Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted March 28, 2003 This week, D'Lo Brown did an online chat at the NHB website - http://www.NoHoldsBarredWrestling.com and here are the highlights. D'Lo said that the Nation boosted his career. He put over X-Pac, Ron Simmons, AJ Styles, Jerry Jarrett, Jamie Noble, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and HHH. He mentioned that he got the name "D'Lo" in high school. He said that he trained at the Monster Factory and that he enjoyed running Bodyslammers in Ohio. When asked about last night's TNA pay-per-view, he stated that he needed seven stitches to close a cut on his head, but is hoping to be back to 100% in time for the next pay-per-view. He said that he plans to watch WrestleMania 19 so that he can cheer on his friends. He then predicted that "Stone Cold" Steve Austin will win at WrestleMania 19. He announced that he will face Jeff Jarrett for the NWA World Title next week. D'Lo hinted that his feud with Raven from WWE may continue in TNA. He revealed that he left WWE because his contract expired and that he has not been in contact with Vince McMahon or Jim Ross since his departure. -------- As for the reason why WWE didn't extend his contract, he said that in Vince's opinion, his character "wasn't taking off", and that he was "a casualty of politics". <<~~~~~ -------- When asked about his future, he said "I hope to someday be back in the WWE. I don't see that for the near future. I couldn't be happier in NWA-TNA!". He listed Steven Richards and Kane as his best friends in the wrestling business. He announced that he is working on his official website. He said that the Lo Down angle failed because Tiger Ali Singh got hurt too much. D'Lo put over the TV programs "24", "Law & Order" and "Star Trek". D'Lo listed AJ Styles and Ron "The Truth" Killings as wrestlers that he wants to work with in the future. When asked for his thoughts about the war, he simply stated "war is hell". He said that he wants to win the NWA World Title so that he will be ranked in the same category as Dusty Rhodes and Ric Flair. He mentioned that he got the frog splash from Eddy Guerrero. He said that the roster split in WWE gave some wrestlers opportunities and that merging the two top titles would be a mistake. When asked to list the promotions that he is currently wrestling for, he stated "I'm working with too many independents to name". He mentioned that he has yet to see Torrie Wilson's Playboy photos and said that seeing a woman go topless on a TNA pay-per-view was "an eye-opening experience". He stated that Tough Enough exposed the wrestling business as well as promoted it. When asked for his thoughts on internet rumors, he said "you should only believe about 1% of what you read on the internet....or anywhere else for that matter". Recap by NHB Staff Credit: 1wrestling Ok, I'm not a big D'Lo fan and was far from crying when WWE let him go, but this pisses me off. <As for the reason why WWE didn't extend his contract, he said that in Vince's opinion, his character "wasn't taking off", and that he was "a casualty of politics".> If Vince knows that his guys w/ talent, who could be a draw to some extent and make some money are being fucked around by politics then why the Hell doesn't he do something about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Vince has SO many people on the roster, why should he hold on to D'Lo who isn't over? I love D'Lo, but he is better off in NWA anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Clearly D'Lo is better off in TNA. Yeah, the pay isn't as good, but he's main eventing and he's getting a GREAT reaction from the crowd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted March 28, 2003 The WWE is not required to keep people it doesn't feel are assets, especially when they are in tough financial times. D-Lo wasn't over...no matter what they did the reaction from the crowd was ehh... niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2003 The WWE is not required to keep people it doesn't feel are assets, especially when they are in tough financial times. D-Lo wasn't over...no matter what they did the reaction from the crowd was ehh... niko When he was a face in mid-2002 he got decent enough reactions, but clearly the "Down with the Brown" stuff wasn't working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest crandamaniac Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Vince has SO many people on the roster, why should he hold on to D'Lo who isn't over? I love D'Lo, but he is better off in NWA anyway. Why couldn't he be just as over in the WWE as he is in NWA:TNA? Why can a new organization take "castaways" (Raven, D'Lo, Jerry Lynn) and use them better then a worldwide company that's been around for god knows how long? It's kind of a sad site when somebody says a certain wrestler would be better served if he wasn't in the WWE, even tho he's still popular and has tons of potential Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted March 28, 2003 I probably should have been a little more clear. My point wasn't all about D'Lo, like I said, I can take him and leave him. But, if Vince admits he knows guys like D'Lo were getting screwed around by politics, then he must damn well know and see stuff that happens with RVD and Jericho. RVD & Jericho, two guys who can be big time players and put some cash in his pocket, but he lets them get fucked around by politics. Why does he let this crap happen if he knows about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Why does he let this crap happen if he knows about it? Because he doesn't wanna let certain top "drawing" superstars leave cause they don't have their "spot". I'll let you come to the conclusion to who those are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted March 28, 2003 This company that uses everyone "better" is making enough money to barely stay in business, while WWE, in what has been a horrible year will probably still make a profit of 30 million dollars. So better is a very relative term. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 28, 2003 -------- As for the reason why WWE didn't extend his contract, he said that in Vince's opinion, his character "wasn't taking off", and that he was "a casualty of politics". <<~~~~~ -------- He said that the Lo Down angle failed because Tiger Ali Singh got hurt too much. First off, I really like D-lo, I liked him from day 1. The whole I hate Whitey character had been done before and done better before. And D-lo just isn't the right guy to pull something like that off. he comes off too friendly. And Lo-Down...I don't think it's cause Tiger got hurt...I think it didn't get over cause Tiger was Tiger. He was so unover by then and he's such a shitty wrestler. And what's with all this "D-Lo is better off in TNA" stuff? He was making $350,000 a year. How he's better in TNA I'll never know. Who knows if there would have been a place for him with a pay cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted March 28, 2003 D'Lo had no chance of breaking through the midcard in WW_. He's one of those "big fish in a small pond" kind of wrestlers. He just doesn't have that "it" factor to push him to the top of the card anywhere but in the smaller feds. His promo voice doesn't make me stand up and notice him, his wrestling skills are average at best, and he just doesn't exude that main event aura/look/whatever. I'm happy he's found his niche in TNA with guys like Saturn and Raven. Politics or not, he just wouldn't have made it far in Vinceland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest subliminal_animal Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Almost every time D'Lo got a chance to do something, he was over. He knew how to get over, they just didn't let him. Anything else is bullshit. He was getting pretty good reactions fighting people like Stasiak (who rules) on Heat. And they weren't just piped, you saw the people reacting to him. Ok, I'm not a big D'Lo fan and was far from crying when WWE let him go, but this pisses me off. <As for the reason why WWE didn't extend his contract, he said that in Vince's opinion, his character "wasn't taking off", and that he was "a casualty of politics".> If Vince knows that his guys w/ talent, who could be a draw to some extent and make some money are being fucked around by politics then why the Hell doesn't he do something about it? I don't think you read that right. I don't believe he meant Vince said that. Vince said D'Lo wasn't taking off, the politics thing was D'Lo's opinion. By the way, Vince expected him to "take off" with a gimmick no one cared about, as opposed to other stuff he could do that was proven that people did. I liked the Teddy Long angle, but it wasn't working, partially because they let Teddy say "playa" too much. You know what he really wanted to say. Vince is an idiot if all this shit you hear is even 10% true. And this ridiculous shit about him maybe being mroe open to pushing Nash as Diesel ... what the fuck. And Lo-Down...I don't think it's cause Tiger got hurt...I think it didn't get over cause Tiger was Tiger. He was so unover by then and he's such a shitty wrestler. I remember Tiger being pretty over. He cut some nice promos. I loved him. I hope he wins his lawsuit. I heard some shit about it being ridiculous a while ago, but it didn't sound that way to me. Go Tiger! And what's with all this "D-Lo is better off in TNA" stuff? He was making $350,000 a year. How he's better in TNA I'll never know. Who knows if there would have been a place for him with a pay cut. I'm sure they mean character-wise and how he gets a chance to do more. I'm sure no one is talking about the money. Use some common sense. I'm happy he's found his niche in TNA with guys like Saturn and Raven. Staurn is in New Japan. He never appeared for TNA. An honest mistake, though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Aero Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Financial-wise, for D'Lo himself, he was better in WWE. IMO, as a huge D'Lo mark and fan, he's better off in NWA-TNA... that is that he actually gets an oppurtunity. WWE seemed to just give up on him. I used to watch all those Sunday Night Heats when D'Lo was feuding with Raven, and he got massive pops. When he came to RAW, it's like they just gave up on him and stuck him with the racism angle. I'm glad that D'Lo is getting a big oppurtunity in NWA. I don't watch the shows, but if he wins the World Title, I'll be sure to watch every so often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted March 28, 2003 How dare he mention "24" and say nothing about "The Shield". Bastard. Just kidding. I am enjoying D-Lo in NWA and hope they can use him properly. He needs to bring the chest protector back though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted March 28, 2003 I'm happy he's found his niche in TNA with guys like Saturn and Raven. Staurn is in New Japan. He never appeared for TNA. An honest mistake, though! I think you should read Dames' TNA report this week. I'm sure it was an honest mistake on your part, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2003 And what's with all this "D-Lo is better off in TNA" stuff? He was making $350,000 a year. How he's better in TNA I'll never know. Who knows if there would have been a place for him with a pay cut. He was going to be released regardless, so financially, TNA was the only real way to go for him. Being utilized as a top guy, however, TNA would push him as an upper midcarder or main eventer while he's scraping by on Heat in WWE. I think that's everyone's point here. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 28, 2003 I wasn't hassled to go read the actual article however the two quotes were split up. As for the reason why WWE didn't extend his contract, he said that in Vince's opinion, his character "wasn't taking off", and that he was "a casualty of politics". So, the way I took it was Vince's opinion was that D'Lo's character wasn't taking off. Then I figured it was back to D'Lo talking and D'Lo said he was "a casualty of politics." That's the way I took it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jester Report post Posted March 28, 2003 So, the way I took it was Vince's opinion was that D'Lo's character wasn't taking off. Then I figured it was back to D'Lo talking and D'Lo said he was "a casualty of politics." That's the way I took it. That's how I read it too. I don't think Vince would ever would admit to company politics to anyone, especially not someone just leaving the WWE. D'lo himself is the one that believes he was shortchanged by politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 28, 2003 And what's with all this "D-Lo is better off in TNA" stuff? He was making $350,000 a year. How he's better in TNA I'll never know. Who knows if there would have been a place for him with a pay cut. He was going to be released regardless, so financially, TNA was the only real way to go for him. I understand that. But people are saying he's better off on TNA then he was on the WWE. With the WWE it's money in the bank and not having to worry about if there's going to be a next show. and it IS common sense for someone to be better off with a big steady paycheck then a show like TNA that can be here one day and gone the next. Now, after D-Lo was let go, of course TNA was the best move for him. But to hear other people tell it he would have been better there from day 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2003 First off, 350,000 a year is CRAZY money for someone competing on Heat. Shit, let me main event Heat for the rest of my life then. Second, it's obvious that D'Lo has talent and has been under pushed and under utilized since the Droz Incident. Now, if you're a wrestling fan and a fan of D'Lo's work, you'd rather see him on a rival promotion near the upper midcard or main event than watch him job every week on Heat. They aren't taking D'Lo's money into consideration because we aren't getting one cent off of it. If we were, then shit, let him stay there, right? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 29, 2003 But not every wrestling fan will pay $10 a week for a show. So most wrestling fans don't even know where D-Lo is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2003 The guy was very over in 98-99.......But, in the last few years hes been lost in the shuffle. Anybody remember the return on Raw he had in the blindfold match against Triple H. He was a surprise opponent, and the crowd reaction was one of the worst i've ever seen......i'm talking about COMPLETELY dead. Since then noone has given a fuck about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted March 29, 2003 Vince is afraid to create new stars and that is why RVD and Jericho get screwed. That, along with Vince's big man fetish screws it up for these guys. In 2001, Vince was afraid to let Jericho headling KOTR with Austin alone and plugged in Benoit. He felt the audience wouldn't buy into Jericho as a credible threat and then made his BABYFACE have a handicap over his HEEL. If that's not handwriting on the wall, I don't know what is. Then when Vince put the title on Jericho to end 2001, 2 months later he was telling his staff that Jericho's reign was a failure. Top that with HHH's non star making abilities and Jericho was down shit's creek sans paddle. RVD isn't getting pushed for several reasons= A)He's not enough of a hoss B)He's not a McMahon original C)He's seriously injured HHH more than once. As for D'Lo, at best he would be an upper midcarder (which he was around in late 99 before the Droz incident) and nothing more. He had a ton of talent, decent backstage acting abilities, but couldn't in ring promo that well, IMO. He has in ring down, but even if pushed, probrably wouldn't have drawn very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 29, 2003 A feud with Jarrett for the IC title is not upper midcard. He was midcard or lower for life in the WWF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites