Guest fazzle Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Eh, I'd put it more like: Becoming Part 2 Graduation Day Part 2 Prophecy Girl & The Gift (tie) Restless Grave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest red_file Report post Posted March 16, 2003 My ex-girlfriend said the reason she "turned gay" was because of what Oz did to her. He made her so upset, she just turned against men in general. I'd say that the fact that she's not a "man hating" lesbian would argue against that theory. Besides, when Oz came back, she still had feelings for him. Willow discovered she was gay because the writers wanted her to be gay. The question is: had Seth Green not wanted to leave the show, would she have stayed with Tara and not gone back to Oz? As for the ranking of the finales, I understand by "Becoming Pt. 2" gets the love it does, but I think that it's a weak story if you didn't enjoy the Buffy/Angel storyline. While I could understand what they were doing with Buffy/Angel, and I could even appreciate the skill with which they were doing it, the storyline never worked for me, and thus I don't see the finale as anything really all that special. Conversely, "Graduation Day Pt. 2" had a lot fo storylines that I liked and the one I didn't (again, Buffy/Angel) wasn't at the forefront, so I thought it was a much better finale. I also don't think "Restless" gets quite the respect it should. Aside from "Normal Again," it's certainly the most literary of the finales, and the one that seemed to have the most lasting effects beyond that current season. It also was a nice exploration of the character development of the Scoobies that had occurred over the past four years, and hinted at what was to come for them in future seasons. It also worked, for me, that it was anti-climactic, which fit the tone of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Becoming pt 2 is far and away the best final they've done. They'll never come close to getting that kind of emotion out a season again. (and you can preach "The Body," but as a whole, season 2 had way more drama) I didn't think that Much of "The Gift" cause you knew one way or the other Buffy was coming right back the very next episode. I would have rather she sat out a couple of eps, made you think maybe she wasn't coming back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Yes, I didn't really feel all that much for "The Gift." I just didn't get into at much. Maybe it was because I had a 102 temp when I watched it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Season 2 shall live forever as the best love story ever shown on a television show. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Even better than Ross & Rachel?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Fuck Friends. Even though you were being sarcastic. Fuck Friends anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Sar-cas-tic? I know not of what you speak. Besides, we all know the real meaningful relationship in Buffy was between Xander and Giles.... Yeah, I just blew your fuckin mind. (I swear, if someone brought up the Xander/Giles relationship before this, then there is seriously something wrong with the world, goddammit.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted March 17, 2003 a-HEM. It goes like this: Becoming Part 2. Restless. Prophecy Girl. Graduation Day Part 2 - This pales in comparison to the greatness that is its first part. The Gift - PLOT HOLES A GO-GO! Grave - Shite. Last ten minutes = utter shite, worst ten minutes of Buffy ever. Die, Dawn, you irritating poo. This is utterly right, and you all know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EQ Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Man. I really don't get the Dawn hate. She's fine IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 You like Dawn EQ? She serves NO purpose anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EQ Report post Posted March 17, 2003 i don't hate her. she's just there, and that's that. Then again, I didn't hate Riley either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I don't hate Riley either...but man oh man do I hate Dawn. I've typed this 1000 times already, but since it's Dawn hate I can do it again. She came out as a HUGE crybaby, which you'd think would have gone away by season 6...but NO! She turned into a bigger crybaby. She was a crybaby from day 1...till the last 10 minutes of season 6. Out of no where she's some badass little fighter now. And now in season 7 she's some tough little S.O.B. That's just bad writing to progress a character like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Just watch "Potential", with the showing focusing around Dawn. She can't carry shit, and the show was very boring because of her. Alright, here are the spoilers for "Lies my Parents Told Me" for March 25th Spoiler (Highlight to Read): The Scoobies' failure to nullify the First's hold on Spike inspires Wood to pursue a vendetta as the vampire relives the day his soul was taken away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fazzle Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Just watch "Potential", with the showing focusing around Dawn. She can't carry shit, and the show was very boring because of her. As was Him, All the Way, and Older and Far Away. Plus perhaps other Dawn-centric episodes I forgot about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crux Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Dawn is lame--kill off the character now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fazzle Report post Posted March 17, 2003 It's a bit early, but I think it would be safe to say: Best. Episode. Ever. Especially if they kill Kennedy and Andrew in the same episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I like Kennedy, there is just something about her I like. Andrew, I can't stand. He is such a tool, and I don't find him funny at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fazzle Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Kennedy, IMO, is just too damn cocky and wannabe know-it-all for how little she's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I'd still fuck the shit out of here though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Kennedy, IMO, is just too damn cocky and wannabe know-it-all for how little she's done. That's what's going to make her death so cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Kennedy and Andrew rule! I'd sooner kill usless and gettin' ugly Willow! That's right!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I just watched an extra from Buffy season 3, and they said that Joss still goes over every episode and edits it. I hope he still does this, even though I don't think he did with season 6. Does anyone have the EW magazine in which they graded the first 100 episodes of Buffy? If so, I'd be willing to trade anything for it. I gave it to my ex before I was a fan of the show. She lost it, so if anyone has it, let me know. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Kennedy and Andrew rule! I'd sooner kill usless and gettin' ugly Willow! That's right!!!!!! Hey now...she's getting older, her looks have to go a little...and at least the show's ending before she gets ugly. I still love Aly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I just watched an extra from Buffy season 3, and they said that Joss still goes over every episode and edits it. I hope he still does this, even though I don't think he did with season 6. Joss spent season 6 coked out of his head after cashing those UPN checks...he just came down from it in time for season 7... my theory anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Maybe he was getting all his shit together for Firefly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Maybe he was getting all his shit together for Firefly? Yeah...like that did a lot of good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 It was stuck on the second night of television, Friday night. Fox is just so stupid like that. They put one of there up and coming shows, Dark Angel, on Friday night. The show is aimed at young men adults, who are usually out on a Friday night. No wonder the show went down in ratings, and it got cancelled. Once I heard that, I could hear the death of the show. Joss was even thinking about Buffy during Firefly. He wrote the song Anya sang for "Selfless" on the set of Firefly. When Joss starts writing movies, he will be doing pretty well for himself, IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I know, I was just joking. I knew the show couldn't last on a Friday night. And the bitch about it is that they wouldn't even move it to another night to give it a fighting chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 17, 2003 I honestly don't even know what Firefly was about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites