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You are a fucking moron. And you need to calm down. No need for flaming here.

It was a fluke pin and Hurricane sprinted to the back before anyone could blink. The only one put over in that match was Steve Austin for causing Rock to lose. That was just a job, not Hurricane being put over.

I love how people think Hogan put Goldberg and Rock over. Hogan did a job for Goldberg, but where were they both after that? Goldberg was stuck in the semi-main, and sometimes not even on a PPV, while Hogan was still in the main event and the focal point of virtually everything. The idea that Hogan put Rock over at WM 18 is laughable though I’m not surprised that some people either cannot or will not see through it. Hogan did the job, but where was all the focus in the post-match? It wasn’t on Rock for beating Hogan. It was on Hogan for being such a gracious and humble loser and being all respectful. Hogan did the job but once again masterfully stole the spotlight in such a way that some people still can’t see it. People are, again, confusing doing a job for someone with putting them over. They are not always the same thing. Rock did a job for Hurricane, but Hurricane wasn’t put over a lick from that. Nash did a clean job for Rey Mysterio, but I defy anyone to say that Mysterio got anything from it. Doing a job for someone that actually puts them over means they get the spotlight, they get the focus and they get elevated. It isn’t losing to someone and keeping the spotlight, staying the main focus and the winner staying on the same level they were before. Hogan’s jobs for Goldberg and Rock were classic examples; Hogan kept the spotlight, Hogan remained the focus, and neither guy got elevated from the win because of where the spotlight and focus remained.

And when they did do it with one of them, Undertaker, it was for someone that anyone with a brain knew had zero upside (Khali).

I think of those three, Austin would be the most willing to put someone over.

There's more than a touch of irony in WWE naming their next 'ECW' PPV after one of the few ECW Arena cards never to get released on video.

They used to in WWE, but after Madusa dumped her title belt in the bin on a live Nitro, they got paranoid about it happening again and so the belt stays with someone else, usually a road agent, in between events. They can still get lost from time to time, though. Edge said when he won the IC title in 99, he set it on top of the TV in his hotel room and stared at it. I'm sure they got less worried about a Madusa repeat once it became clear that WCW was somewhere nobody wanted to go anymore. The funny thing is that WWE didn't even bother doing anything as revenge when they brought back Haku while Haku was still the WCW Hardcore champion and he still had the belt.

Hoyt was over with the ringsiders because he always went to the bar and drank with them after all the shows. I don't think anyone in TNA fooled themselves into thinking Hoyt got pops from them for any other reason. Hoyt isn't that bad, but he's nothing more than midcard material at best, and that might be a stretch.

--Some more WWE DVD news. The Hogan DVD will be called the "Ultimate Anthology," The Piper DVD will be called "Born to Controversy" and the Brian Pillman DVD will be called "Loose Cannon." --The Pillman DVD will be a 95 minute documentary on his career in football, Stampede Wrestling, Hollywood Blonds, Four Horseman, ECW, car accident Hart Foundation and more. The match list is: *Bruce Hart & Brian Pillman vs. Midnight Cowboys 4/23/88 for International tag team titles *Pillman vs. Lex Luger 10/28/89 Halloween Havoc *Pillman & Tom Zenk vs. Michael Hayes & Jimmy Garvin 2/12/90 *Pillman & Austin doing "A Flare for the Old" segment on WCW TV *War Games 1991 with Pillman & Sting & Steiners vs. Four Horsemen *Pillman vs. Ricky Morton 10/27/91 *Pillman & El Gigante vs. Barry Windham & Arn Anderson 6/12/91 loser leaves town match to lead to the Yellow Dog angle *Pillman & Windham vs. Johnny Gunn & Zenk 12/26/92 *Pillman & Austin vs. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas 5/23/93 *WCW Thundercage with Pillman & Sting & Dustin Rhodes vs. Paul Orndorff & Austin & rick Rude *Pillman vs. Jushin Liger from the first mach of the very first episode of Nitro *Pillman vs. Dean Malenko 1/22/96 Nitro *Pillman vs. Eddie Guerrero 1/23/96 Clash of Champions (where Pillmans scared Bobby Heenan half to death) *Pillman vs. Austin 6/16/97 Raw *7/6/97 Calgary Stampede Hart Foundation vs. Austin & Shamrock & LOD & Goldust (I can tell you from talking to Pillman right after this match ended that this match was the personal highlight of his career) *Pillman vs. Goldust 9/7/97 *Pillman vs. Liger 2/22/92 SuperBrawl from Milwaukee These are the dates WWE has listed. I know off the top of my head the SuperBrawl was 2/29/92 so others may be off as well

