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So he can send Teds estate a lovely floral arrangement*. Vince is class like that. *The floral arrangement making out the WWE Scratch Logo

I'm sure he has a death pool going on Hogan and Ted Turner.

Yeah, that was tasteless of me. Too close to Christmas. Let's say July.

1 year closer to death. Hmm, we should start a pool... 03/11/2012

Anyanka rules. ... that's really all I have to say right now. And Not Fade Away smokes Apocalypse Nowish. This is coming from the guy who loves Apocalypse Nowish.

Tomorrows Monday, I was thinking about not coming on here tonight because I need my sleep. But alas... I agree on this show not being nearly as exciting - that tape delay really hurt it IMO, along with them NOT STARTING THE FIGHTS UNTIL 9 FUCKING 20! By 10 we had only seen 1 fight. I like watching PRIDEs openners, so I enjoyed the drum session... even if it went on way too long. I always enjoy seeing the fighters come out with PRIDEs music blasting. The set was HOT. I can definitely understand being unsatisfied with the main event, it's just that... I'm not. I can't really put my finger on exactly why I'm not, I just am not. I think, in the long run, this helps more than it hurts and that's what I'm looking towards. They had some excellent action in what they had, so it wasn't like Belfort/Couture where it was just 20 seconds and nothing really happened. This gave you a nice taste of what you could see in the future... granted, the finals of the biggest heavyweight tournament ever is not the place to do that. It's just... I think the fact that it is new appeals to me.

If you have Bittorrent, you can DL it at suprnova.org - I believe it is in the "other" section of TV.

The show is about the survivors of a plane crash on a deserted island. However, not everything is as it appears to be. Not the survivors, and certainly not the island. There are plenty of neat lil twists throughout the show, and once you think you have it figured out they'll turn it around on you. The pilot is 2 hours long, so it's a 2 parter.

I disagree about nothing standing out - Silva stomping the hell outta Kondo, Cro Cop killing Aleks, and Nog vs. Kharitonov stand out in my mind pretty clearly. I enjoyed tonights show, but since it had the 1 week delay I didn't have the same amount of excitement for it as I did with the UFC show. Plus, the fact that they didn't start the first fight until 9:20 PLUS re-aired everything from the pre-show hurt the hype. Quick Intro -> Long live PRIDE intro -> individual fight intro -> fight. The NAK vs. Busta was a poor choice to lead off with. It was a REALLY good fight, with Nakamura showing some really good GnP, but it went to a decision and you need to start off hot. They should have shown Cro Cop vs. Aleks first, or Silva/Kondo. The Nak did an awesome job with some excellent control in the clinch and showing some Sakuraba-like moves when Busta was on his back. Him vs. Silva in the future?? Noguiera vs. Kharitonov was dope. It's a FOTYC IMO. They just killed each other out there in an extended version of Frye/Takayama. Sergei landed some SWEET body shots and took some sick jabs to the face. Really constant action, some exciting moments on the ground (power bomb~!), which made it the fight of the night IMO. Fedor vs. Ogawa - Ogawas entrance rules! Fedors music rules! The entrances were WAAAAY longer than this fight! THIS is how you book a tournament - have the challenger take the long road, have the champ take the easy road; up hill climb. Watching Fedor let loose is the shit. Cro Cop vs. A.E. was really fun. Aleks did a good job pressing the action to Cro Cop, which is the way to beat him. However, his stand up was pretty sloppy and he slowed down when he should have kept going. The end kick was disgusting, as usual. I love the booking here, and they didn't work it. Randleman/Waterman I missed most of, but you'd think Randleman would learn how to avoid armbars by now. Silva/Kondo was awesome. I love Silva. Stomping on Faces is what's hot in 2004. That was wonderful. 6 stomps in like 6 seconds. I love Fedor/Nog. Their first fight is one of my favourite fights of all time. I couldn't tell you how many times I have watched it. This fight was better than it right up until the cut. It was really fucking good. Noguiera learned his lesson and kept Fedor close and his legs high - he tried more submissions in those 5 minutes than both the UFC and PRIDE shows this weekend. I loved how the fight was going. And then... *Cries* I wanted this fight to continue. But.. I didn't hate the ending. Now, before you start thinking I'm trying to spin this into a positive because I'm a PRIDE mark, I honestly am not mad that I didn't get a finish. For the feud, I think it's tremendous. For the tournament, obviously, it's a screw job ending, but in terms of dramatics - you know that when they lock up again the heat and excitement on that match will be insane. There was controversy, and the way they used the cameras and the announcers and the refs - it made it big. I saw the promo video in my head as it was going on and I was stoked to see _that_ fight even more than the fight tonight. To extend the feud, it was probably the best possible result because Nog was _winning_ the fight, but it wasn't clear whether he could "win" it... if that makes sense. BUT, he exposed his gameplan to Fedor, so how will both men adjust? It opens a lot more questions than before.

