Guest Sakura Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Okay, so when was the last time WWE was good? Because since then, you guys just seem to bash each and everything that comes your way. Because each and everything that comes our way is crap. Wrestlemania X-7 was the last time it was great. Austin/Rock owned. Then the build to Backlash started and it died. I point to Survivor Series 2000 for when WWE jumped the shark. The night Steph took over as head writer and the night they did that horrible angle Austin killing Crips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Quote: Beer=Badass, Aldult, Macho Milk=Dorky I don't understand the problem with Angle drinking milk. Not only does it set him apart but it agrees with his charactor. He's an elite athelete who takes pride in his craft and wants to be the best ever. Drinking beer and becoming an acholic is not going to help him obtain that goal. The milk represents his dedication to a clean diet which helps keep him in shape so that he can be the best that he can be. The WWE haven't really concentrated on the milk being a dork drink lately (which in reality is really a drink more for badass, aldut, macho people while beer is for dorks) so it's okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 They are built as team mates and friends but Lesnar grows Paranoid by his buddy and turns heel and they build it to Mania... Lesnar growing paranoid and playing Savage requires him to have a personality and mic skills. So scratch that idea. You could do it with Angle but what would he be paranoid about? YOU COULD work that he's afraid of Lesnar breaking his neck again but it wouldn't work as well as Lesnar being paranoid bout losing the title to Angle...knowing he only lost cuz of a broken neck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I'm really to bet in the GOLDEN era of WWE that AS would've bitched about Bret Hart being misused. (1997 I am refering to) Nah, if the net' was as big then as it was now I'd bet most would be saying "Bret is old. Past his prime. Holding down new and younger talent. Had his run. Can't draw. Uses his family to stay over, etc." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Eddie's always been one of those wrestlers that should only stay a heel. Well, he is an awesome heel (Top 5 ever) but he was over as a face, and extremely entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I can't remember WWE ever putting over his milk drinking as something noble and good. It's always just been goofy and "look at how much of a dork he is!". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Quote: Beer=Badass, Aldult, Macho Milk=Dorky I don't understand the problem with Angle drinking milk. Not only does it set him apart but it agrees with his charactor. He's an elite athelete who takes pride in his craft and wants to be the best ever. Drinking beer and becoming an acholic is not going to help him obtain that goal. The milk represents his dedication to a clean diet which helps keep him in shape so that he can be the best that he can be. The WWE haven't really concentrated on the milk being a dork drink lately (which in reality is really a drink more for badass, aldut, macho people while beer is for dorks) so it's okay. While I agree with you there...We've been trained (and not just by WWE mind you) that REAL MEN drink and kiddies drink Milk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Okay, so when was the last time WWE was good? Because since then, you guys just seem to bash each and everything that comes your way. Mania X-Seven I don't understand the problem with Angle drinking milk. Not only does it set him apart but it agrees with his charactor. That of a dork. Drinking beer and becoming an acholic So, anyone who drinks socially is a drunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted July 6, 2003 All this thread needs now is RRR, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I guess the wedge between the brands continues. On RAW it's cool to drink beer. On Smackdown it's cool to drink milk. I suppose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Show is in the match so that neither Angle or Lesnar have to job. So, I dont think this is the worst feud ever or anything. Neither of them will lose much from it, and one of them will turn heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Why does it have to be Big Show? If they want to save Brock/Kurt why not just book something entirely different? Like Brock vs. Rhyno vs. Benoit or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I'm a little confused. I'm not really a beer drinker. But if I have a glass of wine or a Pina Colada, am I a lifelong in and out of AA drunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 6, 2003 So, you want Benoit to be the jobber? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 All ya gotta do for the match is the Armageddon finish. Lesnar gets Chokeslamed onto a Chair...Angle stops the count and whips TBS to the ropes and hits a Top rope AngleSlam...Lesnar goes the Angle roll arm over and 3 count finish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle had the fued growing at the beginning of the year. Put on a really match at WM. Brock won, they showed sportsmanship at the end (something I hadn't seen since WM VI). People liked that, people like Kurt so Kurt comes back, he's cheered along with the fact he had been gone since WM. I don't mind the friendship angle, but with AS bitching about everything, how could you make it "better" ? What would you do? Also take in mind, Heyman's out of the picture, Train/Show split up, and Team Angle in no longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I'm a little confused. I'm not really a beer drinker. But if I have a glass of wine or a Pina Colada, am I a lifelong in and out of AA drunk? No...We're clearly refering to WWE promoting Austin as a Ultra cool guy whom is clearly a An drunk... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted July 6, 2003 So, you want Benoit to be the jobber? Sure. I'd rather see him job than Big Show in the main event. It's not like jobbing to Brock in the main event of a ppv is going to hurt him. He jobs to the BASHAM BROTHERS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle had the fued growing at the beginning of the year. Put on a really match at WM. Brock won, they showed sportsmanship at the end (something I hadn't seen since WM VI). People liked that, people like Kurt so Kurt comes back, he's cheered along with the fact he had been gone since WM. I don't mind the friendship angle, but with AS bitching about everything, how could you make it "better" ? What would you do? Also take in mind, Heyman's out of the picture, Train/Show split up, and Team Angle in no longer. Refer to my FB on page one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Another question If making them idiots who play pranks on eachother is the only way to sell a PPV between two faces, why didn't Mania X-Seven BOMB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I'd rather Benoit won for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted July 6, 2003 So, you want Benoit to be the jobber? Well, he... Ah fuck, it's just too easy. You can probably figure out what I was going to say anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Quote Anglesault "That of a dork" I knew you'd pounce on that! I left it open just for you! Quote "So anyone who drinks socially is a drunk?" I was just comparing him to Austin Quote: Choken One "While I agree with you there...We've been trained (and not just by WWE mind you) that REAL MEN drind and kiddies drink milk" Yes, that's true but I was thinking that the average viewer would be able to look past that concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Show is in the match so that neither Angle or Lesnar have to job. So, I dont think this is the worst feud ever or anything. Neither of them will lose much from it, and one of them will turn heel. We can only hope. I always thought Lesnar was better as a heel and Angle as a face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 6, 2003 making them idiots who play pranks on eachother is the only way to sell a PPV between two faces, why didn't Mania X-Seven BOMB? It's not really an issue, because neither Angle or Lesnar draw anyway. Nobody really does in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted July 6, 2003 , how could you make it "better" ? What would you do? Also take in mind, Heyman's out of the picture, Train/Show split up, and Team Angle in no longer. Why can't they be two guys who are not friends and don't really like each other but they do have respect. No silly antics, no smiling, no storyline. They just want to be champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 6, 2003 I'm a little confused. I'm not really a beer drinker. But if I have a glass of wine or a Pina Colada, am I a lifelong in and out of AA drunk? No...We're clearly refering to WWE promoting Austin as a Ultra cool guy whom is clearly a An drunk... I'm talking about the guy who said Angle drinking a beer will automatically make him a drunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Because it was the biggest two names in Wrestling and wrestling was on the last spot of popularity. and who stays it's the way to sell it...I was just saying that per usual you have overblown your gasket yet again for one night where they were clearly showing the friendship of the two...If it continues then you have your case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted July 6, 2003 Quote: Choken One "While I agree with you there...We've been trained (and not just by WWE mind you) that REAL MEN drind and kiddies drink milk" Yes, that's true but I was thinking that the average viewer would be able to look past that concept. You're giving the average viewer far too much credit to be able to do that. It's not really an issue, because neither Angle or Lesnar draw anyway. Nobody really does in WWE. Yeah, I mean more people watch a one-legged guy, and said amputee is the focus of the show, not the two who are supposed to be the saviors of the Smackdown brand. Can't get more fucked up than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted July 6, 2003 If making them idiots who play pranks on eachother is the only way to sell a PPV between two faces, why didn't Mania X-Seven BOMB? Rock and Austin didn't act like idiots. People expected The Rock to turn heel then. The card was all around built better. It was WM which will usually draw well on it's own and Lesnar & Angle aren't near the draws Austin and Rock were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites