Jobber of the Week

Yeah, God forbid it should be above the announcers match... We want to save the matches that have actual consequences until later in the program. I hope they cut that Jericho 3-man match down a bit to give the participants in the tag match some time to perform.

Ah, that's sad. Seriously, I see the stunt guys on Power Rangers doing kip-ups in uncomfortable rubber monster suits. It's not like we're talking wrestling moves or anything here. Good going, Ms. Athletic. *slow claps*

How do you botch a kip up?

Seriously, if this were 1998, Anglesault would be calling Nation Rock "suckbag." Not that I like Orton either and I'm pissed that I'm 1 for 2 now, but really... Some perspective, please.

Fucking hell. Oh well, at least we get the Evolution music again. EVOLUTION IS A CAT WITH FLEAS JUMPING TO WHATEVER HOST IT PLEASE WATCH OUT IT MIGHT CARRY A DISEASE

whooo

So far I'm 1 for 1 (we didn't do tag match) with the other people here. That said, I hope Jesus wins so I'm 2 for 2.

Evolution music = LOL. What is that guy singing anyway? EVOLUTION IS A BUNCH OF TREES SPROUTING TWIGS AND SHEDDING LEAVES DON'T GET TOO CLOSE OR YOU COULD SNEEZE

Just joined in. Someone want to tell me what the opener was?

irony noun 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm, satire, caustic remark] Whoa. If irony was Triple H, we'd all be jobbing RIGHT NOW.

He's switched to the dark side! We need more Test/Steiner matches and he'll see the light eventually!

Oh god, like SHE has anything meaningful to add.

I pulled that Carville quote about righties boycotting movies they've never seen out of my ass after reading 1 and a half pages. It sure became more profound pages later.

I suspect the one more big Angle/Lesnar match will happen at Rumble. I think the coolest fucking thing they could do is have Angle & Lesnar as 1 & 2 and have them just tearing through whatever other guys get into the ring. The "two guys having a fight and tearing the shit out of anyone else in the fight" angle is about the only one left that hasn't been done in the big 30 man toruney. They almost had it going with Jericho & Shawn but they had Chris decimate Shawn right away and thus it never happened.

That was awesome. Flair needs to do The Who impressions more often.

So, to lighten the mood around here, how about something SLANDEROUS OMG!?!? http://www.theonion.com/onion3210/christde...mandsmoney.html

Jesus is one of those things where the message is good, but if you got the wrong messanger (fundamentalists) it can backfire at you and make you hate. I think the lessons that the Bible teaches you are good. I'm a person of science however and there's not enough scientific evidence that there's a man in the sky who watches you all the time and sends you into a pit of fire and smoke and pain and suffering if he doesn't like what you do. I was brought up from preschool to grade 6 in religious private schools. Every Monday morning we'd go into the Church on the premises for bible study, which taught that every species on the planet was created in a week. Every weekday afternoon we'd do science and be taught that we were simply on the tail end of a very old planet and that long ago dinosaurs roamed the Earth, etc etc. I actually got a question wrong on a test sometime because I declared that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time. The teacher questioned me on that and I cited the Bible and asked why I got it wrong, to which she kinda mumbled, dodged the question, and walked away. That was the point where it started dawning on me that I'd eventually have to decide what conflicting information I was being given would be seen as truth, and I simply chose the one that made the most sense.

I don't like Hurricane either, but Wade and Helms have had their share of Fuck Yous to one another, so I'm not going to take a Wade report on Helms seriously. I'd believe 1Crapshit before Wade on Helms news at this point.

Well, the monster tat is in the video games. I imagine in the create a ____ mode you might be able to take a better look at it, but I kinda doubt it.

As we have seen from this thread, the religious have their numbers here and are well-represented. Their less-scrupulous peers are subject to discussion, but the religious people here are not without their voice. I think Eagan's first post was something that would get him flamed on nearly any board and the flaming is simply what happened as a result of that. Let's just move on.

Well, my heart follows what Eagan's saying (I could share my experiences with religion with the class, I guess, but I doubt you want to hear it, but we'll just say I've done a lot of deep thought about the subject) but my brain knows to be more compassionate towards others. The exception is, of course, the aforementioned political group which want to institute change in all our lives. If they are not kept in check (and let's face it, our current leadership is NOT going to do that), they must be kept under watch at least, and that's why I post as much about them as I do. It looks like Boo Bradley was running under the impression of this being a comedy thread, not realizing that religion is a can of worms out here. Eagan posts something with no tact whatsoever, and it spirals into an arguement from there.

I admit I target Christian organizations a lot, but they're usually the Jerry Falwell style "family value" organizations that play politics. FWIW, I feel these organizations deserve it as they seek power and influence the other organizations don't. But if you think I cross the line sometimes, hey, call me on it.

That would be downright slander, since you named a real person. The problem you're making is that you're basing this arguement as though Jesus, son of God, really did come down to Earth. The problem with this is the very existance of Jesus is purely dependant on your belief in Christianity. This is not a fault of yours, being a Christian pretty much means you believe the events of the Bible to more or less be truth. But faith is faith, and the Bible has no legal legs in this country. Roy Moore found this out recently. I'M NOT COMPARING YOU TO HIM IN ANY WAY, I'm just citing an example as how our government does not recognize the Bible as undeniable truth. There is a world of difference between a movie with a fictitious president and a book with a real person. Right, but there's a difference between complaining about it, protesting it, whatever, and trying to ban sales. SP isn't a fundie. I haven't called him a fundie, I don't think Marney even has called him a fundie though she has taken issues with his stance on gays. SP's problem seems to be that he acts like the world is a battle of Ultimate Good vs Ultimate Evil or something. This is not Sunday School, this is a place for (more or less, excluding comedy threads) serious debate, and that kind of thing can you crapped on.

Before people start discussing what is said about the Hurricane, let me start off by stating that it isn't inconceivable that Wade has something against him, as Helms busted the Torch's nuts for saying he was close to Brian Gewirtz some months back. So I'd take what's written that hasn't already been said with a grain of salt.

Is it labeled a documentary or political commentary or something? If it's not, and it acknowledges itself as fiction, then that's just what it is. Fiction. There was a movie called Deterrance that came out some time ago where Iraq promises to launch nuclear missiles on the U.S. The President (a ficticious President, not sharing the identity of any real life President) drops a nuclear bomb on Baghdad at the end of the film. By your analogy, if this movie came out when the Iraq stuff was heating up you'd get all offended. But you aren't because the movie admits that the events aren't real. That's what's going on here. Are you? I don't think you are. In this case, people are stating cases for the book to be pulled. I'm not going to lump you in with them unless you want to join them, too. No, I'm trying to explain how a straw man works, since there's less debating going on and more accusations of Christian-hating. Supreme Court says "No." http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/pres...ess/press08.htm Besides making distinctions between public and private figures, American courts also have ruled that various kinds of published information are generally immune from libel charges. For example, it is almost impossible for a writer to be found guilty of libel if the writing deals with opinions rather than facts. "Under the First Amendment, there is no such thing as a false idea," the Supreme Court said in a 1974 libel ruling. Religion is simply a matter of opinion. It is not subject to libel laws.