ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 I would have an Iron Man blowaway match like i put on my card. Then Brock would face Benoit at Summerslam. If Benoit could stop jobbing to Cena and Sean O Haire that is.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 An Ironman should be used for *very* special occasions.
ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 So basically you want to have Vengeance suck to build up to Summerslam. I would have Lesnar win an Iron Man Match like i put on my card. Then Benoit could face Lesnar at Slam. If they could make Benoit credible between now and then that is.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Lesnar is not ready for an ironman.
Guest Coffey Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 What do you mean? I'm sure he has the stamina...
Guest Downhome Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Lesnar is not ready for an ironman. One of the other few times that I agree with you.
ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Angle/Lesnar is *very* special in my view. I know it would blow away the other two Iron Man Matches. Why do you think Angle kept saying Brock/Angle would be the greatest match in history?
Guest Downhome Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 What do you mean? I'm sure he has the stamina... It takes a hell of a lot more than stamina to be able to perform in an Iron Man match.
Guest Coffey Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 So I assume we're not talking about stamina then.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 What should they do? Time limit draw? --time limit draw, to build up to an iron-man match at Summerslam. --include a 3rd man in there, let him take the fall to build up to a Angle/Lesnar match-up at 'Slam. --DQ finish, though only if something major is accomplished (Brock/Angle turns heel.) --double DQ, ala Rock/Foley at Massacre 1999, possibly to set-up a safe gimmick match at 'Slam. OR.... A gimmick tag match with Haas/Benjamin v. Brock/Angle, while teasing Brock/Angle's "dissention" through the weeks leading up to it. Have Angle/Lesnar turn on the other at the end of the match, setting up a Summerslam match. Why do we want this match to be moved to a PPV where we know they won't main?
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Brock vs. Angle *right now* is not special at all. And 4 weeks is not enough hype for that sort of match. Really, they should have it the No Mercy Smackdown PPV and start it the smackdown after Summerslam.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Why do you think Angle kept saying Brock/Angle would be the greatest match in history? Yes, because if Kurt Angle said it in a kayfabed scenario, it must be true then.
ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 If Hunter and the Rock could pull off a successful Ironman why cant the more talented Lesnar?
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 The more talented / less experienced lesnar? HHH is a smarter worker than Angle and Lesnar and Rock's motor is freaky.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Why do you think Angle kept saying Brock/Angle would be the greatest match in history? Yes, because if Kurt Angle said it in a kayfabed scenario, it must be true then. Real Angle has been saying that in interviews for almost a year now
Guest Anglesault Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 So basically you want to have Vengeance suck to build up to Summerslam. No Iron Man match doesn't mean the how will suck.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 He's also said in a real interview that his Rumble match should be the greatest match of all time, and if it isn't, there's politics involved. So which is it Kurt?
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Kurt has a knack for embellishment
Guest bravesfan Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Why do we want this match to be moved to a PPV where we know they won't main? What takes main event status over it?
Guest Anglesault Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Has he said Rumble is his greatest and Angle/Brock could be the greatest?
ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 If not an Ironman then have them in some kind of gimmicked match. Have a Ladder Match and have Lesnar do a super SSP. Something awesome like that to make even a minor PPV like Vengeance seem like a good buy worth the money.
Guest bravesfan Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Have a Ladder Match and have Lesnar do a super SSP. Wow. Utter stupidity.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Can't have a gimmick match now as there is no issue to warrant it.
Guest Coffey Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 If not an Ironman then have them in some kind of gimmicked match. Have a Ladder Match and have Lesnar do a super SSP. Something awesome like that to make even a minor PPV like Vengeance seem like a good buy worth the money. There went your credibility.
ANKLELOCK Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Then have a regular match! It was just a suggestion!
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Has he said Rumble is his greatest and Angle/Brock could be the greatest? He said, the Rumble is THE greatest match of all time. More Kurt wackiness: in an interview just before his return he said he thought about not coming back until another upswing started so he could get the credit for it, and that he wants to be known as the greatest of all time - can't do that while playing Lesnar's second, Kurt.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 Have a Ladder Match and have Lesnar do a super SSP. . Because the last one went SO damn well. How about a regular match! Novel concept.
LooseCannon25 Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 You can just have Angle vs. Brock at Vengeance end up being a double DQ or double KO....and then at Summerslam: Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar (2 out of 3 falls, no dq no countout)
Guest Coffey Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 I still think Big Show/Lesnar/Angle would be fine.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 30, 2003 Report Posted June 30, 2003 A regular match is just fine. THEN you can have an issue in it that warrants a gimmick match. *Lots of guys interfere* = Cage Match. *Lesnar taps out Kurt* = Submission Match. *Double DQ* = No DQ match OR Falls Count Anywhere *Double Knock-Out* = Ladder Match, or I Quit match And you can string them together as well.
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