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Jason, your lack of wrestling knowledge is amazing. I'm baffled as to why you're arguing that the WWE is better now than it was in the 1980's when you obviously have seen very little of 1980's WWF.

It wouldn't be the first time, and won't be the last time, that Vince has thrown away a money angle just for the sake of ego. Yes, it would. I don't think he sabotaged the Invasion angle, he just foolishly thought he could make it work without Nash, Hall, Hogan, Sting, etc.

Vince is a douchebag for potentially blowing a huge money-drawing angle to try to teach Lesnar a lesson.

No, not at all.

The booking to Wrestlemania was very good last year. So good that it brought me back as a viewer. Now it's just horrible. The Raw title chase is entertaining and would be more entertaining if the belt wasn't obviously going back to H. But everything else besides that is shit especially on the Smackdown side. SD is just god awful. Edit: I'm not minding the Maven heel turn. Maybe that fuck can actually become entertaining now. Doubt it but at least it's a change.

Uhhh, he's one of the best workers in the world. And he's a draw. The point of taking him back is that he'll produce great matches and draw money.

At least in that situation, Jericho and Benoit were in a different match for the PPV, so that way they got to have a tag title match too. In this case they just switched the tag titles on the show before the PPV. Why? I don't get it. It makes absolutely no sense. The whole point is to make people pay to see the faces win the titles at the PPV, but they gave it away on free TV. So now they pay to see if the faces can defend the titles. I am not sold on this logic. Same thing happened in WCW for Road Wild 97 I believe was the year--Luger won the belt from Hogan in Chicago the week before the PPV, and Hogan won the belt back at the PPV. Made no sense; the element people typically want to pay for is the chase by the face, not the heel having an automatic rematch that costs $30 less than one week after losing the title on free TV. Jason Only it worked then because the nWo had been unbeatable for so long.

Splitting her and Christian up was a fucking stupid idea.

Just there as their World champion? Yes. He was utterly inconsequential, even as World Champ. Raven was the World Champ that made ECW special. Shane was just some guy Heyman thought wasn't given a chance. Douglas was given the chance and showed why he shouldn't be given it again. -=Mike Usually, when a champion is a failure, he doesn't hold the title for a year and a half. He was injured for a huge chunk of it and should have lost it LONG before he did. Heyman had some bizarre booking choices (see the entire reign of Credible, Justin). -=Mike I'm talking his 1993-1995 reign.

Just there as their World champion? Yes. He was utterly inconsequential, even as World Champ. Raven was the World Champ that made ECW special. Shane was just some guy Heyman thought wasn't given a chance. Douglas was given the chance and showed why he shouldn't be given it again. -=Mike Usually, when a champion is a failure, he doesn't hold the title for a year and a half.

Just there as their World champion?

And because Foley had a surprise for The Rock under a black sheet. People tuned in thinking it'd be someone of note but it ended up being a clown.

Right, but a lot of casual wrestling fans like 'entertainment' and gimmicks over 60min ***** matches. ROH has storylines and ***** matches. And I don't buy that wrestling fans dislike like great wrestling matches one bit.

Yes, they would. TNA will never be a national success either. ROH at least puts out an entertaining product.

Buyrate hasn't come in yet, dude.

Probably due to Cena's return.

Dude, this is the company that employed Public Enemy, ICP and members of the Misfits among others. This is the company that would sign ECW talent (Sandman, Mikey Whipwreck) and sit them on the sidelines for months just so ECW wouldn't have them. It's a fact that they tried to bring in Sabu again in the late 90's. As stated, the reason ECW went from being profitable on a modest scale to a failure on a large scale is that Paul E. made some very bad business decisions. I think he saw the window closing on the boom, saw the constant talent raids depleting his roster, and he wanted to get in on the bonanza before it was over. It's clear that he takes a fair share of credit as the catlyst of the boom, as well he should, and he didn't want to be the odd man out in reaping the benefits. He should have just gone much slower, made the gradual national expansion as previously stated. PPV wasn't a grave mistake IMO but could have been handled better, maybe they should have waited another couple years, the video games, magazines and toys were bad moves, going to TNN was a very bad move, they just tried to do to much too soon in a market that was already flooded with product and on it's way down. The wrestling boom wasn't on it's way down in 1999. Wrestling didn't start to decline until 2001. And I believe that TNN saved ECW at least temporarily as it would've folded two years earlier had they not went on TNN. I remember reading Paul E saying that somewhere.

Agreed. Maven got buried six-feet under, and he's dead now. Nothing kills off a babyface like not being able to get the win even when he has two top guys actively helping him out over and over again. Watch for the next three Raw's to be the same as this one. Maven sucks. Who cares if he was buried? It made for a good Raw main event.

Haha, the crowd hates Maven.

It's really not surprising that he's a liberal.

But...many talk of how TNA needs to build their own stars, and Monty Brown is one of those guys. Truth is not...really. Even though to a lesser extent of the others, he's still a 'bigger company name' as most remember him from WWE.. I doubt many remember Truth from his brief, horrible stay in the WWE.

Heidenreich's the next Sid. Everything about him is Sid like.

No, not at all. It's not even any publicity either. People know wrestling exists.

Raw faces vs. Evolution and Rey/RVD vs. Dupree and Suzuki = shit Simon Dean vs. the fans was good for one week. I doubt it has staying power. Benoit vs. Edge isn't boring. Same for Kidman's feuds. I'll give you those. But I'd blame the booking for Kurt's lackluster feud that's gone on for way too long with Eddie not Kurt himself.

He should really just retire. The matches are nowhere near good enough to justify his boring-as-shit feuds anymore, and he's really not helping the company at this point. Well, who's feuds are not boring as shit in the WWE right now?