Who's on roids and who isn't?

[Guest wildpegasus]

Mark Henry being an olympic athlete means nothing. They know how to get by the tests. However I think Henry might be clean.

 

I think Storm's clean as well

 

Chavo Guerrero is suspect. He's actually not that small and he is acned up. You have to remember that whenever you see Chavo you're not comparing his size against normal people. You're always seeing him compared to large muscular people.

[Guest Human Fly]

Rene Dupree is not "totally" on them, he could just be taking Creatine up the ass.

If by taking a lot of creatine you could have a body like Dupree before you turn 20 don't you think alot more people would be using it?

 

The Rock was on steroids. Why else do you have to get a growth removed from your chest at such a young age? A buddy of mine told me that it was talked about in a magazine a few months back (Flex I think, but I can't remember for sure) and admitted to. I personally didn't read it, but maybe someone here did.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I thought he just got his samoan man-boobies reduced.

[Guest Choken One]

I thought that was the case as well...but then why hasn't Rosey, Jamal and Kish done this surgery as well?

[Guest Human Fly]

I thought it was a growth on his left pec, but am not 100% sure.

 

Samoans do tend to have man-boobs though so that could be it.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I love how people are so blatantly delusional to think that Kurt Angle is still on the same training regimen that he was doing for the 1996 Olympics - all the while being on the road for 200-300 days out of the year. Amazing.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Cause Rosie, Rikishi and Jamal are all fat and there is no way for them to really lose weight naturally (you know, unless they worked hard at it... judging by their ring-skills, that's unlikely) while the Rock still had semi-good genes and wasn't a pudge.

[Guest Gomezticator]

First off, there's an article in this weeks ESPN Magazine about a guy named William Llewellyn who knows how to make 200 different varieties of steroid, only 50 of which are detectable by drug tests. The article goes on to state that, as a result, many 'legitimate' athletes at all levels are getting away with using a variety of performance enhancing drugs, steroids and steroid variants included. Getting a hold of and using steroids is a lot easier than most think.

 

During Angle's face run in mid to late 2001, his upper body looked like it was gonna explode out of his skin, and during some of his run-in's he was clearly roid raging. He was much leaner during 2000, around 225 or so, and suddenly he's teasing 240? RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. The added muscle mass also probably contributed, in part, to his severe neck injury (yes, he broke his neck in the Olympics, but he also held up well through late 1999, and all of 2000, plus, the wear and tear of the full-time schedule played a part, but all the other WWE workers work the same schedule and they all don't have career-threatening ruptured cervical disks.). So yeah, he was, and probably still is, on the sauce.

 

Side effects coming off roids include your body shrinking (despite workout and diet efforts) since the size gain was entirely artificial and beyond your body's natural max, and depression. Notice that Jeff Hardy shrunk a great deal during his last singles run, and reportedly had a lot of personal problems. So I'd say Jeff was on the sauce, while his brother Matt, enjoying a relatively successful singles run and sporting a subtlely cro-magnon face with a solid B cup, was and still is. Once you get on, you basically have to stay on to keep your gains. If you read the Rock's bio, he says he did a one-week cycle and it did nothing for him: that's because, once he came off, whatever gains he got quickly disappeared.

 

You pretty much have to do it regularly once you start. And guys in the business feel the need to do it because once you hit your 20's you've stopped growing, and thus when you weight train, your body has a max, usually below the size you need to be at to get a WWE shot. Guys hit a wall and they pretty much have to turn to the sauce to grow their muscles further, albeit artificially.

 

And it's not just the men; we don't even need to point out Chyna's late 90's manly roid figure. Of all people, my mother came into the room while I watching RAW at her house a couple years back and Lita was on. She said, "Look at her chin! She HAS to be on steroids!" Excellent point: look at a few recent pictures of Lita. Even if you ignore the bulky chin she's grown (a chin she did NOT have during her ECW or early WWF days), once you look past the artificial chest-bombs you'll notice her upper body's pretty big for her size. Even if you chalk those muscles up to coincidence, explain the chin.

 

The arguments about the tough schedule and the lack of time to pursue workouts and nutrition options have been made. My best friend trained at the Shawn Michaels Wrestling Academy and spent some time on the road, and he affirms that workers pretty much have to juice just to keep their bodies up. I'd guesstimate that at least 90% of the active WWE roster is using steroids at any given time. It's almost more difficult to try and pick out the guys that are clean.

Edited June 28, 2003 by Gomezticator

[Guest lomasmoney]

in defense of the rock, the gyno is something that could have happened naturally. I'm 18 not on roids, and skinny, and i have the exact same problem as he did. I think people look at things that can happen genetically but also happen as a side effect of steroid abuse and only consider the steroid abuse as a possibility

[Guest Ghettoman]

There's a lot of things people aren't taking into consideration.

 

1, A lot of wrestlers weren't beanpoles growing up, a lot of them were naturally husky guys, tall and fat. When a tall and fat person gets into shape, there going to look like monsters, not lean athletes.

 

2, A lot of the stuff used isn't even illegal or frowned upon, so a lot of these unexplained builds can be a result of aids, but not steroids.

 

3, Body means a lot in the WWE, sad but true. Hogan was over big partly because of his physique, nowadays it's still there. IF Triple H were 30 pounds lighter I don't know if he'd even have a job. Because of this I think it's safe to say some of these guys really do spend da bulk of there free time body building.

 

If there not going through drastic physical changes like say a Lesnar, who's pretty pale, not too cut, and looks the same as he did last year, then there's no reason not to give the benefit of the doubt.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Angle is totally on them. I reckon at least 90% of WWE guys will use some sort of muscle enhancing shit.

 

The only one who I think dangerously uses them is Test. Seriously, on RAW, he looked roided to the max.

[Guest Lemon Drop Kid]

Try to find a picture of Nash when he was a crappy basketball player at Tennessee, and then look at Nash when he became a crappy wrestler.

 

Crazy roids.

[LooseCannon25 0]

So, the general thought here is that if a wrestler has ANY muscle in their body or has gotten bigger at all since freakin high school as someone stated in Nash's case, then they're automatically on roids. Sorry, but that's some dumb shit. There's called natural bodybuilding and these guys hit the gym several times a week.

[Guest EternallyLazy]

Its topics like this that just make all smart marks look like clueless fucks in the eyes of most wrestlers

 

JUST because a wrestler has an amazing body doesn't automatically mean he's on the roids. Thats fucking ignorant.

 

"hey jethro, that Angle guy is a little bigger than he was in 2000 which was just a goshdarn 3 years ago! He must be on them there steroids!"

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

There's called natural bodybuilding and these guys hit the gym several times a week.

Many people hit the gym several times a week, and don't have the dramatic changes in growth. And Gomezticator stated himself that his friend trained in a wrestling school and saw it first hand. Read Dynamite Kid's book sometime.

 

JUST because a wrestler has an amazing body doesn't automatically mean he's on the roids. Thats fucking ignorant.

 

You went from point A to point ZZ there. No one linked great body = roids without giving some supplementary observations.

 

"hey jethro, that Angle guy is a little bigger than he was in 2000 which was just a goshdarn 3 years ago! He must be on them there steroids!"

 

If that's "a little" bigger to you, then so be it. On the flip side, it is also ignorant to think that he does his extensive amateur excersises while somehow being on the road for 4 days out of the week, or to be naive and say "he has too much respect not to do them".

[Guest EternallyLazy]

I find it highly amusing that you're arguing over ignorance when you're accusing someone of steroids without any proof what so ever other than their appearance on tv. Kind of strange dontchathink?

[Guest Big_Jay101]

Goldberg dosent look like he is on roids neitehr does jericho or storm

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

And *I* find it highly amusing that you arrived at that conclusion when nowhere did I 'accuse' anyone of anything.

 

More of that point A to point ZZ thing again.

[LooseCannon25 0]

I find it ignorant that you people think you can judge these wrestlers based solely on their looks. Godforbid they bust their asses.........and most of the wrestlers even state on their sights or interviews that when they arrive at the city they're going to they hit the gym. Let's lose the ignorance here people. It makes you look silly

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Good Lord. OF COURSE they bust their asses. Did anyone say to the contrary?

 

As for gym-hitting as soon as they arrive at a city: that's a no-brainer. A "DUH" moment if you will. You'd have to be some kind of idiot to think that all it takes to get muscles is to inject something into your ass.

 

"No amount of steroid is going to give you a good body unless you worked out as well." - Tom Billington 'Pure Dynamite'

[LooseCannon25 0]

Good Lord. OF COURSE they bust their asses. Did anyone say to the contrary?

 

As for gym-hitting as soon as they arrive at a city: that's a no-brainer. A "DUH" moment if you will. You'd have to be some kind of idiot to think that all it takes to get muscles is to inject something into your ass.

 

"No amount of steroid is going to give you a good body unless you worked out as well." - Tom Billington 'Pure Dynamite'

I understand that and you're being kind of foolish by missing my point. I'm saying why can't you guys believe that ALL they do is hit the gym and bust their asses without they do anything else. And don't try to tell me how steroids work bro, i know first hand about them from friends that used them.

 

To say they are on roids because their physiques is as idiotic on your part as anything else being said.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Rock used roids when he was playing in college, he's admitted that. However, as we saw on the buildup to Rock/Brock, he certainly does bust his ass. Otherwise he wouldn't be so quick and agile. Bulking up won't make you faster or give you more agility.

 

This topic seems to creep up every 90 days or so to annoy.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I'm saying why can't you guys believe that ALL they do is hit the gym and bust their asses without they do anything else.

Because it's shamelessly naive to not even entertain the possibility, which is simply what I'm doing. Is that wrong? I guess so in your book.

 

To say they are on roids because their physiques is as idiotic on your part as anything else being said.

