Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Benoit 3:16 says "I just carried and put over your undeserving ass." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted April 16, 2003 It's kinda sad that they can't find a program for their hardest and best worker... I really don't care whether or not Benoit is their best worker. That's just a bonus, although a very nice one. I'm sold on the character. Yes, it's unconvential, and everything 'wrong' with what WWE wants, but I dig it. But then again I remember praise last year for the absolutely ridiculous Planet Stasiak gimmick, so I guess that's neither here nor there. That reminded me, Choken, I'm pleasantly surprised about the Tag title match booking for Backlash. Los Guerreros deserved a 2 on 2 rematch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 sounds like a good show... although I dont know about OHaire/Rikishi at Backlash, why does rikishi deserve a spot on ppv? oh well as long as SOH goes over I dont give a damn...its not Hogan/Piper... Damn the big show and his fat gay hairy friend albert to hell... the rest looks enjoyable though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 How does Benoit losing to JOHN FREAKIN CENA look good at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 By giving Benoit a push to the top and awarding him with a title it's giving the message that "if you work hard enough, you will get rewarded" - even if it's not true, it's still a morale booster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I'd rather see Cena vs. Brock than see Benoit jobbed to Brock as a first title defense victim. So it's good to have Cena/Brock at a smaller ppv like Backlash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 But that doesn't make sense. You're not happy seeing Benoit get jobbed out on PPV to the champ, but you ARE happy with Benoit getting jobbed out to the guy who will job out to the champ on PPV? Also, that man is JOHN FREAKIN CENA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Blue Bacchus Report post Posted April 16, 2003 A Decent Read so I might watch. On an unrelated note, can anyone convince me to goto Smackdown! next Tues since it's in Nashville (Where I live)? I need a reason any reason to spend money on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Right...and I thought they have nicely planted the Seeds here for the Summer Program. It doesn't matter...You bitch that Cena will be challenger for Lesnar in a throwaway match with TWO other bigger matches overshadowing it... You would've bitched that Benoit deserves to have his title shot at a bigger stage... It doesn't matter what they do....You don't like it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 If the match is long and hard fought I'm okay with furthering the "anyone can win on any given day" idea. None of the fans are gonna care about the person who jobs to Brock at Backlash in a couple of months so I say save Benoit for something big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Sounds about right. But then again, a SMART company wouldn't have put themselves in the situation to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 16, 2003 But that doesn't make sense. You're not happy seeing Benoit get jobbed out on PPV to the champ, but you ARE happy with Benoit getting jobbed out to the guy who will job out to the champ on PPV? Also, that man is JOHN FREAKIN CENA! It actually better that they Did this...No One will remember who Cena beat to meet Lesnar at Backlash... It planted the seeds for the Lesnar/Benoit program... It adds to the story that Benoit has come SO CLOSE SO MANY TIMES just to fall short and his interview Shows his dedication and desire for that title... In Sports, That storyline is the most dramatic... Which Is Why...Benoit going over Lesnar in a Clean Battle on a Big Stage like Slam would mean MUCH more then Him winning it on a throwaway PPV as a Throwaway Match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted April 16, 2003 None of the fans are gonna care about the person who jobs to Brock at Backlash in a couple of months so I say save Benoit for something big. Exactly. Was Jericho's job to Steiner in early February brought up when he went up against Michaels just a few weeks later? No, and that loss was a more decisive one. Hell, no one brings up Angle/Benoit at the Rumble on WWE TV anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 John Cena - the man who got his ass WHOOPED by the Undertaker just last week - beat Chris Benoit. John Cena - the man who got his ass WHOOPED by RIKISHI beat Chris Benoit. John Cena - the man who on two separate (or was it 3?) occasions got DESTORYED by Brock Lesnar - beat Chris Benoit... CLEAN... Smackdown: Benoits stock goes DOWN. Cenas stock goes up (just a bit) PPV: Brocks stock goes up (just a bit) Cenas tock goes DOWN Benoits stock STAYS DOWN because a)he's no where near the main event and b)is he even on the card? c)Will he be near the main event in the up coming months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 And where is Jericho now? Getting his ass beat by Test? Being the throwdoll and bitchboy for Kevin Nash? Benoit didn't come "this close" though, he got beat CLEAN by a fuckin Gimmick Wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Besides You and Us freaks here...Even remember that shit? It means Nothing... Benoit doesn't look bad here at all like Moronic idiots think he does... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted April 16, 2003 It just doesn't make sense how many times Benoit has been fucked over in the World Title picture...everywhere he's ever been. The poor guy can not catch a break. But he always plays ball and puts over less deserving guys. I'm not saying I want Benoit to be Brock's first successful defense but I am saying keep him looking strong for that push we've all been waiting for since he joined WWE that I'm convinced is never gonna come. Having him lose clean to Cena on free television is not good for him, no matter when his push or match for the title comes. If you want Cena vs. Brock at Backlash book it so that you don't hurt one of your better prospects in the process i.e. leave Benoit out of it or at least keep him away from Cena during the tournament so that one doesn't have to cleanly beat the other when you want them both to contend for the title at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 16, 2003 John Cena - the man who got his ass WHOOPED by the Undertaker just last week - beat Chris Benoit. John Cena - the man who got his ass WHOOPED by RIKISHI beat Chris Benoit. John Cena - the man who on two separate (or was it 3?) occasions got DESTORYED by Brock Lesnar - beat Chris Benoit... CLEAN... Smackdown: Benoits stock goes DOWN. Cenas stock goes up (just a bit) PPV: Brocks stock goes up (just a bit) Cenas tock goes DOWN Benoits stock STAYS DOWN because a)he's no where near the main event and b)is he even on the card? c)Will he be near the main event in the up coming months? Good explanation there..........they put themselves in a lose-lose situation by putting Cena in there too fast. If they would have waited and built up Cena chasing Brock and then FINALLY getting him at, say the first Smackdown ppv, would that make a lil more sense? All this is going to do is reinforce that Cena isnt deserving of this shot basically. And down goes the momentum of the push. And lets say if they DO give Cena the belt........well that opens up a whole other can of worms! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Um, this was a tournament where there was a focus put on the matches involved - it wasn't just a tiny match hidden in the middle of the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 16, 2003 And where is Jericho now? Getting his ass beat by Test? Being the throwdoll and bitchboy for Kevin Nash? Benoit didn't come "this close" though, he got beat CLEAN by a fuckin Gimmick Wrestler. Once Again...This Doesn't Hurt Chris Benoit at all. It only helps Cena. Whom is not a Gimmick Wrestler... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Besides You and Us freaks here...Even remember that shit? It means Nothing... Benoit doesn't look bad here at all like Moronic idiots think he does... I think it means something when Cena, after being booked to look like a lucky shot, finally beats a top star clean in Benoit. I understand they are trying to give him credibility, but this is just so wrong because Benoit does this all too much, and he's not exactly Rock material where he can afford it per-se. He was the wrong guy to throw this position to. Plus how is this supposed to make Benoit look in a future "proposed" title shot when he cant even beat the guy who is likely going to get squashed by Lesnar? That doesn't even put him close to the same level as Brock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Really? So he isn't a white oscar? He isn't PN News 2003. Yo baby Yo baby Yo? How doesn't it hurt Benoit? Did Benoit get any heat back? Do you think he will? No, he bumped his ass off to make this disgustingly bland wrestler look good and then lost the match to boot clean as June Cleavers panties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 There is just a huge gap between the Cena we saw last week and the Cena we will see this week. Are we to assume that John Cena has gotten so good in a week? Was he just hiding his real ability until now? Or are we to believe that yes, Chris Benoit is indeed that bad and it's the fact that he is a much worse wrestler than the Undertaker which led to John Cena winning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted April 16, 2003 If the Undertapper had lost cleanly to Cena it would have at least made Benoit look better this week but he didn't. I agree that this does make Benoit look weak. For a man storyline wise that'll do anything to win the title it just doesn't make sense for Benoit to lose. Nevermind an up and comer like Cena. The WWE simply booked themselves into a corner here and the undertapper certainly didn't help matters out any. Still, you have to admire Benoit's unselfishness. Some other wrestlers could definitely learn from Benoit's example. The funny thing is that everyone I watched wrestling with knew this would happen. I'm guessing that Benoit gets the victory against Cena sometime in the future probably when Benoit finally decides to go after Lesnar for the title. This should help him regain face in the eyes of the fans. Off topic somewhat is Benoit even going to be on the PPV? The only possability now is a match against Rhyno which seems dobutful or a tag match with Rhyno against Big Show and A-Train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Here are the Velocity Spoilers Rhyno beat Kanyon( no Jackie Gayda) Crash beat Funaki Team Angle beat Los Chihuahuas(No Joke) Bill DeMott beat a jobber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 The only thing this does for Benoit is add another feather in his cap about being a true motherfucking wrestling God. Does the WWE care? Fuck no. What should Benoit do at the PPV? Run in on the 6 man RAW tag and beat the living shit out of everyone there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I think its a damn near fact that Cenas push will be cut at the legs after the ppv, if not soon after. There already was discussion of whether its worth pushing him too soon last week at the taping after the lackluster match with Taker. Knowing how administration is, theres no way the push will last long, thats what makes this whole move here hard to take. Plus when a guy loses to the world champ after a month push, it clearly shows he's not ready for the spot in even the casuals eyes, and thus the push will be hurt regardless. Sure, Benoit will probably get a win over Cena in a rematch after this next ppv and whatever, but the damage is already done here, unfortunately. They better have a damn solid and secure plan of booking action if they want to make Benoit look like a fucking million bucks leading to a title match, otherwise its going to likely fall flat when the time comes to it (if it ever even happens). Shades of RVD on Raw its getting with Benoit....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I think Angle's beating Brock, around Summerslam, personally. HA! Foolish one HHH will have none of that. He shall be the first to beat Brock clean so the Clique says! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I keep going back to this, but it blew my mind then and it blows my mind now... The simple fact that they didn't hype up Benoits return last year and then turned him on the day of his return in his home town pretty much well kills any hope that I have for the WWE doing the right thing with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 16, 2003 The only thing this does for Benoit is add another feather in his cap about being a true motherfucking wrestling God. Does the WWE care? Fuck no. What should Benoit do at the PPV? Run in on the 6 man RAW tag and beat the living shit out of everyone there. I loved when they did the shit they did with Benoit and Jericho about two years ago with them kicking ass in that turmoil match on one ppv, and then of course beating HHH and Austin the next night. If they would have kept the momentum on those two (i.e. Benoit not getting injured too) against the guys like Austin and whoever else, they would have had something really special there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites