Guest The ChriZa Report post Posted July 12, 2003 The pic in the referee shirt makes it look like the guy next to you is trying to cop a feel on those nuts. That's awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cue_meanie Report post Posted July 12, 2003 That shit's GOLDEN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Yeah. Why is your hand slowly creeping towards your dick in that photo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The ChriZa Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Well, hockey IS an exciting game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 You get SPRUNG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The ChriZa Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Only around here could a heated religious debate completely shift gears and end up focusing on one man's penis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Hey ChriZa you started the penis thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The ChriZa Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Hey ChriZa you started the penis thing! HOW DARE YOU First of all, I don't want to see the sentence "Hey ChriZa you started the penis thing!" EVER again. Secondly, I was just pointing out the fact that it was apparently a photograph of his forthcoming molestation. His penis was simply a detail of the observation. If anything, his penis got in the way. I've just typed the word "penis" more times in this post than I have in my entire life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted July 12, 2003 (edited) EDIT: I edited a personal comment out, because it was made in haste and wasnt what i wanted to say...what i wanted to say is below. thanks to godthedog for pointing out what i said, hopefully what i said below is truer to my feelings Edited July 12, 2003 by Big Poppa Popick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Oh, please. In all honesty, SP shoves religion down everyone's throat. Marney made a decent point, and having one's faith challenged should be common practice in America; if you truly believe, you should be able to back it up quite easily. Regardless of the fact, debate shouldn't be cause to say "The board is going downhill" That's absolutely absurd. Just because one person gets flamed, you go and say something like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 12, 2003 http://web.recorder.ca/~moysey/me01.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted July 12, 2003 **Sighs** Okay, Tyler and anyone else wondering why I made this post. Extreme apologies if I come off sounding pompous, self-indulging, etc. This is just what I think and believe. To begin, I would just like to recall that I've had quite a personal stake in TSM, to the tune of a bit of money. Dames is now the full owner after changing servers, the old TSM server being in my name. It is because of this, and of how things began in TSM that I feel a sense of biding care towards this place. Mostly now I spend my time in the OaOasT, doing what I like doing. When, in the matter of one month, I see criticism of board members reach an all time high, not projecting what i think our goal is stated to be of a "community", I get worried. When, in a matter of one month, more people are banned for near questionable, or morseso, quasi-bullshit quasi-truth actions, I get worried. When, in a matter of one month, I get more PM's, AIM's, and other communications about the state of the board than I had gotten my entire time before here, from people I never talked to, I get worried. You can call this the straw on the camel's back. After reading this, I realize what I hadn't realized before, when we created NHB. That it was a very vehicle for the unraveling of our board. That, by purposefully allowing for "non-constructive" criticism, we make ourselves look, well, like idiots. Now, I'm not saying anything bad about Marney, Spiderpoet, Barron, or anyone else involved in this thread *you three seem like the main ones*. But it's this complete lack of regard for anyone as a human being that's come onto this board recently in the tone of many people, that I'm coming to the realization that I do not like the direction this board is headed. Simply, put, reading this whole thread tonight, just makes me wonder why it's possible for our board to have gotten to the point where posters truly and legitimately "hate" others whom they've never met or ever heard the voice of. How we, sitting in front of a keyboard and computer with time on our hands, can react so angrily and vehemently. You'd think there would be time enough for everyone to form something of civil discourse. I don't like this "angry TSM" I think it hurts us, the community Dames, William, and myself said we wanted to create. I am NOT saying that we all need to sing campfire songs and be happy with each other, or all agree with each other. I believe that there are many other ways to disagree, and disagree well, that would create a more hospitable environment on this board for old and new posters, and probably we'd have alot of less issues with bannings, people purposefully causing trouble *real trolls*. After a year of not doing shit but helping to pay for the site, I guess I realized that maybe it's time for me to actually ohh, say what I think and maybe work with Dames on making TSM better, like I always said when we were together on this. Maybe it's a case of too little too late, but I think we all have seriously strayed away from what TSM was supposed to be, and I think, in the end, that it's a problem of unrestrained negativity towards each other. Just my two cents, that's all this is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 12, 2003 just for the record, nothing pisses me off more than having my faith "challenged," "argued against" moreso than someone who just blindly disagrees with it its just as bad as anyone who blindly follows a religion. wait a second...you're saying that people who actually give arguments against your religion are worse than the people who just disagree, and that making arguments against your faith is just as bad as blindly following a religion? this makes no sense to me at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted July 12, 2003 eh, just read the above post that i made thats really long i think i was pissed off when i said that, and i said it wrong, so just ignore my first post err, ill just edit it to point to my second post thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 12, 2003 gotcha. i was worried there for a second. carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Don't take this thread so seriously BPP. If a flaming thread in NHB results in you talking about Dames about "changes" that need to be made- THEN this board is truly fucked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 12, 2003 I don't think anybody on this board hates anybody else. I think some posters are lacking in maturity and others are quite deluded, but I don't hate them for it. I think a change that would work a whole lot better for this board rather than getting rid of NHB (which really doesn't get that many posts a day anymore really) would be implementing an ignore function. As the board currently is, you have no way to "turn the other cheek" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 12, 2003 it isn't JUST this flaming thread. he gave a plethora of reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 12, 2003 it isn't JUST this flaming thread. he gave a plethora of reasons. It seems like this thread was the straw that broke the camel's back though. Isn't this thread what NHB was created for? I think Popick is just upset there's a picture of Tim Moysey playing with himself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 12, 2003 He said that by creating a flaming board he's in essence given the posters the power to destroy the board. I don't think there's that much activity here to warrant any truth in that but whatever. He talks about how some people are so argumentive with not a thought of others feelings. This isn't exclusive to the flaming board, though. Some posters (eyes roll to Marney) have a habit of laying in some blows whenever they reach a disagreement with someone. I tend to go over the edge and try and prove people wrong, but I'm not afraid to call an idiot an idiot and move on. I will admit there is a whole lot more banning going on here than need be, but there's also a lot more idiots, gimmick posters, people who flame other people above and beyond the spectrum of what's dismissable and others who are too crazy, wacky, creepy or blindly ideological (not just talking religion here.) That means more bans are going to be handed out as more posters come, more people act out, Dames gets more pissed off, and more rules are added. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted July 12, 2003 To begin, I would just like to recall that I've had quite a personal stake in TSM... Since you haven't let anyone else forget in the last year or so, I can't see how you'd possibly need to "recall" it now. I'd take you more seriously, Popick, if you didn't preface almost every post by sucking your own cock so much. "I saved," sorry, "i saved the board... now everyone bow down... and kiss my dick." Get over yourself already. The rest of us have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 This is about seeing all the little Marney bitches (YPoV, BB) from the Church of Marney, clap their little hands every time she spewed her special brand of pedantic garbage like some creature from the movie "Aliens." Marney, you said you wouldn't flame someone for saying there was no God because it couldn't be disproved. Can it be disproved that there IS a God? I mean you can't cite lack of proof because proof denies faith and without faith, there is no God. This is an honest question; do you really have some sort of problem with me? It seems like when you get the chance you try to get a dig at me, and show it off to others. Your first insult told me that I should keep the oral sex in PM, whereas it was simply a compliment towards her. Than, you pull this nonsense and call me a bitch for trying to have an intelligent discussion with her. Have I ever said anything that necessarily agreed with her attacks against SP in the thread? Nope, I'm just trying to turn this thread into something meaningful. I also vaguely recall you calling me one of the worst posters of the forum in a thread you started awhile back, probably trying to get people to agree with you once more. Again, people called it a failure and said it wasn't entertaining. I was happy when I was indirectly listed as one of the reasons as to why you left the board. Than you came back. If you're going to try to throw something my way, please try and make it sound intelligent, because it gets tiring listening to you babble on and on, in the effort to flame me. It's not working. Really. Want to try and say something worthwhile? Or are you going to keep on with the shitty flaming? Seriously, I'm curious as to why you seem to have this sort of issue with me. By the way, I wasn't using the Purgatory thing as a way to knock the church, just as an interesting factoid. The church still did that after the Dark Ages ended however. Of course, common misconception is to group the Dark Ages with the ENTIRE Middle Ages, when in fact they ended around the time of Charlemagne's reign. But he was French, and they never get any credit, so people tend to forget that part. Just to point out, I still think Spiderpoet is a pretty cool guy, since he's never done anything to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted July 12, 2003 To begin, I would just like to recall that I've had quite a personal stake in TSM... Since you haven't let anyone else forget in the last year or so, I can't see how you'd possibly need to "recall" it now. I'd take you more seriously, Popick, if you didn't preface almost every post by sucking your own cock so much. "I saved," sorry, "i saved the board... now everyone bow down... and kiss my dick." Get over yourself already. The rest of us have. Dr. Tom, and to anyone else with that said opinion, When I wrote that post, I specifically prefaced it by saying I was not trying to be pompous. The only reason I referenced my involvement was to show how personal what I wanted to say is. It was not done to shove that down anyone's throats, it was not done to make me "superior". I know in the past I probably was guilty of a "holier than thou" attitude, but I think that was just me in 2002. I've tried to correct said actions this year, and I'd like to think I haven't done anything as snootish as that. Your post however, brings up a good point that I was illustrating. I didn't post what I said looking to be cussed at, and I think most people reading that would just see that a) Popick cares about the board b) He wanted to share his feelings c) He wanted feedback So, sorry that you felt like cussing at me in response to a post that wasn't exactly me acting like Napolean. As a *personal* aside, I see no reason why you, a moderator, had to take the low row when you're supposed to help set a higher standard than bickering. In response to Barron, I was not just referring to this thread, but alot of what has been posted over the last month. When I referred to it as "the straw" I merely meant that I finally decided to say something. I think Jobber got it right, there's a certain lack of maturity that has come onto this board, I feel, in recent days. An ignore function I wish could work, lol, but if he means that we just don't see posts made by someone *like in aim chats* I am certainly not against that. Some people just can't seem to co-exist with others on this board, and Im always baffled as to why When I stated that having a flaming forum allows posters to "destroy", I think my meaning is that, while Jobber is completely correct in that the "actual flaming" is low, the threads that do contain flaming are quite nasty and stay with us for a long time. I can understand someone coming on here and saying, to summarize "I don't like what TC said about TrebleCharged, or his attitude." But for the level of vehement on here recently, it seems a bit overboard. *Shrugs* I just can't see how people can get so pissed off when we're pretty much just nerds sitting in front of a computer screen at home or at work bored out of our minds. TSM was, from the start, supposed to be a community. I'm well aware that communities will have problems, but this seems like LA's smog problem, our chronic hatred of posters just doesn't seem to go away. I think its that trend that I have a concern with. I have no real "ideas" to solve it. Heck, I don't know where to begin. It was just something I wanted to air out with Dames, and I guess right now, the rest of the board. And Barron, I wasn't upset about Tim Moysey pleasuring himself. It was quite a turn-on Tag. ~SJP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Fucking hell, sign me up to the "this thread is Gh3y" line of thinking. Its hyper-quadro-spazzmodic ghey. I've come to the stunning conclusion that religious arguments are both horrificially boring and also as painful as being skullfucked by a man with a molten-hot, lava-jizz dripping razor sharp penis. All the cock-gobbling only enhances the effect to levels of outstanding twattery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 I still want to know how I've "shoved my faith down people's throats". If you're assuming I have because some Christians do, then you're making a quite incorrect assumption. If you mean I've contributed to discussions with comments backed my my personal beliefs (which you do, marney does, Dames dones, Bob Barron does, every single person here does), then sure. But if you go that route, it means that you've shoved your beliefs down everyone's throats, Marney has, Tom has, Bob Barron has, BPP has, Zack Malibu has, The Dames has, every single person has. So, unless you can find a post where I have literally condemned the people of this board to an eternity in Hell, where I have demanded that everyone see things my way, etc., then I'd say that you need to go back and figure out just what you're getting at. The day that your beliefs no longer are allowed to shape your world view is the day that you should just give up on this whole living thing, because you then have zero psychological foundation upon which to operate, regardless of what you believe. You'd be a vegetable, an invalid. So, Tyler, please show me where I've forcibly demanded that everyone on the board become a Christian or DIE~!. I'd love to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Calm down Spidey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Good thread. There have been alot of good points by Marney and SP, but Sp is still spouting the same dribble I have heard my entire life. And if anybody else out there believes that a Jewish carpenter can rise from the dead, I have some ocean front property in Tennessee I'm selling dirt cheap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted July 12, 2003 good thread my ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Unless he brought that up in argument I don't think that you should criticize him for it. SP's brought it up in countless arguments, threads concerning abortion being the most obvious example. If you don't mind me asking, what was the cause for you to become atheist, and to revert back? 9/11 was a big one. "If we believe absurdities," Voltaire said, "we will commit atrocities." On September 11, suicidal Islamic radicals, their heads stuffed with absurdities, committed the most appalling atrocities. And what are we told to do in response? Trot out our own absurdities: Turn to God. Pray to God. God listens. God cares. Does He really? If so, I'd really like to see Him get off His ass and prove it once in a while.Reversion was probably just weakness. I want to believe. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you're essentially saying that you felt that we are not saved by Jesus in a supernatural sense, but just by his example of death? Yup. Supernatural salvation is worthless. The only salvation that matters is the kind you earn. Are you trying to say that we should follow him by example, as opposed to believing that he did hold some supernatural power in bearing our sins? Yup. In a sense, does that mean that you are straying from the basic concept that he is the Son of God, or just the concept that he died for our sins? It doesn't matter whose son he was. The only thing that matters is what he did. Okay, now you're REALLY confusing me. Jesus was unjustly put to death, would that make him more wretched than Pilate or any of those guys? I don't think Pilate was executed; wasn't he just recalled at some point? Anyway, no - Socrates said that it was the man who put someone to death unjustly who was more wretched than the man put to death unjustly. Therefore, in terms of wretchedness: Pilate > Jesus the Four Gospels are excellent, credible sources of the life of Jesus. I wouldn't say "credible;" they were written over half a century after his death at the very least. But they are superb moral guides for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Marney, you said you wouldn't flame someone for saying there was no God because it couldn't be disproved. Can it be disproved that there IS a God? Absolutely not. I would never flame anyone just for saying anything about the existence of God either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