Here's a pic from tonights (last weeks) PRIDE show. The set was smoking and this was fucking awesome to look at. HOLOGRAMS~!

*Cries*

Ditto. There are very few shows that I watch religiously on TV now. Infact, there is just one - CSI. LOST is structured in a way that if it hooks you (and it should), then it's all you need.

I caught an episode when it first aired too and felt the exact same way. Then I saw Gina Torres as Jasmine on Angel and Nathan "God" Fillion on Buffy as Caleb, caught the 'best pilot ever' in Serenity on SPACE, and was hooked.

In one month - Wednesday, September 22nd - at 8:00, a new show will premiere on ABC called "LOST". I already downloaded it and am in love. It's hard for me to like anything new - I'm not a big fan of change. So me liking this is a reflection on how well the first episode "grabs you" and doesn't let go. I have always liked the concept of "the deserted", and this one plays it up perfectly. With a large cast of characters, some great writers, an intriguing plot and story, and a ton of potential, LOST will hopefully make for many hours on-line gushing and marking out over every little thing that happens. If this show doesn't do well, then we are all to blame for the state television is in right now. Over the next few weeks, this thread can be used for discussion for those who have seen it or those who want to see it, as-well-as familiarizing the unfamiliar with the cast and crew and characters of the show. It should be fun.

*starts clapping like a retard at AmericanDragons post*

I got Angel Season 3 for my birthday, which I LOVED...and I FINALLY got to see everything with Holtz and Connor and Wesley...Which I NEVER SAW... Oh fuck, that's like the worst time ever to miss out on Angel. I think it's the most significant series of events that bridged what happened in Season 1 and 2 with what happened in Season 4 and 5. Good lord man, how did you survive??! Dames bought Firefly and this place is still named "The SmartMarks"... gorramit, you know it should be "The JayneMarks", YOU KNOW IT.

But NO ONE did both as well. Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER. No. Hogan and/or Austin is. In terms of all around _performance_, those two have Flair beat. Austin was able to have better "peak" promos and matches, and Hogan had greater matches and was able to captivate a greater audience. If you're including Hogan, then why not Rocky? I don't see the Rock on Hogan and Austins level. Rock rode Austins wave and even though he became more successful than Austin, he didn't have the same connection with the fans that Austin had. The crowd turns so easily on the Rock, while it's incredibly hard to get them to boo Hogan or Austin. It takes a certain talent to develop that bond between fan and wrestler, Hogan and Austin did it very well. Flair did too, for that matter.

Disagreed. Though he influenced guys like Lyger, Benoit, Kikuchi, I believe Karl Gotch had greater influence as he helped train a generation of Japanese wrestlers like Inoki, Fujinami, Fujiwara, Sayama, Maeda, Matsuda, Takada etc. who all -in turn-, helped influence another generation of wrestlers. However, a case could be made for Billy Riley who helped train Dynamite Kid, Billy Robinson, and Gotch (who credits Riley for his success). Verne Gagne also helped train and mold a lot of wrestlers as-well-as Dory Funk Jr.

But NO ONE did both as well. Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER. No. Hogan and/or Austin is. In terms of all around _performance_, those two have Flair beat. Austin was able to have better "peak" promos and matches, and Hogan had greater matches and was able to captivate a greater audience.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on WWE tv on a regular basis in 6 months. Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on Vince McMahon on a regular basis in 6 months.

Rebuttal: False. It wasn't even the most underrated match on the card (Taker vs. Albert/Show).

Rebuttal: Disagreed. Benoit will be a permanent fixture in the midcard by February. He'll bounce around the mid card - upper midcard until then.

Statement: Taker's Whacky MMA Submissions will one day get over.

Rebuttal: Agreed. But not because it will have the success or memorability that Rock/Austin had, but rather, simply because stupid people will see the obvious connections of "Anti-Hero Cena" and "3rd Generational Blue Chipper Orton" and act like the whole feud can be compared.

Rebuttal: Disagreed. You don't love it. You think it's a horrible idea that has the potential to get out of hand with smartass remarks that have nothing to do with the WWE. .... STATEMENT: The WWE would be better off with no GM's.