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The Gambling Thread for WrestleMania XIX!

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Welcome to the Gambling Thread for WrestleMania XIX! Hopefully with new rules implemented we can shake things up a bit. I've decided to eliminate the $100 survivor award, it just didn't make any sense to me to keep it. Anyways....

 

Here are the current standings:

 

1-Kotzenjunge 2200

2-DeputyHawk 1700

3-tpww7 1650

4-teke184 1600

5-Kingpk 1550

6-Canadian Chris 1500

7-NaturalBornThriller4:20 1500

8-Canadian Chick 1450

9-I’m That Damn Zzzzz 1400

10-Original Orange Goblin 1350

11-creativename 1300

12-Sandman9000 1300

13-Space_Cowboy 1200

14-Ultimo_Dragon 1100

15-Hollywood Spike Jenkins 1100

16-AM The Kid 1000

17-MrZsasz 1000

18-Marvinisalunatic 1000

19-Secret Agent 1000

20-EricDraven 950

21-Archoan 900

22-The Tino Standard 900

23-Slickster 800

24-the r-train 800

25-Bischoff Is God!!! 800

26-African American 800

27-Anglesault 700

28-The New Me 600

29-Bravesfan 500

30-Downhome 400

 

The rules are as follows:

 

1--You can now make bets up to $500 on any one match. However, these bets must be by 50's. (50, 100, 150, ect.) All bets are double or nothing. (ie: Poster bets $50 on match, wins gets 50 they bet plus another 50, loses they lose their bet)

 

2--You have to bet at least $400 on each show to avoid sandbagging. Those with less than $400 in the bank must bet all the money they have.

 

3--You must bet on every match (unless you don't have enough money). This will help with people just betting on the matches whose outcome is obvious, and not the ones that aren't so obvious.

 

4--To place your bets, simply cut & paste from the card below and put who you're betting on and the amount you’re gambling under the match.

 

5--No-contests, Double DQs, double count-outs, time-limit draws etc. result in a no win/no lose situation and negate the bet.

 

6--Anyone who drops down to $0 in the bank is not allowed back in – they must live with the stigma of being a stupid wrestling fan until the day they die.

 

7--Betting will be closed 30-60 minutes before the PPV, but you may edit your bets in the thread up until that time. Anyone caught betting after that time will be disqualified.

 

8--5 newbies are allowed in this month. Please try and check to make sure that there is an available space before applying, otherwise you will have to wait till next month.

 

 

Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX:

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Street Fight

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

 

 

Here are my picks:

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500

 

World Title Match

Triple H © vs. Booker T.

Winner: Triple H, $50

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, $50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Winner: Chris Jericho, $100

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Street Fight

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Winner: Hulk Hogan, $150

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

Winners: Chris Benoit & Rhyno, $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $50

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $100

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Winner: Jazz, $50

 

As always, thoughts and suggestions on how to improve the game are welcome. Come on everyone, lets see your bets!

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Guest Zack Malibu

I'll throw my name in for this...

 

 

Zack's picks:

 

Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX:

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

 

WINNER:Brock ($100 bet)

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

 

WINNER:Triple H ($50 bet)

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

 

WINNER:The Rock ($50 bet)

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

 

WINNER: Chris Jericho ($50 bet)

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

 

WINNER:Hogan ($50 bet)

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

 

WINNER:Benoit and Rhyno ($50 bet)

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

 

WINNER:Rey Mysterio ($50 bet)

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

 

WINNER:A-Train and Big Show ($50 bet)

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

 

WINNER:Jazz ($50 bet)

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Guest CanadianChick

Before I make my bets, I must ask: where is the RVD/Kane vs. Morely/Storm match?

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500

 

World Title Match

Triple H © vs. Booker T.

Winner: Triple H, $100

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin,$50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Winner: Chris Jericho, $100

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

Winners: Team Angle, $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $100

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $150

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Winner: Trish, $50

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Guest ViciousFish

Cool, can I be in? If so here are the bets

 

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

Winner: Brock Lesnar, $100

 

World Title Match

Triple H © vs. Booker T.

Winner: Triple H, $50

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, $50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Winner: Chris Jericho, $50

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

Winners: Team Angle, $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $50

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $50

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Winner: Jazz, $50

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Guest I'm That Damn Zzzzz
As always, thoughts and suggestions on how to improve the game are welcome. Come on everyone, lets see your bets!

An Idea:

For certain bets some sort of handicap would be good, like paying $50 or $100 for choosing the overwhelming favorite. The amount wouldn't be part of the bet, just a fee for the privilege for betting on the said overwhelming favorite, regardless of the outcome. If that doesn't make sense then forget it.

 

 

My Picks:

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

$500 on Brock Lesnar

 

Worthless Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

$50 on Booker T

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

$50 on Austin

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

$50 on Chris Jericho

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

$50 on Hogan

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

$50 on Chris Benoit and Rhyno

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

$300 on Rey Mysterio

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

$50 on Undertaker and Nathan Jones

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

$50 on Trish Stratus

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500

 

World Title Match

Triple H © vs. Booker T.

Winner: Triple H, $100

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin,$50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Winner: Chris Jericho, $100

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

Winners: Team Angle, $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $100

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $150

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Winner: Trish, $50

Jazz $50

 

Taker/Jones $50

 

Rey $50

 

Benoit/Rhyno $50

 

Hogan $50

 

Jericho $50

 

Rock $50

 

God-uh $50

 

Brock $300

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar lesner $100

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T. BT $25

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Rock $25

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Y2J $50

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Hogan $50

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Team Angle $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

$50 rey

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Taker $20

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Jazz $50

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Guest Showstoppa Icon

Ill throw my name in too

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar- Brock- $100

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.- HHH - $50

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - Rock $50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals- Chris Jericho $50

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon- Hogan $50

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno- Team Angle $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - Rey Jr- $50

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show- Atrain/Show $50

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz- Jazz $50

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If i may:

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

Brock $100

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

HHH $50

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

The Rock $50

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

Jericho $50

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

Hogan $50

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

Team Angle $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

Rey Mysterio $50

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

Taker/Jones $50

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

Trish $50

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - $200 on Brock Lesnar

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.- $50 HHH.

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - $100 Austin

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals - $100 Jericho

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon - $50 Hogan

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno - $150 Team Angle

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.- $200 Rey Mysterio

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show - $200 Taker/Nathan Jones

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz - $50 Jazz

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Guest C-Bacon

Newbie here.

 

Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX:

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - ($50 Lesnar)

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T. ($50 on HHH)

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin ($50 on Austin)

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals ($50 HBK)

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon ($100 on Hogan)

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno ($50 - Team Angle)

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. ($50 Rey)

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show ($50 Taker/Jones)

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz ($50 Victoria)

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I'm sorry C-Bacon, but I have my 5 newbies.

They are ViciousFish, Showstoppa Icon, doink, chave, and Zack Malibu. Please no more newbies add your bets, you can try again next month.

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I'm sorry C-Bacon, but I have my 5 newbies.

They are ViciousFish, Showstoppa Icon, doink, chave, and Zack Malibu. Please no more newbies add your bets, you can try again next month.

D'oh. ok then , next month it is.

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Guest Lightning Flik

ARGH~! Dammit I'm late AGAIN~! ...oh well, next month it is.

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Guest CanadianChris

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

WINNER: Brock Lesnar ($500)

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

WINNER: Booker T ($50)

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

WINNER: Rock ($50)

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

WINNER: Chris Jericho ($250)

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

WINNER: Hulk Hogan ($100)

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

WINNER: Team Angle ($50)

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

WINNER: Rey Mysterio Jr. ($100)

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

WINNER: Undertaker/Jones ($200)

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

WINNER: Jazz ($50)

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - 400$

 

World Title Match

HHH - 50$ vs. Booker T.

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - $50

 

Chris Jericho - 150$ vs. Shawn Micheals

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan - 300$ vs. Vince McMahon

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros - 150$ vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - 100$

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones - 100$ vs. A-Train and The Big Show

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus - 50$ vs. Jazz

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I've got $1200 to play with, lets try and make more fake money off the WWE's predictability.

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

-> Brock Lesnar ($250)

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

-> Triple H ($50)

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

-> The Rock ($100)

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

-> Chris Jericho ($100)

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

-> Hulk Hogan ($100)

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

-> Los Guerreros ($50)

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

-> Rey Mysterio ($100)

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

-> Undertaker/Nathan Jones ($400)

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

-> Jazz ($50)

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WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - $500

 

World Title Match

HHH - $100 vs. Booker T.

 

The Rock - $200 vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

 

Chris Jericho - $50 vs. Shawn Micheals

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan - $100 vs. Vince McMahon

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno - $50

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - $50

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones - $50 vs. A-Train and The Big Show

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz - $50

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Guest Army Eye

If you want feedback on the game, here are a few points:

 

1) I think it'd be much more interesting if you had money lines on these matches. There are too many easy matches that the rich guys can lay a lot of money on. With money lines, peoplep could conceivably catch up on the leaders quicker, riskier picks would be rewarded, peoples' picks would actually be different, it would just make the game a lot more dynamic.

 

Is there ANY reason to, for example, bet on Angle in the main event? Maybe an unfair example, because of his injury, but logic says he'd still be dead meat anyway. Change it to Jericho WM X-8 if you want another example. If I'm laying $100 on Angle winning, I should get something like $400 back, just like betting on a big underdog in a sports game. Likewise, I should have to bet several hundred just to win $100 on Lesnar.

 

Think about how much somebody could've CLEANED UP betting on Angle beating HHH at No Way Out 2002, or Jericho winning it all at Vengeance 2001, if one were to make such bold bets. In the current system there would be no reason to stick your neck out like that. This would be a cleaner way of handling what you're doing, with the forcing of a bet on every match and stuff. You know the problem but there is a more elegant answer that makes the game more exciting.

 

A few sample lines for Sunday's card could be as follows:

 

Chris Jericho (-110) vs. Shawn Michaels (-110)

HHH (-140) vs. Booker T (+120)

Hulk Hogan (-280) vs. Vince McMahon (+240)

Brock Lesnar (-400) vs. Kurt Angle (+350)

 

 

2) You could spice up the game with proposition bets. Which match will be the longest.. which match will go on last.. will there be a run-in in the main event.. will Goldberg make an appearance (+150) :) Stuff like that.

 

3) Only allowing 5 newbies per contest, that's just not enough. Here, all slots were filled within an hour of your post. It takes more luck to get INTO the game than it does to win money in it once you're in :)

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1. I do like the idea of specific odds for different matches, the problem is though, how to decide those odds. I don't personally find myself qualified enough to do that.

 

2. These are interesting, and I may add them as I see fit or if their is enough demand for them, such as picking the final four in the rumble.

 

3. I would like to allow more people in but frankly, I'd rather not do that much work, especially if the rules are more complex, which would take alot more time.

 

Thank you for your suggestions, they were good.

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The Hogan Retirement Match-I thought he only retired if McMahon beat him...

 

 

WWE Title Match

Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar

$300 on Lesnar

 

World Title Match

HHH vs. Booker T.

$50 on HHH

 

The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

$50 on Rocky

 

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals

$50 on Y2J

 

Hulk Hogan Retirement Match

Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

$50 on McMahon

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno

$100 on Team Angle

 

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.

$50 on Mattitude

 

Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show

$100 on Taker and Jones

 

WWE Women's Title Match

Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz

$50 on Victoria

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