WWE should get rid of the Cruiserweight Title

[Guest Ray]

WWE should get rid of the Cruiserweight Title.

[Guest WukenBloodstar]

I know THE perfect cruiserweight champion, he can fly, do everything that a cruiserweight should...that man is...BRADSHAW! Yeeeeehhaaaawwww!

[Guest Youth N Asia]

They might as well. They never develope the divison like they always say they will

[Guest Old Brown Heineken]

I don't agree at all, I think that the cruiserweights must have a WWE title! Retiring this title would be an error, the bad move was IMO the retirement of the WWE Lightheavyweight Championship, that they should have kept, instead of the wCw Cruiserweight Title that really meant, and means by the way, nothing!

Nonetheless it's a middlecard title and taking it away would strongly penalize the light-heavy. midcarders that haven't got many chances to shine!

The best proof that Vinze never took the title seriously, and that it has a bad image now resides in the WWE never talking about any weigth limits between the lightheavyweights and the heavyweights, thus erasing the frontiers between these two divisions...

[Guest Showstoppa Icon]

I don't agree at all, I think that the cruiserweights must have a WWE title! Retiring this title would be an error, the bad move was IMO the retirement of the WWE Lightheavyweight Championship, that they should have kept, instead of the wCw Cruiserweight Title that really meant, and means by the way, nothing!

Nonetheless it's a middlecard title and taking it away would strongly penalize the light-heavy. midcarders that haven't got many chances to shine!

The best proof that Vinze never took the title seriously, and that it has a bad image now resides in the WWE never talking about any weigth limits between the lightheavyweights and the heavyweights, thus erasing the frontiers between these two divisions...

the wwe abolishing the LHW title was a good idea considering that the person who was wearing it at the time (xpac) was injured, and for the fact that there was already a CW title and Cruiserweight had a better ring to it.

 

And the reason the belt is meaningless is because of the way wwe books it, not bc of the title itself. Its on a person thats not even technically a cruiserweight. Not to mention they never follow up on angles for it.

 

Edit: also, the WCW CW title has a way more impressive lineage(eddie, rey, ultimo) than the WWF LHW(gilberg, taka, essa)

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

If mishandling a worthless title means they should get rid of it... they shouldn't have any belts in the first place.

[Adam 0]

If mishandling a worthless title means they should get rid of it... they shouldn't have any belts in the first place.

Correct. The WWE has mishandled all its other titles, from bad screwjobs to bad matches, so why should the CW Title be any different? I say keep it, and give Rey a 4 month reign to keep it alive.

[Guest razazteca]

No, just change its name to one that is not weight class based. But you never know maybe Ultimo Dragon can be the savior to kickstart the division for the 49820529035 time.

 

I never understood the reason why hoss vs small wrestler is always booked.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Cause small guys are easier to throw around.

 

The Cruiserweight title and Weight division are still good in theory and could pulled off as something other than midget wrestling, it just needs to be established as its own unique division - which the WWE refuses to do.

[JN News 0]

Vince is way too deep in love with all his Hosses to have any respect whatsoever for the cruiserweights, and the Cruiserweight Title. This all Vince's fault, and HHH, too.

 

 

 

 

 

Vince

[Guest gansobomber]

The cruiserweight title was a bad idea in the first place. The term "cruiserweight" or "light heavy weight" adds an unwanted tag to the worker that says "he's too light and will job to the heavyweights". Instead they should have gone for an X Title sort of belt that can give the cruiserweights an edge.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Disagreed. The stigma the WWE has attached and the natural attachment are two different things. Even this X title would still have the small guys seen as small and therefore lesser in the WWE. However, outside the WWE less-than-heavyweight titles are still valued due to the divisions they represent.

[Guest Vyce]

Get rid of it.

 

There was no bigger fan of the WCW Cruizerweight title / division than me, but frankly, they're not doing anything with it, and they never will. When did they start the WWF LH title? 95 or something like that? That's how long we've been waiting for them to give a serious cruizer / LH division push. It ain't gonna happen.

 

Retire the belt, put a midcard title in its place, and build up your cruizers that way by having them largely dominate the division (adding a few heavies when necessary - and heavies like Cena or Rhyno, not goddamn A-Train).

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I don't see how making another title will improve anything as long as the WWE continues to suck at handling titles and anyone under 6ft and 230 lbs.

[Guest gansobomber]

It's not the fact that people see them as small guys. I mean if that was the case, Rey vs. Angle would have been a complete utter flop.

 

The X Title is cool in it's concept (at least to me) because the smaller faster guys actually use that as an advantage to beat any big man that challenges them. The key is not to put a weight restriction. Make it a title for the cruisers where they DOMINATE. No heavy weight should be capable of getting his hands on the title. In fact make the whole cruiser division a mega stable that will pretty much perform a beatdown if any heavyweight beats a cruiserweight for the title. Give them some respect. Now THAT would be cool.

 

Or maybe just stop jobbing cruisers to the heavyweights.

 

OK ramblings over.

[Guest Old Brown Heineken]

Get rid of it.

 

There was no bigger fan of the WCW Cruizerweight title / division than me, but frankly, they're not doing anything with it, and they never will.  When did they start the WWF LH title?  95 or something like that?  That's how long we've been waiting for them to give a serious cruizer / LH division push.  It ain't gonna happen.

 

Retire the belt, put a midcard title in its place, and build up your cruizers that way by having them largely dominate the division (adding a few heavies when necessary - and heavies like Cena or Rhyno, not goddamn A-Train).

Actually the WWE started the Light Heavyweight division in 1981! Pedro Aguayo was the first first wrestler to wear the belt around his waist. Many more than decent wrestlers wore that belt (Gran Hamada, Pegasus Kid aka Benoit, The Great Sasuke, UD, Jushin Thunder Liger to name a few) and it really meant something at a moment. The fact that WWE gave it to X-Pac twice didn't ruin the belt! It's the way they used it that ruined it... Giving Duane Gill a run with it sure killed it's value...

[Guest Space_Cowboy]

They need the cruiserweight division, otherwise they'd have no one to sacrifice to the big-bad-bully-hoss push they do every month.

 

Also without a cruiserweight belt and division we couldn't hear JR/Linda/whoever blatantly lie about how the Cruiserweight division is going to be pushed and become an important part of WWE programming. They've said it just about every month for the last 5 or so years, and we're still waiting for that push to begin.

[Guest mach7]

I agree. The CW Division has been shit on by WWE. It just goes to show that Vince could care less about the smaller guys. For years WWF said that their LHW division wasn't so great, but if they had the CW guys from WCW it'd be the bomb. Well, now they have them and it still sucks!

 

I say scrap the CW Title in favour of the TV Title. At least that way there's no weight limit and you can have more people competing for it.

[Guest notJames]

The CW title is already just another midcard title, seeing as how they don't let the cruisers wrestle like cruisers. They've watered the product down to the same old "kick-and-punch" formula so much that the only difference between the heavyweight and cruiserweight matches is how tall the competitors are.

 

I thought the whole point of the CW division was to highlight the "athleticism" of the smaller guys. To tell you the truth, I don't see any distinction (barring a few exceptions of course), especially with the time-hampered matches on SD!

 

Perhaps the arrival of Ultimo will cause a shift toward the conventional CW match, although I'm not holding my breath…

 

(And not for nothing, but I hate the term "TV title". It's completely outdated in the 21st Century. Plus it sounds like you win a Magnavox after the match.)

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

But if you have a generic mid-card title that allows for more situations where Big Guys throw around Lil Guys. At least with the Cruiserweight title you are guaranteed two cruiserweights.

