title. It's been almost one year (a Savage vs. Santana MSG match last April) since I've seen a WWF match of the caliber of this one. In fact, this match was better than any match on Crockett's Starrcade show last Thanksgiving. Only criticism, which isn't of the match at all, but of Steamboat's interview which started things off silly. Tons of near falls on both sides, some exceptional spots and the match built up in excitement from the beginning. When he's on, Savage is one incredible talent--the equal of anyone in this business besides Flair. After a referee bump, Savage got a false finish pin using his elbow drop. When he went for a second one, George Steele pushed him off the top rope. Steamboat quickly cradled Savage to capture the title. Savage had the advantage the majority of the match. Both guys did an excellent job in making it so that even though Savage lost, he lost none of his steam because he appeared stronger throughout the match. ****1/2 10. Honkytonk Man pinned Jake Roberts in 7:02 with a poorly executed cradle from behind when Jake went after Jimmy Hart. Finish was messed up, and it appeared Alice Cooper kind of screwed up in the post-match antics. Jake was real good here and carried the way. Honkytonk is fun, but once the bell rings he ceases to be much. **1/2 11. Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff downed B Brian Blair & Jim Brunzell via DQ in 5:45. Jim Duggan chased Volkoff early when he started singing with his 2X4. Finish saw Sheik have Brunzell in the camel clutch when Duggan ran in and hit Sheik with the 2X4 and do one of those xenophobic speeches. Duggan has been put in a tough position as he'll be in the key headline position this spring. Post-WM never draws well, and Duggan's foe is Sheik, whose drawing power burned out more than a year ago. It's going to be awfully easy for Duggan to not look good. Volkoff has nothing left, but Sheik did a few moves. Action was fine, although by this point in the show, nobody cared about it. *1/2 12. Hulk Hogan pinned Andre the Giant with a legdrop after a bodyslam in 12:00. This wasn't the worst match I ever saw, but it threatened to be at times. Hulk proved all his critics right--in that he simply can't carry a match. Andre was even worse than I expected. Now, I always heard that Gorilla Monsoon was a math teacher. Didn't he ever teach his son Joey (ref Joe Marella) how to count past nine because they were outside the ring for 90 seconds at one point and Marella never counted to 10. Everything done except the first non-slam and the final slam was poor. And little was done. -**** (that's negative four stars -- I'll have nightmares about this one--Andre just standing there not moving for minutes on end, nearly falling asleep while holding Hulk in a four minute bearhug). But who can complain--in one day this match did more business than every Buddy Rogers vs. Johnny Valentine, Pat Patterson vs. Ray Stevens, Lou Thesz vs. Karl Gotch, Ricky Steamboat vs. Ric Flair and Jack Brisco vs. Terry Funk match combined. And that's something to think about. Strictly from the wrestling standpoint, as big shows go, this doesn't rank near the top. Last year's WrestleMania, while not nearly as successful financially and in many ways a worse promotion (overuse of pseudo-celebrities, terrible commentary, usage of non-wrestlers in the ring) actually provided more good matches. The Bulldogs match with Valentine-Beefcake was almost as good as this shows Savage vs. Steamboat highlight. However the Funks match with Junkyard Dog & Santana was better than Piper-Adonis and Steamboat-Hernandez was also better than most anything else on the show. It really can't touch the Starrcade shows for action, except for possibly the '84 show. As for Texas Stadium's original show in 1984 with the Flair-Kerry Von Erich title change, while this show did not have the emotion, as a production it was infinitely better and the wrestling was much better as well.