Guest Youth N Asia Posted January 16, 2003 Report Posted January 16, 2003 I don't keep up with puro anymore, but I keep reading that damn name and now I'm curious. So who is the guy, and can someone post a pic?
LooseCannon25 Posted January 16, 2003 Report Posted January 16, 2003 Bob Sapp is a monster. He was in the MMA world competing in PRide and he's a wrestler now in Japan. One right hand from this guy will knock just about anyone out.
EL DANDY~! Posted January 16, 2003 Report Posted January 16, 2003 He's a legit 6'6" 350 lbs. He's a guy who has done a FLYING HEADBUTT in competition before. It looked pretty good, too. Outside of a couple of clips, I haven't seen too much, but Mutoh is sold on him. Big, black, and can punch your lights out. That is why he's teaming up with him on the Wrestle-1 PPV.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Here's a few. He's Meltzer's choice for "Wrestle of the Year," ya know. I'd be upset but...it's Dave.
Guest wolverine Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 The last time the Observer Wrestler of the Year award winner made any sense was Steve Austin in 1998. Since then, it's been one stupid pick after another (Misawa, HHH and Mutoh).
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 holy CRAP that's a funny picture^
Guest PlatypusFool Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 He's basically a guy with great charisma, good interview technique and an ability to come up with superb quotable quotes who has done reasonably well on the MMA curcuit. He's got himself over huge with the Japanese fans and so now everyone wants to fight him.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Good for a laugh. It should also be noted that he was a failed student of the WCW Power Plant, which should give you an idea of the level of worker he is.
Guest Lord of The Curry Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 He scares me. He really, really scares me. I'd kill myself before trying to fight that guy.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 Why is he considered wrestler of the year in Japan if he sucks so bad at actual wrestling?
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 Basically, Meltzer has decided that not only is drawing power a major deciding factor, but that the wrestler's drawing power doesn't even need to be derived from the wrestling spectrum.
EL DANDY~! Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 The last time the Observer Wrestler of the Year award winner made any sense was Steve Austin in 1998. Since then, it's been one stupid pick after another (Misawa, HHH and Mutoh). Ok. I don't know about Misawa in 1999, though I did hear he had another great match with Kawada for the TC...but HHH had an awesome 2000 year, on par with some of the better years by Misawa and such. Mutoh won because he got the push to the fucking moon and back. His matches were entertaining to a point...and I say a point. If Benoit didn't get injured, I'd give it to him for 2001. This year...Sapp wasn't even close. It was Kurt Angle. Bar none.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 I don't see anything special about HHH's 2000. He had one match that I might consider a MOTC and that was with Foley at the Royal Rumble. Everything after that, be it with Jericho, Benoit, Rock, Angle, Austin, whoever, is pretty much worthless as far as I'm concerned. It was pedestrian work from a guy who really wasn't doing anything differently from what he's doing now but was supposedly on a whole new playing field, for some reason. What does getting pushed to the moon have to do with getting named Wrestle of the Year? Shouldn't I then be able to make a case for Hogan in the eighties, even though Dave never gave it to him? And I don't really get Kurt Angle either. Meltzer's always loved him, so I can see that, but just looking at the numbers, he hasn't drawn any big houses, and his only good matches were with Chris Benoit. Beyond that, Benoit was doing better work with other guys who Kurt was pretty much going through the motions with, like Eddy, Rey, ect. But here I am trying to evaluate Metlzer's picks based on logic. The fact that Bob Sapp even got on the ballot makes it pretty much impossible to do that.
Guest Downhome Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 I do believe they just started an angle in Japan, where Bob Sapp is Abdulah the Butcher's son.
Guest Ace309 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 Jesus, Downhome, don't say that too loud. You'll scare people off.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 I always think of HHH's good year and then I think to his opponents and realize....look at who he was wrestling! Austin,Rock,Foley,Benoit,Angle, and even TAKA! Those guys are all good. HHH was protected by the good workers!
Guest wolverine Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 I didn't think any of those matches were that good though. The Jericho TV matches and the Fully Loaded match were fun, but that's about it.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 Ok you didn't think they were good. However I enjoyed them and thought they were good.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 The TAKA match was basically a squash. The Austin match was an angle disguised as a match. The Angle match was called a dissapointment by guys who were beating off to those two all year. The Rock match had about ten minutes of actual work and fifty plus minutes of stooging and stalling to fill it up. The Benoit match was a failed attempt at deep psychology without the selling needed to make that storyline affective. I think if people can bring themselves to re-watch many of HHH's "High End" matches from that year, they'll find the same guy who stunk up the Rumble last night and hasn't had a decent match since he returned. Nothing happened durring his shelf-time that made him go from "God of Work" to "Horrible Wrestler."
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 21, 2003 Report Posted January 21, 2003 Despite the flaws(even if i don't see some of the ones you see) I liked those matches and I have watched them more than once.
Guest NoSelfWorth Posted January 22, 2003 Report Posted January 22, 2003 I'd like to point out that the Observer awards are voted for by the readers, and not decided upon by Dave.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 23, 2003 Report Posted January 23, 2003 Maybe Dave should do them then. I mean they guy has a great mind for wrestling. With the awards decided by readers it turns into a smark popularity contest.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 23, 2003 Report Posted January 23, 2003 Meltzer does indeed give his own personal selection for wrestler of the year, and this year it was Bob Sapp. Kurt Angle won in the Year End Awards, with Sapp coming in second, IIRC. Meltzer's reason for not picking Kurt? Not enough of a draw. Funny, I remember Sapp's numbers for actual *wrestling* events being shit as well. Ah well, Dave must be thinking in another time zone again.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 23, 2003 Report Posted January 23, 2003 I dunno. Like I said I don't disagree with Dave's mind for wrestling. But the guy is a fan just like us. It's hard to be subjective in this business and he marks for certain wrestlers just like us. Apparently Bob Sapp is one of them. But he shouldn't let that cloud his judgement. This whole Bob Sapp thing in Japan, is there an equivalent to it in America?
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 23, 2003 Report Posted January 23, 2003 Bob Sapp was to Japan, what Ken Shamrock was in the WWF when he first showed up in 1997, when was his first pinfall loss? I'd guess sometime in early 1998. His first loss period was a countout at SummerSlam 1997. The man was over like crazy, when he made Vader submit in May in his debut the heat was through the roof.
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Posted January 25, 2003 Report Posted January 25, 2003 Bob Sapp trivia!!! He was actually drafted in the third round by the Bears in the 90's as a lineman. He then showed the first hint of his sense of humor by being hilariously cut before the season started because he was so bad. Go Bears
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted January 26, 2003 Report Posted January 26, 2003 Bob Sapp also fought William "Refrigerator" Perry in a Toughman fight. He didn't do anything noteworthy until about the second round where he snapped because Fridge landed an uppercut on him. I thought his promo skills sucked when he was on Tough Man and he looked winded after going one round with the Fridge.
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