 

And yes, the cruiserweights wrestle just like everyone else and it fucking sucks. There is nothing distinct about the division and hasn't come close to living up to it's potential. I don't see Dragon making a difference _at all_. Say what you will about WCW, but at least they had variety.

[Guest Polish_Rifle]

They're not doing anything with the cruisers anyway. I think they should get rid of the title and bring back the European Championship.

[Crimson Platypus 0]

Really nothing will be done with the smaller wrestlers until Vince is no longer in charge.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

THE EURO TITLE?!

 

Euro Title = Instant Death for wrestlers

[ChrisMWaters 0]

THE EURO TITLE?!

 

Euro Title = Instant Death for wrestlers

Except for D'Lo Brown and Al Snow...they did well with it.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Seems like they just put the belt on someone, leave it on them, forget about it, and move it to the next guy after a feud.

 

I wish they would build it up as a legit divison. Where more then one guy is actually going after it at a time.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Oh yeah, cause coming from random places in Europe = credibility.

[Guest Ray]

Am I so wrong for wanting to go back to the old days, where there were only three titles?

[Guest vex_hecubus]

WWE should get rid of the Cruiserweight Title.

 

Yep, I said that.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I love cruiserweight wrestlers (Rey, Noble, Tajiri, Spanky, etc…) and cruiserweight matches, but the CW title has been so misused, so devalued, and so buried, it's basically worthless.

The average fan doesn’t take it seriously. Constant jobbing of cruiserweight wrestlers to heavyweight wrestlers has damaged the title beyond repair.

I also think having a weight-specific title automatically makes it a lesser title, because only a few wrestlers can win it.

 

In the Cruiserweight Title’s place, they should add an Intercontinental-type Title. There are several reasons why this title would be better than the CW Title.

Smackdown has wrestlers like John Cena and Rhyno who aren’t ready for the world title, but could benefit greatly from an IC-type title. You can’t have both Titles, because many of the IC-type Title contenders would be cruiserweights (Rey for example), and having the two titles would just devalue both. Why put the CW title on someone when the can win the IC-type title?

 

With an IC-type Title, cruiserweight wrestlers can still shine, mid-card non-cruiserweight wrestlers would have a title to chase after, and the stigma of the misused CW title would be gone.

 

 

Feedback?

That makes SOME sense but not much sense.

 

See Rhyno, John Cena and others would benefit from a IC-type championship title being issued.

 

But then guys like Brian Kendrick(I hate the name "Spanky") and various others will constantly be jobbed out to the uppercard guys...Thus many of the Cruiserweights would be completely and totally shafted.

 

If they wanted to and were able to...They could totally bring back the Cruiserweight Division. But currently right now all they make people think is that the only cruiserweights on Smackdown are: Matt Hardy(and the MF'ers,etc), Brian Kendrick and Rey Mysterio.

 

They need to have guys like Kidman, Ultimo Dragon, Christopher Daniels,etc to make it a really good divison.

 

All it takes is some people using their brains for once.

[Guest vex_hecubus]

But if you have a generic mid-card title that allows for more situations where Big Guys throw around Lil Guys. At least with the Cruiserweight title you are guaranteed two cruiserweights.

 

And yes, the cruiserweights wrestle just like everyone else and it fucking sucks. There is nothing distinct about the division and hasn't come close to living up to it's potential. I don't see Dragon making a difference _at all_. Say what you will about WCW, but at least they had variety.

Have you ever seen Cruiserweight Lucha Libre style wrestling? If you have then you'd never say that there is nothing distinct about the divison.

 

Guys like Juvi Guerrera,etc MAKE the divison...The CW divison in the WCW was perhaps one of the best things it had going for it.

 

And one of the reasons for that was because they were constantly bringing in talent. Chris Daniels, Michael Modest, Prince Iaukea, Juvi, Jushin Liger,etc

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I was strictly speaking of wwe cruiserweight style and division when I made the comment about it not being distinct... which it isn't, it's the same as their heavyweight style, their technical style, their 'old school' style, etc.