Guest Ripper Posted July 15, 2003 Report Posted July 15, 2003 No, that's basically the point. People beat their friends in fighting games and think they're the master. Like somehow their friends must be the end all be all of the game and beating them is a huge acomplishment. But that isn't always true if you learn the timing on counters. No matter who you play, the animation is the exact same when they try the exact move. If you so much of a loser that you spend god knows how many hours learning to read the animations to each characters moves(like I did) then it doesn't matter who you are fighting, you can counter it. If they can't hit you, they can't win. Yeah people hate fighting me but get over it and get better.
Guest KoR Fungus Posted July 15, 2003 Report Posted July 15, 2003 There's no way you can learn the animation of every move of every character in a game as deep and involved as VF4. Trying to read what the opponent will do and counter it is fine as long as you're playing people who use a predictable offense, but I seriously doubt that would work at a tournament. The only way to know for sure is to get out there and play people outside of your group.
Guest Ripper Posted July 15, 2003 Report Posted July 15, 2003 The last time I played a huge number of people was in Virtual Fighter 3 and I lost one round with some guy using Akira...and that was with the time running out. This was at a tourny at a gamestore here in Atlanta. I haven't played VF4 as much, nor will I get a chance to, so the chance that someone could beat me in that is believeable. In Virtual Fighter 3 down, I can eat anyone alive. Call it the old animation techniques, but you can read if it will be a high, middle or low attack EVERY time in those games if you know what you are looking for. At that point it really doesn't matter what they do, you know where its coming from. Its probably the animator in me that sees where the motion capture data starts and know whats coming. And true, I am good in other games but know I can get my ass handed to me. But using Pai I can say that I have mastered that character. I am pretty fucking good with others but not like I know her.
Guest Sakura Posted July 15, 2003 Report Posted July 15, 2003 The thing is, there's tons of people just like you that think the exact same thing. Until you've played real, high level competition you shouldn't be claiming to be a master or unbeatable. The bottom line is, and I don't want to be too mean, but even if you really are the world's greatest, saying this stuff when you're not backing it up by winning big tournies just makes you look like a scrub.
Rendclaw Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 I used to play SF (II, CE, Turbo, SSF, SSF2T) and I basically took Sagat and played defensively, the only way people could beat me was with cheap ass throw combos. Anytime I had someone pinned in the corner or was using my Tiger Shots to my advantage and they bitched about it, I would let up. but they still had major trouble against the combination of reach and power that Sagat had, never mind when I actually started suing combos against them.. I considered myself a good SF player and pretty close to mastery of Sagat. My roommate used to beat my ass with Blanka regularly and she was VERY good, but she stopped playing against me one day after I Tiger Uppercutted her out of a Beast Roll for the win.
Rendclaw Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 Nah. Only scrubs use Ken or Ryu and jump in with a jab, then throw their opponent when they block it..... or corner pin someone with the Wind Kick or Hundred-Hand Slap and drain their meter.
Guest Renegade Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 I was kidding btw, just alot of Sagat players piss me off in CvS2 with his insane priority. And I actually dont find throws a scrub trait nowdays, if someone keeps throwing you that means you havent mastered counter throws yet. It's like someone walking into a hadoken instead of blocking.
Guest HartFan86 Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 GTA:VC--I was running from the cops. I come up on a group of 5 Cuban Gangsters. The cop tries to punch me, misses and hits one of the Cubans. All 5 turn around and fill him full of lead. Funniest thing I've ever seen. I died laughing at this. Thanks for my laugh of the night.
Rendclaw Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 Not when you;re playing a game that doesn;t include counter throws.... Yeah I noticed that they Sagat some priority when I blew through CvS2... I think I was playing Ryu, Chun-Li and Sagat.
Guest Breetai Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 Sagat>*. Any character capable of doing a 17 hit combo that drains half your life meter is worthy of respect.
Rendclaw Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 Sagat was someone to be feared in the early days, then SSF2 came around and the playing field was pretty level. I used to take perverse pleasure in hitting a well-timed Tiger Uppercut and watch 35% on their meter go bye-bye, knocking them off the machine.
Guest Special K Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 In claiming to be 'the master'. I second that. it's pretty stupid to do, since there are kids who are INSANE at fighting games. I was probably tied with my best friend for best at Tekken 3 among our circle of friends, and effortlessly beat everyone I knew who played the game at college, and many I didn't since we had Video Game Tourneys on the first floor of our massive freshmen dorm. Yet, playing in the arcade against the real diehards, I'd win maybe one out of 5 times, and feel pretty happy at that. Marvel v Capcom is probably the starkest example of this. The rankest novice can occasionally get a win against a good player in Tekken or VF, I think. But my friend could dominate me with Kobun, Dan, and Roll in MvC2. I'm above average at the game. He met a guywho launched endless charges and anti-airs, and if one assist hit, Magneto (I think)would launch an endless combo that led to death. It was ridiculous. Ohm and I concur that everyone thinks they' re just SO great at GoldenEye. I suck at that game.
Guest Renegade Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 Not when you;re playing a game that doesn;t include counter throws.... Yeah I noticed that they Sagat some priority when I blew through CvS2... I think I was playing Ryu, Chun-Li and Sagat. Thats why I said nowadays, although you can kinda counter throw in some of the street fighter 2 games. As for Sagat's priority in CVS2, just use his crouching fierce punch and you'll see what I mean.
Guest DVD Spree Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 The older I get, the more useless I become at fighting games. I don't understand why - just seems that every time I play Tekken these days, I just can't keep up with the whippers. Except for wrestling games, but I don't count them as fighting games.
Guest Prototype450 Posted July 16, 2003 Report Posted July 16, 2003 I was playing Vice City and was speeding around on the sidewalk. The cops start chasing me. i was in a stinger. They set up a road block as i was being chased through the area with the dock workers. A packer(those trucks with the ramps on the back) A drove at and jumped of the road block. I kept drving straight towards a dock near the water. The cops were right behind me and I bailed out and my stinger and the cops drove into the water. Then another cop car came at me then I got the Machine Gun and shot him and the head. i dodged the car as it rolled into the water. I had to find a car quick so i could get away from the cops. Another cop car came and I gunned them down with my Machine gun. I needed ammo and health. I got some shotgun shells and took the cop car the to the mansion. When I pulled up to the mansion a cop pulled out the spike strips. All the tires were gone. I ran and picked up some ammo and armor. I ran through mansion up to the roof to my helicopter. I picked up some slo mo pill and instead of the health. I kept aiming at and killing the Mario guys. So I had no ammo and i had to kill the cops with my hands. I dropkicked two of the roof but one wasted me. And I fell off the roof and slow motion
Guest Renegade Posted July 17, 2003 Report Posted July 17, 2003 Tall blad guy with the scar across the chest and an eyepatch
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