And so it begins...

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Umm Qasar "liberated"

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Iraqi News Confrence after some hours of nothing.

 

Information Minister goes on about how dare we attack Iraq. (heh).

 

It's incredibly surreal to see them go on about our illegal invasion and what they plan to do about us while in the split screen you can see our tanks rumbling through the desert to their location.

 

 

He also called Boy George a gangster. Really. I guess I'm just happy to be part of the gang.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

First marine killed in action according to CNN.

 

Also, the Pentagon is saying the missiles being lobbed at Kuwait are NOT scuds. Faux News is complete trash. They have proclaimed the missiles to be Scuds, even though there was not official word. The fair and balanced reported said it is proof Iraq "lied through their teeth". Now I have no doubt Iraq decieved the inspectors, but a little proof would go a long way in this case.

[The Robfather 0]

The army guys on FOX named their Vehicle "Skeletor" and the have Ram Skull replete with horns on a stake mounted on the Vehcicle!

 

They also showed the vechicle commander taking a well deserved snooze while the other guys watch over him!

 

They must be fans of the He-Man cartoon!

[Guest Mad Dog]

The Pentegon is saying they think Saddam was in the bunker they hit with the first shots.

 

Fox actually announced the type of missles once it was known.

[Guest HartFan86]

We are bombing the FUCK out of Baghdad right now. I mean, holy shit.

[Guest Mad Dog]

Hopefully this breaks what little will they had.

[Guest JangoFett4Hire]

Is there any doubt that Hussein is dead?

[Guest Mad Dog]

Stock market is making a huge rebound this week. They're saying this has been the best week since 1982.

[Guest Kingpk]

Yeah, there was a TON of uncertainty on Wall Street of where this thing was going. Once this started and the direction was clear, many are betting on a fairly quick war (1-2 weeks or so).

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

MSNBC, showing liberated southern town, the locals are dancing in the streets, shaking hands with our guys, helping tear down Saddam posters.

[Guest Vyce]

MSNBC, showing liberated southern town, the locals are dancing in the streets, shaking hands with our guys, helping tear down Saddam posters.

Shiite (sp?) Muslims. If anyone's glad to see Saddam go, it's them.

 

It WAS a very uplifting moment. Regardless of what one believes are the motivations for the war, THAT is the type of thing we want to happen. Liberation.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Three top Iraqi leaders — including Saddam Hussein's cousin, the infamous "Chemical Ali" — are believed to have been killed in what would be a major blow to the regime's defense against the U.S.-led onslaught, CIA officials told ABCNEWS.

 

ABCNEWS' Brian Ross reported that the three critical Iraqi officials — Taha Yasin Ramadan, Izzat Ibrahaim al Douri, and Ali Hassan Majid, known as Chemical Ali — are believed to have died in Wednesday night's "decapitation attack," the opening salvo of the war. CIA officials said they reached this conclusion after watching who went where, who didn't arrive where they were expected.

 

"Chemical Ali" earned his chilling nickname by using chemical weapons to suppress a Kurdish rebellion in northern Iraq in the late 1980s, killing thousands. Both Ramadan and Ibrahim are long-time advisors to Saddam. Along with Saddam himself, the two men were the only surviving plotters who carried out the coup that brought the Baath Party to power in 1968.

 

The three men did not appear in a videotape of Saddam Hussein meets with advisers released today. Also absent was Saddam's eldest son Odai. There are suspicions he also may have been killed.

[Guest phoenixrising]

I heard that gas prices will go down by as much as 15% at the end of the month. In California that should drop us below $2 a gallon.

 

Amazing how all those bombs are going into one area - the military/leadership targets on that one bend of the Tigris River in Baghdad. Some Iraqis, when asked, said they didn't even know what those buildings were for.

 

First gun camera footage shown during the morning briefing - F-14's hitting targets with laser-guided bombs. Carrier aircraft also took part in the Baghdad raids...CNN interviewed a couple after landing.

 

One more point...related to Rumsfield mentioning how different this bombing was to the WWII bombing. In WWII we'd send a hundred bombers to hit one target, pinpoint accuracy meant laying a bomb pattern over the target and anything near it (including civilians) and several of the bombers didn't make it back. Now a single B-2 can carry sixteen JDAM bombs, drop them all on different targets with pinpoint accuracy, and the radar never sees them coming. The technology of war has drastically changed in sixty years...hell it's drastically changed in the last twelve.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

The technology of war has drastically changed in sixty years...hell it's drastically changed in the last twelve.

Much of the stuff we were using in Vietnam was built in WWII.

 

Much of the stuff we used in Gulf War I was built during Vietnam

 

Much of the stuff we are using today was built in the first Gulf War.

[Guest phoenixrising]

True.

 

Of course there's always the old saying about preparing to fight the last war.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Well, we're certainly showing we're ready to kick the crap out of 1991 Iraq.

[Guest Mad Dog]

Shit two British helicopters collided killing 7.

 

Looks like we've killed more of our own by accident than the enemy.

 

Iraq is also claiming 250 civilians hurt in the bombings but then who believes a damn thing they say.

[Guest phoenixrising]

250 civilians wounded. Well when bombs go off glass shatters and stuff falls off the walls so I guess they're probably counting those as casualties. There's probably a few that have been seriously wounded but I bet a lot is a slight scratch or cut from flying glass.

 

One of the crew on one of the Brit helicopters was an American. That's 14 British and five Americans killed from helicopter crashes alone.

[Guest SP-1]

Meh, I don't really believe Iraqi Gov't figures about Civilians. They're just trying to play upon the fears of the more idiotic anti-war people to create unrest.

[Guest Mad Dog]

Yeah.

 

I mean this is from the same source that was swearing that we weren't in Iraq even though we were getting live shots of our troops well into Iraq.

[Guest Mad Dog]

I had been hearing people say MTV had really been horrible with the war coverage so I turned it on out of curiousity.

 

Well it was horrible.

 

First off they are trying to make protesting look like the cool thing to do and called protests that were proven to be violent peaceful. It seemed like they were encouraging kids to go do it b/c it was cool.

 

They totally downplayed the actions of Iraqis and this idiot was trying to imply that we're tricking them or something. Then he tries to imply we're saying it's for freedom instead of conquering. That was the first time in ANY news coverage since the summer I've heard someone say conquer. Then this same idiot wants to show us what Arab Americans think. So then he shows 4 people who all parrot the same thing and on the chance you heard him actually ask a question it was always worded in a way to get the most negative response possible. There were also no opinions from Iraqi people in America.

 

While they on occasion would show an artist for the war I'd say the ratio is running 5 to 1.

 

And they seem to be heavily promoting the no war for oil slogan as I saw that a lot.

 

So there you have it. Worst case of biased reporting I think I've ever seen.

[Guest EricMM]

Dude what's up with these helicopters...

 

Don't seem to work very well in the desert!

[Guest Mad Dog]

4 more Americans killed by an ambush.

[Guest Brian]

It's going to get worse when the winds pick up. More sandstorms.

 

CNN said the hospitals were full and they needed more doctors. Stuff tends to fly around when you blow it up.

 

Fuck that peceful protest shit. We need to get some action going. Get back to what works, old WTO tactics. Tagging in the streets, fihting with cops, vandalising the federal building. We need to make a statement.

[Guest Mad Dog]

2 journalists killed by a car bomb in north Iraq.

[Guest MD2020]

Fuck that peceful protest shit. We need to get some action going. Get back to what works, old WTO tactics. Tagging in the streets, fihting with cops, vandalising the federal building. We need to make a statement.

Yeah...you guys need to make a statement. Apparantly, "Shitting for peace" doesn't persuade people like you think it would.

 

Those may be the only jokes to come out of yesterday's demonstrations. In the Financial District, the demonstrators were of the traditional kind -- fatigue jackets and granny dresses. Indeed, around Montgomery & Market, the happenings had the air -- the sexy air -- of old Berkeley. But at the Civic Center, at traffic intersections around Mish, 7th, 8th, and along Van Ness and up through the Tenderloin, things were absurd and self-indulgent. The demonstrators were of the freakish sort: clown clothes, bicycles, and cans of plastic string. But it wasn't fun.

 

    At 7th & Mish, by the U.S. Court House, I sat in a van driven by Nathaniel Shelton, who transports patients to and from Saint Francis Memorial Hospital. We were stuck, along with a fleet of Fed Ex drivers, just after 9 a.m., as demonstrators rode bikes in a circle in the intersection, closed it off with colored string, and berated the truck drivers.

 

    "It's almost as if they were protesting us," said Shelton. Indeed, the enmity and ridicule of the protesters was directed at working people trying to get their work done. The massive Court House, a seat of government power, was ignored. At the Civic Center, a group of demonstrators defecated. Then they left, leaving the mess to be cleaned up by others. Not only disgusting, but this idiocy belittles the proud tradition of civic protest in our national history ... Sigh ...

 

Story can be found here:

http://www.examiner.com/pj_corkery/default...tory=n.pj.0321w

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Here are a few war-related things that have been annoying me so far. Anyone else feel the same?

 

1. "Shock and awe". Wow, after 2 days I'm already sick of hearing this. It's a dumb slogan to begin with, and it gets repeated every 5 minutes on the TV.

 

2. "Operation Iraqi Freedom". Speaking of blah. What, they were in such a hurry to recycle "Operation Enduring Freedom"? Operation Desert Storm has a good ring to it, this name sucks the big one.

 

3. Videophones. Fuck I hate these with a passion. With all the technology and money, this is the best CNN can do for video? There was some really good coverage last night in the midnight-2 pacific time zone of a US battalion rigging and blowing up abandoned tanks. This coverage would have been about 1000 times better had the video footage not looked like something off a webcam.

[Guest SP-1]

Fuck that peceful protest shit. We need to get some action going. Get back to what works, old WTO tactics. Tagging in the streets, fihting with cops, vandalising the federal building. We need to make a statement.

Yes . . . because causing havoc in the streets creates a safe environment for our civilians. People never get hurt by riots. Nope. Not ever.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Fuck that peceful protest shit. We need to get some action going. Get back to what works, old WTO tactics. Tagging in the streets, fihting with cops, vandalising the federal building. We need to make a statement.

So cause even more problems for people who just wanna go about their daily lives and make the police babysit the protesters when they have more important things to do.