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It was a good idea to drop the angle. The "who hit austin" angle was a waste of time and was so far after the fact that I didn't give a fucking shit about it and wanted it to end. I would assume, given the brilliance of the WWE writing team, something similar would have happened with Edge. That said, they sure did fuck up his return anyways.

On the NAO and TLC: The New Age Outlaws got over due mainly to crowd participation along with being in DX - the hot group at the time. It wasn't the titles that got them over and they didn't get over the titles. If that were the case, then their post 99 run would have been successful. TLC got over because of the insane bumps. Who won or lost didn't really matter. On Lesnar Lesnars match with Benoit on Smackdown molests Ortons match with Benoit. Lesnar had a kick-ass HIAC with Taker, had good matches with Hogan and Palumbo, his match with Eddie was better than anything Orton has done (and I like Orton to a point, who's best match was against Billy Kidman FYI), and his ring work generally was better. His mat work was better, his submissions and use of submissions was better, his moves were crisper and more impressive, his range was greater, and he simply had "more tools" than Orton has and probably ever will have.

I think the NAO and TLC would have gotten equally over if they didn't have the titles. All the titles did was give them context; not add importance or status.

Agreed. The last "good" years for the tag titles IMO were 1993.

Cena showed great wrestling ability against Benoit in their aforementioned December Smackdown match. The potential is there, but his potential has remained untapped for a while now. I think both Cena and the WWE are to blame for this. The WWE has delt Cena some bad cards, but Cena -at one time- was able to bluff (to keep with the analogy, as there is no way to turn bad cards into good cards) his way to success. Cena did a lot of textbook things to get over (which was to his credit then), but it seems, he needs another volume because he has ran out of ideas (which is to his fault now - he has copied so many methods of getting over, but can't think of any of his own). In other words, it's time for Cena to stop walking the path and start making a new one.

Rebuttal: John Cena is on Smackdown, the World Champion is on RAW. Addendum: The crowd, it seems, doesn't understand his promos if he doesn't rap. His wrestling, it seems, has been uninspired since his match with Benoit back in December. His character, it seems, has grown stale and is bound to lose crowd support eventually. Despite the error, it seems, MikeSC is right.

Rebuttal: Goldberg did so little in the WWE that you could erase him from WWE history and I don't think anyone could tell the difference.

I think the Essay answers (most of) your questions. The essay is an interpretation of the brothers interpretation of various religious and mythical material - which are, themselves, interpretations. What you personally think and interpret from the bible and other works is irrelevant, you can only believe in what this person is saying or not (that is to say, that the Matrix and it's characters represent....) Personally, it whooped my ass. I think 95% of it is spot-on, with the other 5% ass pulled.

You love Angel Season 4 and that was the theme

You are an idiot. Bischoffs role in this is only to be a red herring. Hinting that HE is the one who is behind Tomko, only to turn out to be some jackass caught in the mix.

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And Dusty turns out to be Litas father*, who sent Tomko back in time before his daughter could have his grandchild. *explains Litas speech impediment.

The storyline is perfect. You have Kanes Magic vs. Tomkos Roboskills. It's the classic nature vs. technology story retold in wrestling terms.

But WHO SENT HIM?

Tomko *is* alligned with Trish Stratus. Tomko *does* have no personality. Tomko *did* have a staredown with Kane a few months ago.

I think they should have it glow in Litas belly.

I wonder if the Demon Seed inside of Lita gives her, by association and gestation, magic powers as well.

*mind blows at the complete brilliance of that idea*

Agreed - music enhances a wrestlers' personality and is a big part of the wrestling business. Generic beats and guitar riffs points out that the wrestler is, well, generic. It's a good chance to help-out newer bands and at the same time seem "cool".

We need Mirror Universe Kane. The Kane that wasn't burned as a child and that grew up with a normal life. The one who is good natured, doesn't rape women, and is bald because of his status as a Hari Krishna. The one who, ultimately, drives This Universe Kane over-the-edge and into Catatonia. This eventually leads to Mirror Universe Kane mind melding with This Universe Kane and entering his thoughts to help drive him out of his insane stupor. However, it was -of course- a ploy by This Universe Kane to trick Mirror Universe Kane to mind meld so This Universe Kane could have home field advantage and destroy Mirror Universe Kane once-and-for-all. The end has Mirror Universe Kane awaking and This Universe Kane still catatonic, but which one really won???

Of course, I do it too. I'm sure you do it as well. Everyone does it with their favourites. Hence the name. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't say "I'm being impartial here...", then you start to contradict yourself and kill your credibility and opinions worth. This board has different viewpoints that tends to balance things out - there may be more voices on one side or another - but there tend to be 2 different voices on almost every issue. In those JBL and Eddie discussions, there were different voices. There were people saying "It's just his character... it's just for cheap heat... it's been done before" and "How come there isn't any outrage at Eddie doing...". Mike, boys have penises. Rock can't touch Benoits professionalism. I like Rock; I admire his willingness to put guys over, but he's no Benoit. I don't think The Rock talks to Joe Jobber about his matches and gives him advice. Benoit does. Benoit goes out of his way to put over the younger guys and not only jobs but *puts over* clean. Orton is the perfect example of that. Rock has a tendancy to put himself over at the expense of others -whether he knows it or not - and even when he "helps" others, he just makes it worse for them. Rock outshining the guy he's trying to get over doesn't really "get them over".

Rebuttal #1: "The IWC" is a generalization, and a ridiculous one at that. Each message board has a different "personality" from the others, not-to-mention personalities within that personality. You can't even find commonalities within _this board_ to make such a statement, let alone the entire IWC. In My View, this is worse than the content of the statement because it's a hypocritical post on hypocrisy. It's an ignorant post lambasting the ignorant. However, beyond that, why would anyone want to praise those they dislike and hate-on those they like? It sort-of goes against the whole "like/dislike" thing. And, "it was his character" is just-as-bad as "it's a symbol" - he, the person, had the choice to do what he did and he paid the price for it. Rebuttal #2: Chris Benoit is more professional than The Rock. Even if he slept and subsequently stole the Bookermans wife.

Kane-the-Shapeshifter is fucking brilliant. Does his voice remain, even if he is in a completely different body (but can only be heard by the audience)? AND can he turn into objects like title belts and ring bells and JR's hat??

Right. "He's a bad person" would have summed it up better, though.

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