Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Season 7

[Guest LaParkaMarka]

The only way Wood is going to kill Spike is if Spike gets tapped by the First and flips out again. Wood seems like a smart guy...he wouldn't take out an ally at this point. He can always take out Spike in June, right?

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I want Spike to live. If there's going to be a spin-off I want Spike on it since he's my favorite character.

 

But I have a feeling Spike will die and Buffy will profess her love for him before he does.

[Guest Cavi]

I also see Spike dying. A few weeks ago, Marsters said he found out how the season would be ending. He thankfully didn't divulged details, but just said it is "very romantic...very heartbreaking" and that some fans might hate it.

 

I have had this little scene in my head for a while now (mind you, this isn't a spoiler or anything, as I never read those, not to mention if they have even filmed the finale yet; just something that I have thought up). Spike saves Buffy, but in doing so, he somehow has to/is forced to go out in sunlight. After doing whatever (killing the baddie, etc.), Spike would be standing there, going up in flames, while looking at Buffy with this look of contentment on his face, knowing that he proved he is a man and finally saved Buffy. Get Chris Beck to score the music, and you have some mighty emotional stuff.

[Guest raptor]

This episode is the first one this year where I was enthralled during the whole thing.

 

I for one, am happy that I have no fucking clue how they're going to win, or if they're even going to win.

 

And yes! My second favorite character (after Faith) is back! That thing last season was NOT Spike.

 

Although, as he was walking down the hall of the school I was reminded of season 4:

 

Spike: I'm back and I'm ZAP!

 

Classic stuff, that.

 

P.S.: Is anybody else getting attached to Andrew? I sure hope he doesn't die, and maybe goes with Faith to her show (I'm crossing my fingers as we speak)

[cawthon777 0]

I sure do not want to be in evil Hell place with all the uber vamps. Uber vamp does not = fun.

 

I can see Spike being killed off. However, in an article I came across a while back, Alyson Hannigan stated that both James Marsters and Nicholas Brendon were very interested in being involved in the spin-off, whatever that may be. I guess Spike could be in flashbacks or something and still remain dead.

 

Who do I expect to die? Anya.

 

But yeah, if Beck scores it - expect something very emotional. Becomming Part 2, anyone?

[Guest Madmartigan21]

Also, not enough Andrew, although they seem to rectify that next week.  His little presentation with the board was great.  "I made it myself!"

"Ummm.... where do we turn in our receipts?"

 

I'm glad that they went into a little detail about how the Slayers became the Slayers and WHY they became the Slayers. Cause the guys were chicken.

 

See, they really didN'T do that. They explained how the FIRST slayer became the slayer. They've never even approached indicating how each new slayer is chosen, how the potentials are chosen, and how in the hell the watchers could identify potentials. That's always REALLY bothered me. It seems like its some inherent thing that they've never explained. Because, Faith was called when Buffy "died" way back in season one. Even if Giles reported her "death" to the council, I doubt they would have called a new slayer knowing full well that Buffy was alive. How did Faith, or anbody else for that matter, know she was the "new" slayer?

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I'm glad that they went into a little detail about how the Slayers became the Slayers and WHY they became the Slayers. Cause the guys were chicken.

 

See, they really didN'T do that. They explained how the FIRST slayer became the slayer. They've never even approached indicating how each new slayer is chosen, how the potentials are chosen, and how in the hell the watchers could identify potentials. That's always REALLY bothered me. It seems like its some inherent thing that they've never explained. Because, Faith was called when Buffy "died" way back in season one. Even if Giles reported her "death" to the council, I doubt they would have called a new slayer knowing full well that Buffy was alive. How did Faith, or anbody else for that matter, know she was the "new" slayer?

Sorry.

 

What I should have put was I'm glad they showed where the chain started.

 

Kendra was called when Buffy died in season 1. At Faith was called when Kendra dies at the end of season 2. So the line of death is with Faith now

 

Spike: *amused* "Dru bagged a slayer?"

[Guest Madmartigan21]

I'm glad that they went into a little detail about how the Slayers became the Slayers and WHY they became the Slayers. Cause the guys were chicken.

 

See, they really didN'T do that. They explained how the FIRST slayer became the slayer. They've never even approached indicating how each new slayer is chosen, how the potentials are chosen, and how in the hell the watchers could identify potentials. That's always REALLY bothered me. It seems like its some inherent thing that they've never explained. Because, Faith was called when Buffy "died" way back in season one. Even if Giles reported her "death" to the council, I doubt they would have called a new slayer knowing full well that Buffy was alive. How did Faith, or anbody else for that matter, know she was the "new" slayer?

Sorry.

 

What I should have put was I'm glad they showed where the chain started.

 

Kendra was called when Buffy died in season 1. At Faith was called when Kendra dies at the end of season 2. So the line of death is with Faith now

 

Spike: *amused* "Dru bagged a slayer?"

WOW, I can't believe I made THAT mistake. Damn that piece of ass Peruvian chick at work for destroying my ability to concentrate.

 

It wasn't a personal attack on you. It's just that your post reminded me of the point I was trying to make. It's something that's always bothered me. They've never even ATTEMPTED to explain it.

 

If the first slayer was created by "infecting" her with a demon, where have the rest of the slayers gained their power from? This episode seemed to raise more questions about the lineage of the slayers than it answered.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

My theory is the First Slayer was not infected with the demon.

 

It was a test and if Buffy allowed the demon to enter her she would have failed the test.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

No, I think the first slayer was. Fight fire with fire and forcing responsibility on others has been two on-going themes on Buffy.

[Guest fazzle]

Bah, what a lame ending to this episode. So what if they have an army? The vamps are only 4 feet tall! They're too cute and cuddly and chibi-like to be threatening.

 

If the First doesn't have someone remove Spike's soul(like with what happened on Angel) now that he doesn't have the chip, I'm going to be pissed at this show. Evil Spike is the only Spike worth watching.

 

And if Andrew is "the brains" of the operation like Buffy says, they might as well all just take the Chloe route and off themselves now. I easily hate him more than any other Buffy character. How the hell is he suppposed to be comic relief when he's NOT FUNNY?

 

What the hell happened to this season? It started out damn good, but once Giles and the Slayerettes(that'd make a good name for a band) showed up, it's gone downhill fast.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I think you're the only one that thinks that way. I still love this season.

 

And I'm dying for Buffy to finally profess love for Spike. They've been building it for two seasons now. James Marsters has busted out the acting big time this season too much for me not to like his character and I think the last episode showed that we can still have the badass Spike.

 

I find Andrew funny.

[Guest fazzle]

If Buffy does profess her love for Spike, I hope it's the last scene of the season finale and he vamps out on her after she does. THAT would be a cool shot to end the season with.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

But Buffy doesn't love Spike, does she?

[Guest fazzle]

But Buffy doesn't love Spike, does she?

We can only hope that the writers see that as well. But they're determined in trying to make something, anything entertaining out of this joke of a "relationship."

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I always felt she started to love him at the end of season 5 and just was afraid to tell him out of fear it would end up like it did with Angel.

 

Plus I think they've come a long way and the writers have done a good job of making you feel like they've grown closer.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Yeah, but I just don't see the love. Spike is more like a convenience and a familiarity. She can relate to him but I don't believe she loves him. They could be trying a Forrest/Jenny relationship, but I dunno, it just doesn't seem right to me.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

They could be trying a Forrest/Jenny relationship, but I dunno, it just doesn't seem right to me.

I can see it now.

 

"I may not be a hu-man but I know what love is Buf-fay."

 

Yeah it seems more like Buffy just wants someone to be comfortable with more than to be in love with. That's why she said that she wasn't ready for Spike to go. Still though, Spike has been my favorite character since his debut, and I REALLY hope Joss doesn't kill him off in some suitably heroic fashion.

[cawthon777 0]

Yeah, but I just don't see the love. Spike is more like a convenience and a familiarity. She can relate to him but I don't believe she loves him. They could be trying a Forrest/Jenny relationship, but I dunno, it just doesn't seem right to me.

"I go back to mah col-lege now ... er ... I go back to mah crypt now."

 

I'm not sure what the relationship is at this point. I think Buffy is more interested in Spike because he's less interested in her (typical woman). But there's potential there. And remember what the chick from 'Help' said to Spike (the one that died and later came back as the first) - "She will tell you. Eventually, she will tell you." (paraphrased)

 

Andrew = funny. I love all the little comic book references that even I don't get - especially when Xander chimes in and it's clear he knows exactly what Andrew means. They should bring back the Death Star van; that was bloody awesome!

[Guest Steve J. Rogers]

If the First doesn't have someone remove Spike's soul(like with what happened on Angel) now that he doesn't have the chip, I'm going to be pissed at this show. Evil Spike is the only Spike worth watching.

The one thing I don't quite get is Angel still had some of the Angelus bad ass in him as Angel, his soul only tormented him with all those he had murdered and tourted through the years, it didn't make him into a whuss, his torment turned him into a whuss for about 100 years untill he met Buffy and figured he'd find redemtion by doing good and kicking evil's ass.

 

So why was Spike all whussy untill last episode? Spike wasn't "cursed" with a soul so it real shouldn't have affected the bad ass Spike with his chip

 

Steve

[Guest JMA]

I'm betting Buffy dies (again) this season.

[cawthon777 0]

The one thing I don't quite get is Angel still had some of the Angelus bad ass in him as Angel, his soul only tormented him with all those he had murdered and tourted through the years, it didn't make him into a whuss, his torment turned him into a whuss for about 100 years untill he met Buffy and figured he'd find redemtion by doing good and kicking evil's ass.

 

So why was Spike all whussy untill last episode?  Spike wasn't "cursed" with a soul so it real shouldn't have affected the bad ass Spike with his chip

 

Steve

Not sure if I get what you're saying but I don't think Spike is any less tormented by his soul. Getting rid of the chip was more of a mental boost than anything else - Buffy's believing in him and allowing his chip to be removed.

 

He was a "wuss" because 1) the chip (although he was a bad ass for several seasons even when he had it) 2) he was / is in love with Buffy and knows he can't have her and 3) dealing with his new soul. He lost the bad ass attitude last season because he was so involved with Buffy. It made him mentally weak. After she went off on him on the previous show, it kinda set him straight and challenged him to bring out the bad ass within.

[cawthon777 0]

I'm betting Buffy dies (again) this season.

Eh, that would be a cop-out (and pretty repetative). I personally think she will somehow give up her slayer powers, rather than die, and allow Faith to take over.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I can see her telling spike she loves him when he is about to die - not because its true, but becuase he deserves it.

[Guest Vyce]

I see most of the signs pointing towards Spike dying. He's a tragic hero...er, anti-hero. Things are set up perfectly for him to die, particularly in some sort of heroic act which will save the life of the woman he loves.

 

I've said this before, but I really believe that Spike is the deepest, most intriguing character on the show. Perhaps in the entire history of the show. There are so many layers to the character.

 

Poor Spike....all he's ever wanted was to be loved....

[Guest Mole]

Buffy will die at the end of the season, that is the only way to have complete 'closeure.'

 

She will profess her love to Spike, right before she dies. It will be a VERY bittersweet ending, but it ends the series right.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Buffy won't die. She's already died like a dozen times...in this last season alone... (member that time when Andrew accidently killed Buffy and had to go back in time to save her? Fabulous eps.)

[Guest El Satanico]

Buffy dying would be a lame way to end the Buffy era or whole Vampire Slayer series whichever is the case. Hell it would be the third time for her to "die" to end a season.

 

It will be some "deep and emotional" thing that finishes the Buffy era. Giving up her Slayer powers is a good guess as to what will happen to write her off.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

So why was Spike all whussy untill last episode? Spike wasn't "cursed" with a soul so it real shouldn't have affected the bad ass Spike with his chip

 

Steve

After he got the chip he couldn't do anything bad, so he had to be a wuss...and he was a wuss when he first had his soul (not a vamp), so in theory he should be a wuss with a soul again.

 

And just cause he put on an old jacket and killed a demon I'm not ready to call him the big bad again.

[Guest LaParkaMarka]

I just finished watching Season 3. I think an amusing ending would have Faith and Buffy fighting to seal the Hellmouth, and right before the seal the thing Faith guts Buffy like a carp and throws her in. It's what The Mayor would have wanted, dammit.

 

I miss the Mayor.