--ECW last night did a 2.3 rating. And I think Jingus makes a lot of valid points, and presented them well. If you dislike what he said that much Downhome, try countering them.

The problem is that you've got someone who was on the lowest rung of the ladder on Raw going to ECW and getting what will likely be a strong push. It doesn't make ECW look that good when they get given the dregs of Raw as their 'stars'. It's almost the same with Holly. Holly might not be the worst worker in the world, but he's been midcard for so long, how does it make ECW look when someone like that gets put in ECW and pushed immediately to the top?

-Raw got a 4.1 --Funny backstage story at the Raw tapings today. Apparently the management mindset is how HHH and Michaels got the better of Hogan, apparently the joke is how HHH is bragging "I got three words for you...Suck it brother." I didn't see it that way. Looked to me that Hogan did the crotch chop and got a big rise, and HHH did the ear cupping and couldn't get close to the reaction Hogan got earlier, and it showed in his face. According to one person, Hogan punked them out and HHH, Shawn or the braintrust can't accept it.

That its more entertaining than Raw. I've had bowel movements more entertaining than Raw.

Wrestling is at it's best when you can be watching it when people come into the room and not hurry to change channel. WWE have gone so far in the other direction it's not even funny.

When the best you can say about ECW is "for WWE , it's not that bad", what does that say about the real quality of the product?

Is ECW TV not the best wrestling show on TV then?

Scotsman did one fake column purely to fool Scherer, but he had nothing to do with the real 'Willie'.

Roode is close to Scott D'Amore.

It was Van Dam.

I don't see another boom period happening while the usual suspects are around. If anyone gets hot they almost always get buried, either by design or stupidity. It's going to take a complete overhaul of the 'creative' mindset at WWE for the necessary intangibles for a wrestling boom to remain in place without being tampered with and rendered useless.

--There is a fourth disc on the upcoming Hulk Hogan DVD that will be exclusive to Walmart and to Europe: *Hulk Hogan vs. Tito Santana 3/24/80 MSG *Hulk Hogan vs. Sonny Rogers & Chuck Greenley (one of his first AWA TV appearances in the summer of 1981) *Hulk Hogan vs. Terry Funk from the Saturday Night's Main Event *Hulk Hogan vs. Harley Race from Saturday Night's Main Event *Hogan wins 1990 Royal Rumble *Hogan vs. Earthquake SummerSlam 1990 *Hulk Hogan interview on the 10/3 Raw show And the ECW PPV in December will be called the December to Dismember.

Shawn and Vince have been feuding longer than Cena and Edge. Not much longer, but since just before the new year. Maybe they'll keep it going till next year just so they can talk about the feud being epic.

Easily. Maybe not a great one, but he is a draw.

For all the good it'll do. TNA buried the X-Divison so bad with how they handled moving the Big Three out of it, that I have little faith in them being able, or willing, to turn it back into the promotion's calling card.

Why because of a few botches or because the ending? I thought the ladder match was fine except for the ending. There were more than a 'few' botches; it seemed like every other move was blown, and usually blown badly. It was a complete trainwreck of a match that you'd usually find on some Indy show in front of 50 people.