Guest TheBigCalbowski Report post Posted June 10, 2003 In terms of non-fans constantly asking why I watch, I've noticed that no matter what reason you give them, they're never satisfied so about a year ago, I found an old quote on a message board that says it pretty well. Those who understand will never need an explanation. Those who need an explanation will never. understand. I started watching when I was 9 and I was a mark until I was 18. Reason being was that I hung around with smarks a lot and learned a lot about this business. Probably Dames was the one that taught me most about this business. 5 years as a smark now. And my 18 year old brother is a smark in training right now. He doesn't surf the sites and boards, but he's getting more knowledgeable and can explain to someone why Goldberg and HHH suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Okay, I found it. This is exactly what Freddie said: "In the carnival, when I'd walk into a room where a bunch of older wrestlers were talking, the'd all say, "Kay fabe. Kay fabe." It meant, "Shut up. There's a mark listening." I've heard a couple of theories about the origin of the term. Some people say that there was a deaf and dumb wrestler named Kay Fabian, so "kay fabe" implied, "Go mute." There's another story that Kay Fabian could hear and speak, but he was a real gossip and pain in the ass, so nobody told him anything." So how do you pronounse "kayfabe"? I always tthought it way like Kie-Faybe, but if this is the case its Kay-Faybe. Which sounds so crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest crandamaniac Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I believe it's pronounce "Kay-Fayb" The only time I've heard it prounounced is from Wrestlecrap, and Gene Okerlund said it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Those who understand will never need an explanation. Those who need an explanation will never understand. Jeff Jarrett said this during that silly A&E Wrestling Documentary w. Steve Allen. I think it's bullshit. If you can't explain why wrestling is worth your time then you're not thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I try not to justify wrestlings 'fakeness' with examples of how other things are 'fake' - I prefer to let it stand on its own merit. But I'm odd like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Don't you feel smart when people who don't watch wrestling try to point out all the faults from each show despite them not watching it? Yeah, then they try to make fun of you over the internet for "supporting it" yet they have 10x more posts than you in the WWE folder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I know I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Me too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2003 You mean you two are different posters? I thought you were both the same troll. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Christ, somebody's on the rag...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 It's fun. I mean, we don't have to suffer through the bad matches, insulting storylines and angles, bad commentary, and mindnumbing gimmicks.. but we can still talk about them! Fuckin great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest TheBigCalbowski Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Those who understand will never need an explanation. Those who need an explanation will never understand. Jeff Jarrett said this during that silly A&E Wrestling Documentary w. Steve Allen. I think it's bullshit. If you can't explain why wrestling is worth your time then you're not thinking. Thing is this though. They're never satisfied. I keep explaining, however they always just repeat the same thing over and over again. It seems most likely that they're set in their own minds and won't listen to anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Wait... if we're trolls, then what are you doing right now? Uh, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Thing is this though. They're never satisfied. I keep explaining, however they always just repeat the same thing over and over again. It seems most likely that they're set in their own minds and won't listen to anyone else Well how do you explain it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBigCalbowski Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Thing is this though. They're never satisfied. I keep explaining, however they always just repeat the same thing over and over again. It seems most likely that they're set in their own minds and won't listen to anyone else Well how do you explain it? I explain to them that the reason I watch it is because it entertains me. These guys bust their ass and risk their bodies to entertain people. Outcome may be predetermined, but there is still the same potential for injury as in professional sports. Those are usually the things I say. EDIT: How did MrJag0 get on my ignore list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Probably Dames was the one that taught me most about this business. How the hell did I do that? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 EDIT: How did MrJag0 get on my ignore list? That's just a post.... Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBigCalbowski Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Probably Dames was the one that taught me most about this business. How the hell did I do that? Dames You don't remember when I was a typical mark who hated heels and loved faces? You explained a lot of things to me that I never understood before. Hell before you, I never knew the story behind the Bret Hart screw job. Then you showed me LOP and it all took off from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 10, 2003 So Jag0 is posting that way? Cause it's confusing the hell out of me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Yes, he just edited the colors in his post. Calvin, I knew you were a mark...but I didn't see any difference after I gave you a few sites. Hell, even I went to the wrong sites back then. You're still the biggest Val Venis mark I've ever known....and it scares me. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2003 So Jag0 is posting that way? Cause it's confusing the hell out of me It's an easy hack to install if Dames wants to be bothered... EDIT: These forums are phpbb correct? Here's a link to the hack: http://phpbbhacks.com/viewhack.php?id=789 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 If I were to explain why I watch pro wrestling I would get over the athletic and artistic aspects of it. Of course people won't get the "it entertains me" because that's a subjective element. You can't convince them that it's entertaining, but you can convince them that it is *good* - whether or not they like it or will like it is irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I'd rather not I turn into Auto Ban Cruise Control when I get bothered. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Those who understand will never need an explanation. Those who need an explanation will never understand. Jeff Jarrett said this during that silly A&E Wrestling Documentary w. Steve Allen. I think it's bullshit. If you can't explain why wrestling is worth your time then you're not thinking. You haven't had this problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I'd rather not I turn into Auto Ban Cruise Control when I get bothered. Dames I linked ya to it. Check my edited last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Oh...I see. You're safe then Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 10, 2003 I don't try to talk about wrestling (at least the WWE) in public. So it never really comes up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 10, 2003 Nobody cares about WWE enough to ask me questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites