bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2003 I would LOVE it if you lot boycotted the show, and it turned out that somehow Bret Hart or Foley returned, and everyone on Mya 6th would be like 'OMG, had anyone got the clips! OMG!!!' Won't happen obviously, but I'd be laughing my ass off. Haha, that would be pretty funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Yeah, that is a pretty stupid idea. Here's a crazy idea though. If you are unhappy with the product stop watching the show. Then you won't be all upset and bitching when you see things you don't like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 5, 2003 There is a campaign here in England for all those that attend Insurrextion in Newcastle to stand up and turn their backs to the ring when HHH comes to the ring. That would be hilarious. What are the announcers gunna say? They can't just not acknowledge it. And like I said....go somewhere else to talk about Raw. TSM shouldn't be the place. Why not? It's a WRESTLING website and RAW is a WRESTLING show. If you don't want to watch RAW that's fine but don't force other people to not be able to discuss it cause you're not happy with the product. At live shows I usually have fun and cheer for the faces and boo the heels unless it's someone that I really like (ie Regal) or someone that I really hate (ie Steiner) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Honestly, (at house shows at least) a few people is all it takes to get a "___ sucks!" chant going and it can build from the ground up. Actually, that just gives __________ a heel turn. You need to buy tons of tickets for your friends and family and all agree to sit silent for the entire show, neither cheering or booing anything, and hoping all around you do the same thing (hint: they won't) Nobody can change things besides Vince, and he's decided he doesn't want to. He will eventually, but he'll fire midcard workers he wasn't using right like Raven and D'lo to stop the money drain before he fixes things at the top. And because it's worth saying again, this shit won't fix anything without a Neilsen box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted April 5, 2003 It's a WRESTLING website and RAW is a WRESTLING show. You're using the dirty word, Barron. It ain't rasslin'. It's a bit of a stretch to use that word in the first place when RAW usually is a marathon of 2-3 minute matches. I can live without them, and I have, for quite awhile. The parts of SD I catch is a good enough fix. The taped factor works to my advantage there. I don't know why so many people put so much importance in the live factor - most TV shows are recorded, does that 'take away' from your enjoyment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 5, 2003 It's a WRESTLING website and RAW is a WRESTLING show. You're using the dirty word, Barron. It ain't rasslin'. It's a bit of a stretch to use that word in the first place when RAW usually is a marathon of 2-3 minute matches. I can live without them, and I have, for quite awhile. The parts of SD I catch is a good enough fix. The taped factor works to my advantage there. I don't know why so many people put so much importance in the live factor - most TV shows are recorded, does that 'take away' from your enjoyment? I agree with you Mulatto. They should definetely tape RAW. It would greatly improve the show and save a lot of $ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted April 5, 2003 If you are sick of the WWF then don't give them any money. I haven't bought a ppv in close to a year. One less buy doesn't mean anything but if you organized a boycott for a ppv it would have more of an effect than a Raw boycott. Also, there are many promotions in North America that are trying to be an alternative to the WWF. They are the ones who really need your money. For the 35 dollars you pay for a WWF PPV you could buy 3 TNA ppvs and have a 5 bucks left over. IF you don't like TNA you could buy a ROH DVD for 25 bucks. A 3PW show for 15 bucks. MLW has got a show starting up this Monday on Sunshine Network at 11 pm. There DVDs are 20 bucks each. "Reload" and "King of Kings" are both supposed to be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted April 5, 2003 I agree with Brian on this. Get a large enough amount of people not to watch, and a percentage of them will surely have cable boxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 5, 2003 If you are sick of the WWF then don't give them any money. I haven't bought a ppv in close to a year. One less buy doesn't mean anything but if you organized a boycott for a ppv it would have more of an effect than a Raw boycott. Also, there are many promotions in North America that are trying to be an alternative to the WWF. They are the ones who really need your money. For the 35 dollars you pay for a WWF PPV you could buy 3 TNA ppvs and have a 5 bucks left over. IF you don't like TNA you could buy a ROH DVD for 25 bucks. A 3PW show for 15 bucks. MLW has got a show starting up this Monday on Sunshine Network at 11 pm. There DVDs are 20 bucks each. "Reload" and "King of Kings" are both supposed to be good. Ring of Honor has DVD's out! Shit, where have I been? I'll getting all over that. Edit: Well, I couldn't find them at Amazon.com, Ebay or DVDafiction... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Go to rfvideo.com or rohwrestling.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Thanks a lot man. That's a helluva lot easier than going through each search result from google. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted April 5, 2003 I think like Brian said, y'all should just wait and see if the atmosphere of the WWE warrents a "strike" on May the 5th. I mean if Booker really is the champ and he's doing something interesting and all, then by all means watch. Lord knows Jericho consistantly entertains me, if he's in the ME I'll surely watch. But if it's the same old same old crap leading up to it, and it's just HHH vs. Goldberg or some shit, then yeah, don't watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hollywood Fashion Plate Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Ironically, May 5 is the first anniversary of the WWE name change as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted April 5, 2003 It's a WRESTLING website and RAW is a WRESTLING show. If you don't want to watch RAW that's fine but don't force other people to not be able to discuss it cause you're not happy with the product. I'm just saying if the board as a whole is going to protest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 5, 2003 Also, there are many promotions in North America that are trying to be an alternative to the WWF. They are the ones who really need your money. For the 35 dollars you pay for a WWF PPV you could buy 3 TNA ppvs and have a 5 bucks left over. IF you don't like TNA you could buy a ROH DVD for 25 bucks. A 3PW show for 15 bucks. MLW has got a show starting up this Monday on Sunshine Network at 11 pm. There DVDs are 20 bucks each. "Reload" and "King of Kings" are both supposed to be good. Unless its sold in stores like Best Buy or Walmart or Sam Goody it really does not matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMark 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2003 And Canadians don't even have MLW or ROH TV. Nor do we have a Sam Goody store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 5, 2003 I have to go with Lord of the Curry on this one: it will be almost impossilbe for a Raw boycott to have any impact at all. There's only two ways to affect the WWE that have a chance at working: 1) PPV boycott. Choose a PPV, and arrange for smarks to boycott it. The best one here might be Badd Blood--given that it's the first Raw only PPV, it'll probably get a piss poor buyrate anyway. Thus, smarks boycotting it might actually have a huge impact. The problem here? This is indirect. WWE has no way of knowing exactly which part of the product fans are unhappy with. They might just blame RVD, Jericho, etc. like they often do. 2) Organized "rebellion" at live events. This would let WWE know exactly what fans are displeased with. The problem here is that people actually would need to spend money and go to the actual events. Also, "____ sucks" wouldn't work for heels, and might only lead to a heel turn for faces. The chants that people start would need to be very "smarkish" in order to be effective--e.g., -"HHH is a politician" -"HHH only jobs to Kliq buddies" -"Undertaker: do your job" -"Nathan Jones has no talent" -"Albert will never draw" -"Hosses suck" -"Push Jericho", "Push Benoit", "Push Eddie", "Push RVD", etc. Of course lots of these don't roll off the tongue very easily, and if the chant isn't timed properly it might be incomprehensible. However if you can get a section of 20+ smarks to chant something like this all at once, and this keeps happening at house shows, it actually has an excellent shot at working. I don't see anything like this ever happening, but I think that if it did, it might work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted April 5, 2003 At a show in a town where a lot of Smart Marks live, they should print flyers that say to stage a walkout during HHH's match. Then befriend the guy in charge of concessions and food services and organizea deal where you get 25% off of your nachos and beer and whanot if bought during the HHH match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snuffbox Report post Posted April 5, 2003 What if the IWC removed the wwe's scrotum from its mouth and just went all-out bashing the product(where it deserves it) across the board. All major sites have editorials and promote boycotts and such. Flood wwe.com. Stop buying ppvs Dont go to wwe shows Quit buying merchandise Stop whining and watching at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted April 5, 2003 When my parents had to pick up a new remote at the cable company, they where asked to be nielson family. So if you have cable, and really wanna make a difference, it might be possible to ask the cable company if you can be involved in the nielson ratings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 5, 2003 It's a WRESTLING website and RAW is a WRESTLING show. If you don't want to watch RAW that's fine but don't force other people to not be able to discuss it cause you're not happy with the product. I'm just saying if the board as a whole is going to protest. Well I'm not going to since I need my weekly BookDust/Regal fix. And I doubt others will along with this either. If you pay money to go to a live event- then you're not really hurting them. Go to a live event and have a lot of fun- or else it's a waste of money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted April 6, 2003 Also, there are many promotions in North America that are trying to be an alternative to the WWF. They are the ones who really need your money. For the 35 dollars you pay for a WWF PPV you could buy 3 TNA ppvs and have a 5 bucks left over. IF you don't like TNA you could buy a ROH DVD for 25 bucks. A 3PW show for 15 bucks. MLW has got a show starting up this Monday on Sunshine Network at 11 pm. There DVDs are 20 bucks each. "Reload" and "King of Kings" are both supposed to be good. Unless its sold in stores like Best Buy or Walmart or Sam Goody it really does not matter. Why doesn't it matter? If you buy it directly from them they probably get more of the money. XPW has some DVDs in Media Play/Suncoast, Best Buy etc. if that's your cup of tea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted April 6, 2003 The problem here? This is indirect. WWE has no way of knowing exactly which part of the product fans are unhappy with. They might just blame RVD, Jericho, etc. like they often do. We could tell them. Email them, write them, get someone to report it, put it in recaps, ect. And I think a PPV boycott would be a lot better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 6, 2003 I am in shock, and the the hell, I'm in awe also. If you don't want to watch, feel free, but a few guys on the internet who do not watch it for one show will mean nothing, except make a few of you people feel big about yourselves, which is fine and all. I wish you would do it, and then that night Vince would, just in spite of you all, put out the best show in years and just go ape shit over pushing new people and the such. If you go as far to shut down this entire message board or just the WWE board, trust me on this, you will never see or hear from me ever again at TSM. Do what you want, but to not force it on everyone else who does not feel the way you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 6, 2003 If you pay money to go to a live event- then you're not really hurting them. Go to a live event and have a lot of fun- or else it's a waste of money I think chanting "Piss break! Piss break! Piss break!" during an Albert or women's match would be shitloads of fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 6, 2003 I agree with DH. Closing down the board or WWE folder because a few of you don't like the product is ludicrous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 6, 2003 If you pay money to go to a live event- then you're not really hurting them. Go to a live event and have a lot of fun- or else it's a waste of money I think chanting "Piss break! Piss break! Piss break!" during an Albert or women's match would be shitloads of fun. Piss break doesn't roll off the tounge well. I go to live events and I have a lot of fun- I don't think about who does what backstage and all that. At Survivor Series I was chanting for Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 6, 2003 If you go as far to shut down this entire message board or just the WWE board, trust me on this, you will never see or hear from me ever again at TSM. Whoo! All the more reason to do so! Just kidding DH...someone was bound to say it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted April 6, 2003 I am in shock, and the the hell, I'm in awe also. If you don't want to watch, feel free, but a few guys on the internet who do not watch it for one show will mean nothing, except make a few of you people feel big about yourselves, which is fine and all. I wish you would do it, and then that night Vince would, just in spite of you all, put out the best show in years and just go ape shit over pushing new people and the such. The whole point of this is to make it more than "a few guys". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted April 6, 2003 I wish you would do it, and then that night Vince would, just in spite of you all, put out the best show in years and just go ape shit over pushing new people and the such. Are you talking about RAW? BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites