Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Welcome to the Gambling Thread for WrestleMania XIX! Hopefully with new rules implemented we can shake things up a bit. I've decided to eliminate the $100 survivor award, it just didn't make any sense to me to keep it. Anyways.... Here are the current standings: 1-Kotzenjunge 2200 2-DeputyHawk 1700 3-tpww7 1650 4-teke184 1600 5-Kingpk 1550 6-Canadian Chris 1500 7-NaturalBornThriller4:20 1500 8-Canadian Chick 1450 9-I’m That Damn Zzzzz 1400 10-Original Orange Goblin 1350 11-creativename 1300 12-Sandman9000 1300 13-Space_Cowboy 1200 14-Ultimo_Dragon 1100 15-Hollywood Spike Jenkins 1100 16-AM The Kid 1000 17-MrZsasz 1000 18-Marvinisalunatic 1000 19-Secret Agent 1000 20-EricDraven 950 21-Archoan 900 22-The Tino Standard 900 23-Slickster 800 24-the r-train 800 25-Bischoff Is God!!! 800 26-African American 800 27-Anglesault 700 28-The New Me 600 29-Bravesfan 500 30-Downhome 400 The rules are as follows: 1--You can now make bets up to $500 on any one match. However, these bets must be by 50's. (50, 100, 150, ect.) All bets are double or nothing. (ie: Poster bets $50 on match, wins gets 50 they bet plus another 50, loses they lose their bet) 2--You have to bet at least $400 on each show to avoid sandbagging. Those with less than $400 in the bank must bet all the money they have. 3--You must bet on every match (unless you don't have enough money). This will help with people just betting on the matches whose outcome is obvious, and not the ones that aren't so obvious. 4--To place your bets, simply cut & paste from the card below and put who you're betting on and the amount you’re gambling under the match. 5--No-contests, Double DQs, double count-outs, time-limit draws etc. result in a no win/no lose situation and negate the bet. 6--Anyone who drops down to $0 in the bank is not allowed back in – they must live with the stigma of being a stupid wrestling fan until the day they die. 7--Betting will be closed 30-60 minutes before the PPV, but you may edit your bets in the thread up until that time. Anyone caught betting after that time will be disqualified. 8--5 newbies are allowed in this month. Please try and check to make sure that there is an available space before applying, otherwise you will have to wait till next month. Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Hulk Hogan Retirement Street Fight Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Here are my picks: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500 World Title Match Triple H © vs. Booker T. Winner: Triple H, $50 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, $50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Winner: Chris Jericho, $100 Hulk Hogan Retirement Street Fight Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Winner: Hulk Hogan, $150 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Winners: Chris Benoit & Rhyno, $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $50 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $100 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Winner: Jazz, $50 As always, thoughts and suggestions on how to improve the game are welcome. Come on everyone, lets see your bets!
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 Yes, you can. Just put up your picks and bets as indicated in the rules.
Guest Zack Malibu Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 I'll throw my name in for this... Zack's picks: Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar WINNER:Brock ($100 bet) World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. WINNER:Triple H ($50 bet) The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin WINNER:The Rock ($50 bet) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals WINNER: Chris Jericho ($50 bet) Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon WINNER:Hogan ($50 bet) WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno WINNER:Benoit and Rhyno ($50 bet) WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. WINNER:Rey Mysterio ($50 bet) Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show WINNER:A-Train and Big Show ($50 bet) WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz WINNER:Jazz ($50 bet)
Guest CanadianChick Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Before I make my bets, I must ask: where is the RVD/Kane vs. Morely/Storm match?
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): I asked Marvin and he let me know that RVD/Kane vs. Storm/Morely has been put on HEAT.
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 Zack Malibu, as a newbie you have only $500 to bet. Change your bets.
Guest CanadianChick Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500 World Title Match Triple H © vs. Booker T. Winner: Triple H, $100 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin,$50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Winner: Chris Jericho, $100 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Winners: Team Angle, $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $100 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $150 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Winner: Trish, $50
Guest ViciousFish Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Cool, can I be in? If so here are the bets WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar Winner: Brock Lesnar, $100 World Title Match Triple H © vs. Booker T. Winner: Triple H, $50 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, $50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Winner: Chris Jericho, $50 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Winners: Team Angle, $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $50 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $50 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Winner: Jazz, $50
Guest I'm That Damn Zzzzz Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 As always, thoughts and suggestions on how to improve the game are welcome. Come on everyone, lets see your bets! An Idea: For certain bets some sort of handicap would be good, like paying $50 or $100 for choosing the overwhelming favorite. The amount wouldn't be part of the bet, just a fee for the privilege for betting on the said overwhelming favorite, regardless of the outcome. If that doesn't make sense then forget it. My Picks: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar $500 on Brock Lesnar Worthless Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. $50 on Booker T The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin $50 on Austin Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals $50 on Chris Jericho Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon $50 on Hogan WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno $50 on Chris Benoit and Rhyno WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. $300 on Rey Mysterio Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show $50 on Undertaker and Nathan Jones WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz $50 on Trish Stratus
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 Yes, you can be in until you see that 5 people who aren't on that list in my first post have added valid bets. Just read the rules and follow them.
Guest Anglesault Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar Winner: Brock Lesnar, $500 World Title Match Triple H © vs. Booker T. Winner: Triple H, $100 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Winner: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin,$50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Winner: Chris Jericho, $100 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Winner: Hulk Hogan, $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Winners: Team Angle, $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr., $100 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Winners: Undertaker and Nathan Jones, $150 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Winner: Trish, $50 Jazz $50 Taker/Jones $50 Rey $50 Benoit/Rhyno $50 Hogan $50 Jericho $50 Rock $50 God-uh $50 Brock $300
gWIL Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar lesner $100 World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. BT $25 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Rock $25 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Y2J $50 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Hogan $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Team Angle $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. $50 rey Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Taker $20 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Jazz $50
Guest Showstoppa Icon Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Ill throw my name in too WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar- Brock- $100 World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T.- HHH - $50 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - Rock $50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals- Chris Jericho $50 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon- Hogan $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno- Team Angle $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - Rey Jr- $50 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show- Atrain/Show $50 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz- Jazz $50
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 If i may: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar Brock $100 World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. HHH $50 The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin The Rock $50 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals Jericho $50 Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon Hogan $50 WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno Team Angle $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Rey Mysterio $50 Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show Taker/Jones $50 WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz Trish $50
Guest tpww7 Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - $200 on Brock Lesnar World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T.- $50 HHH. The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - $100 Austin Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals - $100 Jericho Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon - $50 Hogan WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno - $150 Team Angle WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.- $200 Rey Mysterio Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show - $200 Taker/Nathan Jones WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz - $50 Jazz
Guest C-Bacon Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Newbie here. Here it is, the Card for WrestleMania XIX: WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - ($50 Lesnar) World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. ($50 on HHH) The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin ($50 on Austin) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals ($50 HBK) Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon ($100 on Hogan) WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno ($50 - Team Angle) WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. ($50 Rey) Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show ($50 Taker/Jones) WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz ($50 Victoria)
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 I'm sorry C-Bacon, but I have my 5 newbies. They are ViciousFish, Showstoppa Icon, doink, chave, and Zack Malibu. Please no more newbies add your bets, you can try again next month.
Guest C-Bacon Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 I'm sorry C-Bacon, but I have my 5 newbies. They are ViciousFish, Showstoppa Icon, doink, chave, and Zack Malibu. Please no more newbies add your bets, you can try again next month. D'oh. ok then , next month it is.
Guest Lightning Flik Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 ARGH~! Dammit I'm late AGAIN~! ...oh well, next month it is.
Guest CanadianChris Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar WINNER: Brock Lesnar ($500) World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. WINNER: Booker T ($50) The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin WINNER: Rock ($50) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals WINNER: Chris Jericho ($250) Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon WINNER: Hulk Hogan ($100) WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno WINNER: Team Angle ($50) WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. WINNER: Rey Mysterio Jr. ($100) Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show WINNER: Undertaker/Jones ($200) WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz WINNER: Jazz ($50)
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - 400$ World Title Match HHH - 50$ vs. Booker T. The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - $50 Chris Jericho - 150$ vs. Shawn Micheals Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan - 300$ vs. Vince McMahon WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros - 150$ vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - 100$ Undertaker and Nathan Jones - 100$ vs. A-Train and The Big Show WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus - 50$ vs. Jazz
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 I've got $1200 to play with, lets try and make more fake money off the WWE's predictability. WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar -> Brock Lesnar ($250) World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. -> Triple H ($50) The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin -> The Rock ($100) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals -> Chris Jericho ($100) Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon -> Hulk Hogan ($100) WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno -> Los Guerreros ($50) WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. -> Rey Mysterio ($100) Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show -> Undertaker/Nathan Jones ($400) WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz -> Jazz ($50)
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar - $500 World Title Match HHH - $100 vs. Booker T. The Rock - $200 vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Chris Jericho - $50 vs. Shawn Micheals Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan - $100 vs. Vince McMahon WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno - $50 WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. - $50 Undertaker and Nathan Jones - $50 vs. A-Train and The Big Show WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz - $50
Guest Army Eye Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 If you want feedback on the game, here are a few points: 1) I think it'd be much more interesting if you had money lines on these matches. There are too many easy matches that the rich guys can lay a lot of money on. With money lines, peoplep could conceivably catch up on the leaders quicker, riskier picks would be rewarded, peoples' picks would actually be different, it would just make the game a lot more dynamic. Is there ANY reason to, for example, bet on Angle in the main event? Maybe an unfair example, because of his injury, but logic says he'd still be dead meat anyway. Change it to Jericho WM X-8 if you want another example. If I'm laying $100 on Angle winning, I should get something like $400 back, just like betting on a big underdog in a sports game. Likewise, I should have to bet several hundred just to win $100 on Lesnar. Think about how much somebody could've CLEANED UP betting on Angle beating HHH at No Way Out 2002, or Jericho winning it all at Vengeance 2001, if one were to make such bold bets. In the current system there would be no reason to stick your neck out like that. This would be a cleaner way of handling what you're doing, with the forcing of a bet on every match and stuff. You know the problem but there is a more elegant answer that makes the game more exciting. A few sample lines for Sunday's card could be as follows: Chris Jericho (-110) vs. Shawn Michaels (-110) HHH (-140) vs. Booker T (+120) Hulk Hogan (-280) vs. Vince McMahon (+240) Brock Lesnar (-400) vs. Kurt Angle (+350) 2) You could spice up the game with proposition bets. Which match will be the longest.. which match will go on last.. will there be a run-in in the main event.. will Goldberg make an appearance (+150) Stuff like that. 3) Only allowing 5 newbies per contest, that's just not enough. Here, all slots were filled within an hour of your post. It takes more luck to get INTO the game than it does to win money in it once you're in
Ultimo Dugas Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Posted March 27, 2003 1. I do like the idea of specific odds for different matches, the problem is though, how to decide those odds. I don't personally find myself qualified enough to do that. 2. These are interesting, and I may add them as I see fit or if their is enough demand for them, such as picking the final four in the rumble. 3. I would like to allow more people in but frankly, I'd rather not do that much work, especially if the rules are more complex, which would take alot more time. Thank you for your suggestions, they were good.
King Cucaracha Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 The Hogan Retirement Match-I thought he only retired if McMahon beat him... WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. Brock Lesnar $300 on Lesnar World Title Match HHH vs. Booker T. $50 on HHH The Rock vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin $50 on Rocky Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Micheals $50 on Y2J Hulk Hogan Retirement Match Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon $50 on McMahon WWE Tag Team Titles Match Team Angle © vs. Los Guerreros vs. Chris Benoit & Rhyno $100 on Team Angle WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Matt Hardy, Version 1 © vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. $50 on Mattitude Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. A-Train and The Big Show $100 on Taker and Jones WWE Women's Title Match Victoria © vs. Trish Stratus vs. Jazz $50 on Victoria
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