 

Huh? Do you mean "because OF their physiques"? You've either just totally oversimplified the matter, or you are not understanding what I'm trying to convey.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

It's clear to me that some people are in denial. "Oh no! Not Kurt Angle, he would never take steroids" If you say so guys.

 

Don't worry, it doesn't make them a bad person you know. As others have said, you still have to work hard even with the roids.

 

Lets look at Angle shall we? Steroids causes hairloss: check, injuries: check and weight gain: check.

Angle actually looked alot smaller at WM XIX, IMO. He may have got off the gas as he was expecting to have surgery or he may have not been able to work out due to his injury.

 

Now don't get me wrong. I am not saying Kurt Angle definately uses steroids, I am simply saying that from what I know about them and looking at the evidence, it is a possibility.

[LooseCannon25 0]

It's clear to me that some people are in denial. "Oh no! Not Kurt Angle, he would never take steroids" If you say so guys.

 

Don't worry, it doesn't make them a bad person you know. As others have said, you still have to work hard even with the roids.

 

Lets look at Angle shall we? Steroids causes hairloss: check, injuries: check and weight gain: check.

Angle actually looked alot smaller at WM XIX, IMO. He may have got off the gas as he was expecting to have surgery or he may have not been able to work out due to his injury.

 

Now don't get me wrong. I am not saying Kurt Angle definately uses steroids, I am simply saying that from what I know about them and looking at the evidence, it is a possibility.

Um, why would i be in denial. I could care less whether all or non of them were on the juice. Nobody said steroids makes people bad, just an assumption on your part. All i'm saying is that it's silly to think all these guys are on steroids cause they've gotten bigger.

 

By the way, Kurt angle was already losing his hair back in 2000...........You might wanna rent Royal Rumble 2000 where he fights Tazz, and you can clearly see his hairline receding back then from the front.

[Guest EternallyLazy]

I'm not saying they're on or they're not on steroids people... I'm saying that its IGNORANT and stupid to base all of this by the way they look on tv without any facts or evidence what so ever. To use the "bald, check... injuries, check... weight gain, check" theory is almost as baseless and ignorant as anything.

 

Lets face it... I challenge EVERYONE here to prove to me that ONLY steroids can give you a good physique, because although none of you have flat out said this, this seems to be the way it's going. The fact of the matter is, if you study this stuff, you'll realize that with hard work, discipline, and safe steroidal substitutes (creotine for example) you can indeed get a great looking body.

 

And of course, I'm not saying steroids dont exist, so please dont take my words out of context. I'm saying its foolish to base your assumptions on the look of someone on tv without knowing fuck about what you're saying

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Lets face it... I challenge EVERYONE here to prove to me that ONLY steroids can give you a good physique, because although none of you have flat out said this, this seems to be the way it's going.

Scroll above for the Dynamite Kid quote.

[Just John 0]

I agree with the people who say a lot of these guys are just using natural muscle enhancers. No doubt, quite a few guys are on the juice, but not quite as many as listed here.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Quote:Eternally Lazy:

Let's face it ... I challenge everyone here to prove to me that ONLY steroids can give you a good physique, because although none of you have flat out said this, this seems to be the way it's going

 

Not to toot my own horn but I lift weights and have a good physique. It can be done but I'm still far away from what would be an average physique in the WWE. Granted though I don't have good genetics as I am a very skinny person naturally. I've never used roids.

 

Another point I'd like to make. You can get to a certain point naturally which is DIFFERENT for every single person out there. However all things being pretty much equal you can surpass that point by adding some drugs.

 

Creatine is overrated somewhat. It doesn't even work for some people.

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

Someone said this earlier about Angle...

 

He wrestled heavyweight. He had no limits to worry about, besides getting as big as he could.

 

Not true. Apparantly, at one point while still in amateur wrestling, Angle BULKED THE FUCK UP just because he could, but then he realized that his increased mass meant that he lost speed, and I'd assume there'd be the risk of blowing up earlier. So he cut his weight back down so that he'd still have his speed. So it IS entirely possible that, now that Angle doesn't need to worry about how fast he can move (to a point - I mean, he can't CRAWL around the ring) he decided to put the weight back on.

 

Rey Jr: I don't care what anyone says, Rey is just a SMALL PERSON. Some people are naturally big, some aren't. Look at Rey in WCW, then look at him now. Yeah, I know, he had YEARS to bulk up, but still - those muscles do NOT look like they belong on that frame.

 

Brock Lesnar: Yeah, he's freakishly huge. But didn't he grow up as a farm boy? Honestly, that *could* explain it, because farm boys are scary people. Also, Lesnar weighed about 270 pounds when he won the NCAA championship. Is 30 pounds *that* big of a deal when you consider 3 years, plus the fact that he apparantly enjoys weightlifting, and is now in the same boat as Angle (No reason to stay at any given size)? I'm not saying that he's NOT on roids, but just because he's huge, that doesn't mean he IS.