Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 We had: - House Of The Dead - Underworld (Which I think looks really good) - Cold Creek Manor - The Rundown - T.T.C.M. (Which led into F Vs. J, probably because both are from New Line) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scuba Steve Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The movie was ok, in my opinion. It got really slow, and the parts with just the teens sucked. The battle ruled though. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Oh, and clear-cut winner my ass. The dream world fight was cool. As soon as the real world fight started, I expected Freddy to get his ass whipped, but he STILL fought like a fucking ninja or something. However, the only clear cut winners were the annoying teens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Freddy vs. Jason was the best slasher flick in YEARS. Great kills, great boobs, great lines, I LOVED IT. Oh and THE RUNDOWN looks incredible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Why does Seann W. Scott say "Caw, Caw, Caw, Caw" at least once in every movie. And... Nobody noticed Katie Vick ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 It's not a "black thing" when it comes to these movies. It just seems like hip hop and R&B artists are in recient slasher flicks. You had Busta, LL, and Brandy all in movies like that near the same time...and those movies also sucked, which didn't help their case. And people who are into horror films don't want to get to know the people, and could care less if they're a singer anyway. Seems like they're pissing off the die hard fans in hopes of drawing a bigger audiance overall, who aren't really into these kinds of movies, but will see them cause a singer they like is in it. And The Destiny's Child girl (I can't even dare enough to remember her character's name) would have been a bad actress in a TROMA film. She was just very very bad. I don't expect great acting in these kinds of movies, but it's bad when you can specificaly spot someone who's not near as good as everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Her name was Kia (Yes, I remember that). Let's cut to the chase... Fuck the end result. Who really won ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2003 They both did. This film will gross more then Jason X and New Nightmare combined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 I thought "who won" 2 different ways... 1, the simple way Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Jason won, he walked out of the water with Freddy's head as a trophy. And even though he was beaten, Freddy wasn't all dead (he winked after all...which was lame)...so maybe Jason won the fight, but didn't "kill" Fred or 2 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Freddy won...Jason was in an unconcious state and Freddy used him to pick up his head and get him out of the lake...so maybe Freddy won cause he had some kind of awareness to him Shit, maybe it was a draw. I'm leaning more towards the first one though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Anyone else think it was weird how close Elm Street and Camp Crystal Lake were to each other? You'd think they'd have met sooner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSA09 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Nobody noticed Katie Vick ? I did and then I told my brother and he started laughing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Nobody noticed Katie Vick ? I did and then I told my brother and he started laughing. Shit I completely forgot about that scene! Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Freddy waving her arm made the theater burst into laughter! Does anybody else think that the stoner guy was originally supposed to be Mewes but they couldn't get him for the part? Seems to be too much like Jay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Does anybody else think that the stoner guy was originally supposed to be Mewes but they couldn't get him for the part? Seems to be too much like Jay. It wouldn't be the first time that Jay was in a horror movie...well, sort of a horror movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fazzle 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 If nothing else, FvsJ should win an award for worst body double with the shower scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The theater I was at wasn't into the movie at all either. If I had seen the movie with surroundings like some of you other guys saw it in, I might've gotten tricked into liking it too. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I wasn't tricked into liking anything.....I liked it because I liked it. Deal with it. And everyone who hated this seems to be getting pissed b/c it isn't some big work of art. Well no it's not supposed to be this oscar winning movie...it did exactly what it was supposed to. And that's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 From what I've heard, it was more funny than anything else, which is a shame because it's crap like this that is passed off as horror these days. I wish slasher flicks would just pick a name for this horrid genre rather than piss on the once good name of horror, because thanks to all of these movies, many people are under the assumption that gore = horror. I'm pretty young myself, but I can trace things back to a time where horror movies were actually pretty scary and not just gory. A lot of people need to remember that "true" horror works more on the psychological level, and not the grossout level that so many of these movies work on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The theater I was at wasn't into the movie at all either. If I had seen the movie with surroundings like some of you other guys saw it in, I might've gotten tricked into liking it too. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I wasn't tricked into liking anything.....I liked it because I liked it. Deal with it. And everyone who hated this seems to be getting pissed b/c it isn't some big work of art. Well no it's not supposed to be this oscar winning movie...it did exactly what it was supposed to. And that's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't argue with Castleman. He writes movie reviews for a wrestling website. His opinions are LAW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSA09 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 From what I've heard, it was more funny than anything else, which is a shame because it's crap like this that is passed off as horror these days. I wish slasher flicks would just pick a name for this horrid genre rather than piss on the once good name of horror, because thanks to all of these movies, many people are under the assumption that gore = horror. I'm pretty young myself, but I can trace things back to a time where horror movies were actually pretty scary and not just gory. A lot of people need to remember that "true" horror works more on the psychological level, and not the grossout level that so many of these movies work on. It was laughable. I like to be scared senseless, and this couldn't get me scared at all. Since the teen horror movies have hit in the 90s, i.e. Scream, most horror movies are more comedy than horror. But the blood bath in Freddy vs Jason was very good. I agree with an award for that. But since I wasn't scared or even remotely close to being scared, the movie doesn't get anything else form me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The problem with defining horror as something that works on a psychological level and really troubles people is that type of movie is VERY hard to do and isn't limited to the horror genre. I mean, JFK is a movie that really bothered me but is that really a horror movie? Of course not. There was nothing in Freddy vs. Jason that would scare anyone over the age of 10. It's extremely hard to scare people these days, so why not camp it up with humor and over the top killings? I'm a pretty big fan of horror movies, albeit I enjoy the old classic Universal stuff more than schlock slasher movies. None of it scares me particularly, hell if they did truly upset me I likely wouldn't want to see them over and over. Horror movies have always been about bizarre camp humor, going back as far as The Old Dark House (1932). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 17, 2003 It's a slasher film...did you really expect some horrific psychological film that will shock and horrify your sooooul. The only Freddy film that was remotely scary was the first movie. Friday the 13th as a whole was a slightly scarier series, but there was nothing truly frightening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Of course it wasn't scary...but it was still just a good movie overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The theater I was at wasn't into the movie at all either. If I had seen the movie with surroundings like some of you other guys saw it in, I might've gotten tricked into liking it too. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? It means what it means. Your surroundings during a movie can have just as much impact on how much you enjoy the movie as the movie itself. If you watch something like Freddy vs Jason in a big dark theater with a big group of rabid fans hooting and hollering at the scares and the jokes and enjoying the hell out of it, you have a much higher chance of having fun with it, but later on if you sit down alone at home and watch the DVD and actually pay attention to it, you might go, this was nothing like the movie I saw at the theater. OR, you could be sitting in a theater full of people who are bored out of their mind, talking to one another, ignoring the movie, sitting next to some 10 year old kid who only shuts up when he's chomping loudly on his popcorn, listening to cell phone's ring while the house lights are left on for the entire movie and think it was the worst movie you've ever seen, but later on if you sit down alone at home and watch the DVD and actually pay attention to it, you might go, this was nothing like the movie I saw at the theater. I really don't pay much attention to the opinions right now. Right now both sides are just fired up and immediately think it was the coolest movie ever or the worst. Honestly, I think a year from now, once people have seen it more and it's aged a bit, the opinions will all change. The people that are hating will realize it's not all that bad and not the end of the world and the people that are scorching their shorts over it will come back down to earth and get closer to my middle of the road feelings, it's a cool movie, but all in all, nothing groundbreaking. It's just a lot of kneejerking right now over a movie with such a long wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insanityman Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Hhhheeyyy, these series of movies were before my time. I haven't been able to or have the means to really watch every movie of the series. How did Freddy and Jason die, what are their "powers" how did they get these "powers", and just some general information would be awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jay Z. Hollywood Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Jason was a camper at Camp Crystal Lake as a young boy, and he drowned in the lake because the counselors were too busy having sex and fooling around with each other to save him and pull him out of the water. His mother was actually the villain in the first F13 movie. Jason made his debut in the 2nd movie sans the hockey mask, which came in the later installments. He originally was supposed to be a human killer like Michael Myers, but he evolved into the undead zombie hellbeast as the series went on. PS- In terms of "pure horror" movies, nothing touches Carrie and the Exorcist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Miss Indy Queen Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Here's the weekend box office reports, I got it from e! online. 1. Freddy vs. Jason, $36.4 million 2. S.W.A.T., $18.6 million 3. Open Range, $14.1 million 4. Freaky Friday, $13.1 million 5. Uptown Girls, $11.2 million 6. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, $8.5 million 7. American Wedding, $8.16 million 8. Seabiscuit, $8.1 million 9. Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over, $5.2 million 10. Bad Boys II, $3.2 million I figured it would make around 30 million and that is damn good considered people thought it would make less than that as well as people not being able to go this weekend due to the huge power outages. A friend of mine went to the movies last night in NY and it wasn't crowded like it usually is on a saturday night. I think it'll have a strong weekend next weekend now that things are back to normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TUS_02 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 but all in all, nothing groundbreaking. Not being Groundbreaking cinematicly I agree with... but come on, the fact that Jason and Freddy shared the screen is groundbreaking in itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 I figured it would make around 30 million and that is damn good considered people thought it would make less than that as well as people not being able to go this weekend due to the huge power outages. A friend of mine went to the movies last night in NY and it wasn't crowded like it usually is on a saturday night. I think it'll have a strong weekend next weekend now that things are back to normal. Maybe at that one Theatre... I saw it twice, 12:00 PM & 2:45 PM. Both shows, good crowd, but the 2:45 showing... packed to the roof. EDIT: They are showing another Friday The 13th Marathon on Spike TV. Part VII... which I liked, is showing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 I rarely agree with Lethargic, but he's got a good point when he says that your surroundings affect what you're seeing on the screen. I was talking to a friend who saw the movie and she was saying how she laughed a lot more than she usually would have simply because everyone in the theatre was laughing. It may sound a bit conformist, but that's how it is. I, for example, love shows like the Simpsons and Seinfeld, and laugh plenty when watching them. However, get a few more people in the room and get them laughing, and you'll find me laughing more than I usually would. I enjoy to laugh regardless, but having a group of people laughing as well can not only affect how you percieve something, but enhance the enjoyment of it, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 17, 2003 The movie rocked. Gratuitous amounts of blood. Tits galore. Murder. Freddy and Jason. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): My theater popped like a motherfucker when that stupid Kelly Rowland bitch got hacked upside the head. I for one, wanted her to die because of who she is, and see absolutely no problem with that. I don't like her music, and don't care about her personally, and thought her acting was awful. The blade to the side of her head was a welcome sight. Her character was annoying, too. The place was pro-Jason for the most part, which was understandable, since his character was cooler in this one. Freddy had the brains going on, but Jason was the man of action, which appealed to the early 20's alpha males that made up the audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 Say what you want but I know what I like and I wasn't tricked into liking anything. I like what I like. Maybe some other weak minded people were tricked but I wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2003 For the record, Jason's mother worked at the camp while he was there. She was a cook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites