Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Season 7

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Hmm. How many re-runs does each ep get? It's got to either be variable for different episodes, or shown some other crazy time on UPN, because I definitely saw all OMWF and the two-part season finale this summer.

[Guest Cavi]

Every episode from last season saw a rerun, either during the actual season or over the summer (they started showing eps on Wednesday nights as well). I know a fair bit more than half of the episodes had two repeat airings because of the summer schedule. The ones that only had one repeat were mainly the last few episodes of the regular season.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Well, there's a new episode this Tuesday, Dec 17...but on Christmas Eve Dec 24 they're playing two episodes from season 6 that got left out of the FX scedual, "Normal Again" and "Villians"...from 8-10pm

[Guest Ripper]

Referring back to last page, I saw MaxDanger refer to Spike feeling the chip kick in when he speared the guy who got turned into the giant worm demon by Anya. After seeing the episode again a week or two ago I think it was, I might have seen something different. It looked to me like Spike EXPECTED to get hurt by the chip and then looked surprised as hell when nothing happened. As to feeling it again when he hit Xander, who knows? Maybe the chip is malfuctioning due to Spike's new soul? I don't know, I just hope Joss gives us some sort of explanation.

 

And yes, I'm looking foreward to seeing what the "real vampire" can do. Doesn't look like Buffy's got to worry about getting horny for him, either.

But in the episode where Cassy died, the chip was definately kicking in while he was pummeling the Home Improvement guy.

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

Every episode from last season saw a rerun, either during the actual season or over the summer (they started showing eps on Wednesday nights as well). I know a fair bit more than half of the episodes had two repeat airings because of the summer schedule. The ones that only had one repeat were mainly the last few episodes of the regular season.

 

Some eps are licensed for more than one or two runs. OMWF has been rerun twice I think, but the rights haven't reverted to FX. From what I've read, the five eps listed will be able to run on the regular FX schedule after one last run on UPN.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Hey I noticed after "Seeing Red" they went back to Season 3 and showed "Dead Man's Party" does that mean they'll show Season 3 for awhile now?

[Guest Lil Naitch]

I think they aren't licenced to run the last two (3?) episodes, so they will repeat the repeats

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

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Well I saw the preview of the new episode. They practically say the slayers in training are killed by the First Vamp...sounds like "Giles" brought them as a setup so there won't be backup slayers.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I don't know. I see it more as a way to build up the First and make Buffy more of the underdog. I mean, if 3 potential slayers can't beat it - can one? Giles reaction to it would also be integral since he generally maintains a distance from the villains.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

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Well I saw the preview of the new episode. They practically say the slayers in training are killed by the First Vamp...sounds like "Giles" brought them as a setup so there won't be backup slayers.

Sounds like a plan...I think Giles is still alive though, just out of action for the time being.

[Guest MrPhil28]

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Also in that episode, Anthony Stewart Head was specifically told not to touch anyone or anything, and vice versa. Since The First said it can't take corporeal form, I'm still thinking Giles is dead.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Well I finally finished watching my Season 2 DVD set.

 

Ya'll were right........it is the best season.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Damn LaParka...I was only a few minutes away from bumping this thread myself.

 

Season 2 of Buffy was one of the most well put together tv runs of all time, that was just some heavy stuff. And the best part is that they didn't really hold back, ie Jenny

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

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Guess who else will be in Tuesday's new episode.................Drusilla.

 

More than likely it will be a short appearance as The First taking her form, but I noticed somewhere she's credited as being on that episode.

 

Oh and after Tuesday's episode there's not another new one until January 7th.

 

The next few episodes are names: "Bring on the Night" "Showtime" and "Potential"

[Guest Special K]

I personally like Season 3 best. 2 had the best overall story arc, and a very evil Spike, but 3 had some of the best char. development, a good sense of humor, and one of the best villains ever in Trick, Faith and the Mayor.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Wow. Did anyone watch tonight's episode?

 

A damn stake didn't even kill the Super Vamp. Are the appearances of Joyce the First or not?

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Continuing the excelent episode run in season 7.

 

Who knows about Joyce...maybe it's the First Good...eh, who knows. Probably evilness.

 

I say the Principal's somehow a good guy, just cause they're hinting him as a bad guy.

 

Giles threw me off...he said that the First could only take the form of someone who's died...so was it Giles or the First? Cause I don't think Giles is dead, I think Joss would give him a better death then that.

[Guest Cavi]

*dodges spoilers*

 

Enjoyable episode. So awesome that The First incarnated itself as Dru again. I'm such a mark for Juliet Landau. So it can only take the form of dead people, eh? It can take the form of Buffy, so I'm not sure what that means. Maybe it can take the form of anybody who has ever died, or maybe this is because Buffy "came back wrong", or maybe it's something entirely different. Or I might just be looking into it too much.

 

The stuff from "Amends" (the baddie during the whole Willow bit and the tree lot) was some nice stuff for the long time fans. Ubervamp (I love that they are actually calling it that, though that doesn't surprise me they went with that name) had a few excellent moves there, especially that jump kick off of the wall.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Yeah I like the whole "it's the kind of vampire that vampires fear" thing. A vampire without humanity at all.

 

Man Buffy got bitchslapped around didn't she.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Giles...telling Buffy it's all up to her

Joyce...telling Buffy she needs to take it easy

 

Trying to confuse her from both sides...though Joyce is only in her dreams...so she might be nothing

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I liked Buffy's speech at the end. Makes it sound like they're going down in a blaze of glory this season.

 

I got my fill of Buffy tonight. "The Zeppo" and "Earshot" were on FX tonight too.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

And we have to wait three more weeks, at least, for any more resolution!

 

Talk about stalking on new twists without answering anything. Joss, how I hate and love you all at the same time.

 

The ubervamp is great, and I loved the way they used the dropped-frame editing a la Saving Private Ryan for the Buffy/Vamp fight scene. Wood seems to know a lot more than he's letting on, and I'm still thinking Watcher, but god damn if they're not pitching him as sinister. I don't even know what to think about the Slayers In Training - as Annabelle ran off and got killed, I had the weird sensation that she could be an agent of the First that got in the way of the Ubervamp accidentally. Though that's probably way off. There's sooooooooo many possibilities here.

 

But the big question, and one that still hasn't been answered: Giles.

 

Joss and co. are making no bones about reminding us what happened--reminding us that we never saw Giles die/not die/whatever. "The First can only be active through its agents"--the First itself can't touch anything, do anything.

 

Giles didn't touch anyone or pick up anything or even sit down in this entire episode.

 

But then again, it's being framed perhaps too obviously. Buffy says "we won't even know when we see it," opens the door, and there's Giles, greeted with surprisingly little pomp and circumstance, saying the wrong things. It's being framed perfectly, and this amount of forethought is unprecedented.

 

There's Andrew, who I think is way more valuable than people are giving him credit for. His "spidey-sense," his sensation that something was wrong--Andrew has worked with the First, conversed with the First. Key in, guys. Figure out that he might be worth more than you think.

 

This season has me on edge like none other. It's in full-swing already, and there are millions of questions and possibilities. We've had seasons so far where there have been hints, but never so many possibilities for speculation; there's always been a certain amount of darkness about everything going on, but now we're getting what we give. This season is rockin' the suburbs, and this is going to be one big apocalypse.

 

Between this and 24, these are gonna be a hard three weeks off to bear.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Actually Giles did sit down at one point....don't know if it was a goof up or not since there tends to be a lot of small goofs in Buffy episodes.

 

But then again the First in Spike form sat down in the basement in "Sleeper"

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Could be, and you're right about Spike form sitting. I think what's important to note is that he didn't interact with anything.

 

Man, this show is FREAKIN ME OUT.

[Guest Ripper]

Giles also made a VERY quick move to avoid running into one of the junior slayers when they were showing buffy the stuff stolen from the Watchers. But this is Joss therefore he is just being a cruel bastard to all of us who thinks we have things figured out. But if this Giles is the first, you wold think it would throw out some false information so maybe the "must be dead" thing is just a lie.

 

Did anyone else catch the mackage the american slayer was throwing on Willow...hmm...

 

I loved the sceen of Anya and Dawn trying to wake up Andrew and getting caught. Cute.

 

Yeah Andrew will be playing a big part in this.

 

I think that officially is the worse beating that Buffy ever took...EVER. Uber-vamp put the woopin on her. But there is no way that guy is the big bad. He will be taken out in a show or two.

 

Juliet Landau!!! I am a Drucilla mark so I loved watching her doing her

li-ule dance.

 

First mention of Faith. Worth noting.

 

WOW. When the worst shows of the season are "Him" and "Same Time, Same Place" (which was a MUCH better episode on the second viewing)...which are pretty good episodes in their on right, then you know you have a kick ass season going. So far...and this is for right now, it is on pace to create a new "Best season EVER" ...

[Guest Cavi]

The ubervamp is great, and I loved the way they used the dropped-frame editing a la Saving Private Ryan for the Buffy/Vamp fight scene.

Yeah, that was quite cool.

 

I agree that Ubervamp is not the Big Bad. Tonight's episode seemed like one leading up to a season finale, so it will be very interesting to see what comes about. This has been such a freakin' awesome season thus far.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Ubervamp is the one doing the Big Bad's dirtywork since it can't physically touch anything. It obviously still fears sunlight even though stakes do nothing to him. So they need to lure it out into the sunlight.

 

I think you're right. That was the worst beating Buffy ever took. She looked messed up at the end of the episode.

[Guest Cavi]

Here's a thought. Maybe Giles really is dead, but this is not The First manifested as him. This could be a sort of ghost Giles, sent back to help Buffy. He didn't seem like the regular old Rupert, but maybe he is hiding the fact that he is dead, as he doesn't want to make things even worse than they already are.

 

Nonetheless, with that being said, like Youth N Asia pointed out, I kind of have to think that Giles wouldn't go out in such an unceremonious fashion. Even if he is dead though, and if what I mentioned above does turn out to be true, they could still do a great dramatic scene as a payoff.

[cawthon777 0]

"Grrrrrrrrrufff!" - Drusilla *I mark out*

 

I'm inclined to believe that Giles is dead (This Giles is no more!), but I don't think the First would go through all the trouble of stealing helpful books from the Council, bringing the slayers-in-training to Sunnydale, and helping Buffy and the Scoobies. If he is dead, then it's a good ghost Giles instead of the First. I loved how they showed the flashback of Giles finding the dead watcher and yet cut away before the axe attack.

 

Wasn't the slayer-in-training that ran off hilarious? "Oh yeah, I'm so much better off running into a dark alley than I am surrounded by a slayer, a watcher, a witch, a demon, and a carpenter!"

 

I did notice the Faith bomb. I have to believe that this season will also involve Angel at some point since the word "armageddon" is being thrown around a lot and we all know how big a player he's supposed to be in that.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

I had that thought this thought last night too, Cavi, while discussing the episode with a couple of friends. I almost feel like that might be what's really going on, because we've never seen the First show itself to more than one person in the same form at the same time. It's probably within it's capabilities...but I rather like the Ghost Giles hypothesis. It'd be a lot more touching and a lot less "JOSS YOU BASTARD!" if that's the case when it comes down to revelation time.