Kobe Admits He Injected His Salami In That Girl

July 23, 2003

EAGLE, Colo., July 22 — The 19-year-old woman who accused Kobe Bryant of sexually assaulting her attended a party just days before charges were filed against Bryant and appeared to be in a good mood and “bragging” about the incident, several teen-agers at the party told NBC News on Tuesday. Another friend told the Associated Press that the woman had “visible evidence” of the alleged attack a week later.

Source: NBCsports.com

July 23, 2003

Another dagger for the Defense team. This girl is toast; it's quite obvious that her sole purpose is to extort money from the NBA's most premiere player, Kobe Bryant. I hope this whore goes to prison for falsely incriminating an innocent man.

July 23, 2003

I guarentee that the Defense doesn't even bring this crap up. You are starting to see the attention seekers jump out of the woodwork on this one. These people are just more people that want to have a interview on good morning america or dateline now and it is just getting pathetic. From her "friends" that said she was trying to get famous to her "friends" saying she would never make this up, to Kobe's ex-girl saying he could never do this, to the eventual ex-girl that will say that he could(oh, its coming) a lot of attention seekers will be out in full force on this one.

I mean really, using common sense here. You have a girl that says she was raped, and for the most part, she is not believed and ran down by the country without anyone knowing the facts. What type of fucking retarded fucker would go to a party and brag about Kobe's body to a bunch of basically strangers (that little fucker on the news admitted that he didn't even know her.) REALLY. WHAT FUCKING RETARD WOULD DO THAT?? If she is after money, which for some reason people seem to want to believe, then what sense would this make.

And the "vacation" she took with her family was more of getting out of town when the press came swooping down, dude. This is no more or less of a indicator of what happened. A prosecuter worth half a shit will eat that little fucker that claimed she said these things at the party apart.

And as for Kobe and his protestations of fidelity...HE was constantly bringing up how much he was against cheating. HE would bring it up in interviews. No reporter asked him "So Kobe, you fucking around on your wife?" He would bring it up, more posing to keep his marketable image of the ultimate good guy out there I believe, and put himself on a pedistal because of it. Then this thing that he so passionately brought up all that time is disproven, I'm suppose to say "Aw, poor thing couldn't keep his dick to himself. Poor guy." NO!!! I had the same disgust when Jesse Jackson was going to counsel Bill Clinton on his infidelity to tell him why it was wrong, all the while he had some woman and a child on the side. FUCKING HYPOCRITES.

And even more disgusting is that neither takes total blame. Yeah, they say "My, fault....BUT...I AM a man." Fuck you. I'm a man and I manage to keep my dick to myself...I am sure there are NBA players that face the same thing he faces and keep their dick to themselves. This has nothing to do with him being a man. This has to do with KOBE BRYANT and his mistakes and sexual infidelities. No it isn't my place to forgive or whatever, that is his wife's. But it is a insult to me as a human and a man for him to say that his cheating was partly attributed to him being a man. BULLSHIT.

July 23, 2003

Another dagger for the Defense team. This girl is toast; it's quite obvious that her sole purpose is to extort money from the NBA's most premiere player, Kobe Bryant. I hope this whore goes to prison for falsely incriminating an innocent man.

Post like this continue to support my belief that people are at the core purely retarded.

And they wonder why so many rapes go unreported. These reports of her bragging at the party have no more validity than the ones that Kobe raped her...oh...wait...there is apparently medical evidence and a DA that say there is a chance that something happened there. These reports hold less validity than those. Plus everyone is chosing to ignore the "reports" that the Bruises are still apparent a week later. Notice how I haven't chosen to point this out as proof Kobe did it because all these stories are just attempts by media hungry hanger-ons to get their 15 minutes. You know nothing about the case outside of what the DA has told you and the doctor reports that she took too many sleeping pills 2 months ago. The info that we know to be facts end here. Every time some uninformed simpleton calls this girl a whore or slut, you just go to prove even more how fucked up society is.

People, there is a chance that a 19 year old girl was raped. Her life will be forever changed, rather it is true or not. Everyone is jumping to the side of Kobe Bryant, a person you know NOTHING about, because he plays for the fucking Lakers. This is bigger than basketball. I hope he didn't do it. From what I have seen of him, I don't think that he would do it. But from what i have seen of him, he wouldn't be in this situation. From what I saw of Michael Jordan, I never would have guessed he was a violent, cheating, gambling addict. But we don't know these people because we saw them score 50 points. There is a even chance that this happened and that it didn't. People continue to show their ignorance when they say shit like "Now there is no doubt this whore is trying to get money" because there IS a very BIG doubt, and a very realistic chance that it could have happened...just as much of a chance that it didn't.

Lets play the "Make assumptions" game. Kobe Bryant just recently experienced his first major professional loss in 3 years and we saw on national television the emotional impact it had on him. Weeks later, we saw him talk about how his rift with his parents put a "incredible strain on his emotions" and he had just reconciled with them putting his emotions on a rollercoster. Then this paragon of virtue who would never cheat on his "backbone and strongest person he knows" invites a 19 year old girl to his hotel room...alone...(after having knee surgury and possibly being on pain killers that could affect a persons EMOTIONS~) *uninformed jackass mode* it is very possible that all the emotional strain in Kobe's life could have exploded when this girl dared to tell him no in that room and made him do something he would normally never do..blahblahblahimabigfatdumbass.....*uninformed jackass mode off*

WOW!! look at that...GET ME ON TELEVISION SO I CAN TELL MY STORY!!! THERE IS NOW NO DOUBT THAT KOBE IS A RAPIST. I MEAN I HAVE UNPROVEN THEORIES AND RUMORS AND PLAIN FABRICATIONS TO BACK IT UP. ~RAPIST!!

July 23, 2003

(GameCop @ Jul 23 2003, 06:03 AM)
Another dagger for the Defense team. This girl is toast; it's quite obvious that her sole purpose is to extort money from the NBA's most premiere player, Kobe Bryant. I hope this whore goes to prison for falsely incriminating an innocent man.

Post like this continue to support my belief that people are at the core purely retarded.

They're not retarded. It's like if your family member was in Kobe's position. You would support him/her no matter what before all the facts are out. If you don't, then you're just fucked up. I guess it's because they've seen Kobe play and already come to the conclusion that he can't do what they're accusing. And it's like the old saying: "Ignorance is Bliss"

And Ripper, why would she go on vacation again? To avoid the newsvans? Her name wasn't released and nobody knew who she was at that time, except her family and close friends, and I doubt that they would release her name and tell where she lives, etc.

As for the "Physical Evidence" that were apparent a week after, the bruises could have originated from countless causes. Maybe she hurt herself, maybe Kobe actually did force himself on, who actually knows? This case is just a "he said, she said" game. Only Kobe and that girl knows what happened in that room. Physical Evidence won't prove anything unless it's really damning good physical evidence. People can hurt themselves too so let's not rule that possibility out.

July 23, 2003

"As for the "Physical Evidence" that were apparent a week after, the bruises could have originated from countless causes. Maybe she hurt herself, maybe Kobe actually did force himself on, who actually knows? This case is just a "he said, she said" game. Only Kobe and that girl knows what happened in that room. Physical Evidence won't prove anything unless it's really damning good physical evidence. People can hurt themselves too so let's not rule that possibility out."

But my point is that for all we know, she doesn't have a bruise on her. Reports from people that are looking for attention mean NOTHING to me. I am not jumping on these reports about the bruises because I don't know them to be true...no more than anyone knows about this party thing.

And the girl still has never released her name. The press heared, 19 year old that worked at resort and found out who it was. Her "Friends" were on TV 2 days later saying "Well she wanted to be a singer so she might be making this up" (BTW, what kind of fucking logic is THAT??) The press didn't have cameras up her ass because she wasn't there for them to photograph all the time. It makes perfect sense that her and her family would get away for some together time before the shit hit the fan. They will not have a moment of privacy from now on.

And I stand by my point that if your reasoning for believing Kobe is "But I have seen him shoot basketball...he can't be a rapist" then yes, that is ignorance. To say "There is NO DOUBT that this WHORE ass BITCH, SLUT is trying to take Kobe's money because a RUMOR came out." Then yes, you ride the short bus.

July 23, 2003

Point well taken.

However, her friends aren't the brightest out of the whole block either. So many of them are already coming out with their own stories- Oh she was in a good mood, Oh she would never hurt herself. That's just a load of crap from her friends. You will never know what a person is thinking (even if you are his/her friend for a long time). That's just the way it is.

And yea, we don't know if the bruises are true, or whether or not the party claimed by NBC had the actual girl there. So many things to take into account. And as for the location of the trial, I really think they should bring it out to a larger arena. Eagle County is going to support the girl no mattter what. In their minds, Kobe's already guilty. That's not the United States. I say move it to Denver, where you can get an impartial trial and have a diverse jury.

July 23, 2003

Oh definately, they have to move it to a larger venue. I don't think that he could get anything resembling a fair trial there.

July 23, 2003

I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about Kobe cheating on his wife. My god people, what world do you live in? Step into reality, men cheating on their wives and wives cheating on their husbands is common. Not that it makes it ALRIGHT, but it happens. Kobe was against it, I know, but it's not like he started some huge rally against adulterers and went out in the media and bashed everyone who cheated on their spouses. Jordan cheated on his wife up the wazoo and it got swept under the rug by pretty much everyone, so why is Kobe doing it such a big deal?

It's a big deal only to the people who would NEVER cheat on their girl because they'd be damn lucky to even land one. So I can see where they are coming from. If I knew that I'd prolly only nail one girl in my entire life, I'd do my best not to screw it up, either. The "it's morally wrong" argument is just a beard; I'm sure these loser's morals'd go right out the window if they had hot ass tossed at'em every day. Judge not, posters, lest ye be judged.

July 23, 2003

I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about Kobe cheating on his wife. My god people, what world do you live in? Step into reality, men cheating on their wives and wives cheating on their husbands is common. Not that it makes it ALRIGHT, but it happens. Kobe was against it, I know, but it's not like he started some huge rally against adulterers and went out in the media and bashed everyone who cheated on their spouses. Jordan cheated on his wife up the wazoo and it got swept under the rug by pretty much everyone, so why is Kobe doing it such a big deal?

It's a big deal only to the people who would NEVER cheat on their girl because they'd be damn lucky to even land one. So I can see where they are coming from. If I knew that I'd prolly only nail one girl in my entire life, I'd do my best not to screw it up, either. The "it's morally wrong" argument is just a beard; I'm sure these loser's morals'd go right out the window if they had hot ass tossed at'em every day. Judge not, posters, lest ye be judged.

I really hooe that isn't a shot at me. I'm hate to break it to ya, but I don't fit into the "big ol' star wars lovin 28 year old virgin net geek" demographic. And everyone that feels that marriage is something sacred (dumbasses) aren't either. I am(sigh...was...fuck you economy) a young well off business owner. It is a possiblity that what he did is something to be frowned upon. But then again we are just going to start retreading over what we already have said and that would be pointless.

July 23, 2003

Hey, I know the not everyone fits the description I laid out...but you can't deny that a good majority of the folks here do. If they looked like Tom Cruise and banged a different broad every night I doubt they'd be in here reading Kobe the riot act for his recent actions. That's all I'm saying. They can say what they say because they'd NEVER be in his position.

July 23, 2003

But at the same time, you have to admit that there ARE people in his position that DON'T cheat on their wives/husbands...unless you believe that every NBA star, Movie Star or popular figure cheats on their significant other and you have already stated that you don't. Sure, some peoples moral might become skewed if they were in the same position...like when people wonder how Hammer blew all his money, win a 70 million dollar lotto and are broke 3 years later...but that won't change the fact that what he did and what is commonly done should/will be chastised and looked down upon.

July 24, 2003

What I'm about to say may turn some heads:

Even if Kobe did rape this girl, he deserves to be let go without any repercussions. Now, you're probably bemused by what I just said. Any person who commits a crime must face the penalty that accompanies it. Excluding murder, of course, national icons -- like Kobe Bryant -- must be preserved in the public eye. Kobe Bryant, to many children and adolescents alike, is an icon. Before this incident became public, he was reputedly a moralistic man who represented everything that is "right" in this world. If Kobe Bryant is convicted, many hearts will be broken, the NBA will be irreparably damaged and the number of role models who are virtuous in this world will be down to a miniscule number.

In other words, Kobe Bryant's life means a lot more than the accuser's life. Kobe is an exceedingly talented basketball player; some may even argue he is the leader of the NBA. He is an object of reverence, and a model citizen; he impacts people's lives, and dare I say, the world in a positive way (at least before these allegations). Conversely, the accuser's life means nothing in the grand scheme of things; she is a virtual nobody and whether she lives or dies tomorrow, nobody outside of her core family will be genuinely affected. I'm not trying to be a callous, unfeeling person, here. Obviously, just because one doesn't enjoy the stature that a Kobe Bryant has, doesn't mean he or she should have fewer rights. Everyone, for the most part, deserves to be treated equally, but this must be treated as the exception.

If this was Lamar Odom -- a man who is known for his marijuana use and crime record -- then it wouldn't matter if he was convicted. Someone like Lamar Odom or Allen Iverson doesn't change one's life for the better; they glorify drugs and violence. Kobe, on the other hand, was perceived as an anomaly because he seemed so seraphic. The way he dresses, the way he speaks, the morals he lives (lived by), his strong work ethic...all of these attributes -- or at least the purported impression -- were emulated by children who wanted to be like their hero, Kobe Bryant. Everyone is (was) a better person for wanting to be like Kobe Bryant.

I know what retort this may be answered with: "Well, Kobe proved, perhaps, with this incident that he isn't the paragon of virtue that he was perceived to be. My rebuttal to that is this: in this society -- a society that exalts its celebrities -- all we have to look up to are images. We'll never be privy to the real life that a celebrity lives; all we have are fuzzy, purported images. When an image affects everyone in a positive way, it must be upheld, preserved, and defended at the cost of, perhaps, another life.

Justice becomes immaterial when the 'greater good' is at stake.

July 24, 2003

I always knew this day would come. Gamecop has finally beat us into silence with his stupidity.

July 24, 2003

Hey, it's just an opinion. Everyone is entitled to one; it doesn't make me stupid to have an opinion that differs from yours, Smell The Ratings.

I've beaten you into silence because you can't muster a logical, argumentative rebuttal to combat what I said.

You're the idiot.

Rendclaw · July 24, 2003

because there has been precedent with a woman that was in a sexual liasion with a famous athlete and tried to extort him for money (the Michael Jordan case is the most recent example), the DA is going to have one hell of a time proving that Kobe raped her.

Whether or not Kobe did it of his own volition or on advice of his attorney, it was a brilliant move for him to come out publically just hours after the DA's announcement and fully admit to having sex with her, but fully denying the rape charge.

GC, you could not be more wrong, whether or not the man as a basketball icon, if the evidence finds him guilty, he deserves to go to jail. I posted in another thread about how we put celebrities on pedestals which are ever-shrinking because we attach our own morality to them, and when they fall off (and sooner or later, they will), they are both blindly supported and vilified in the court of public opinion, which will find him guilty or innocent before one fact is presented in a court of law.

The backlash against him is only starting, from whatever his wife said to him in private, to his family, his team, and the league in general. He should have been much more careful. If he was going to cheat on his wife, thats his prerogative. But he should have been much more circumspect about the possible dangers he was going to be putting himself in by straying from his wife.

I am simply going to wait until the case begins and the facts come out, even though its down to a he said, she said situation, and kobe stands more of a good chance to win the case. All i can say is that there had better be so damn good evidence against him, because he holds the high ground right now because of his image. That image is going to be tarnished for sure, but he will survive it.

If there is a civil suit, then we will know what the motive was all along.

July 24, 2003

hmmm. A logical rebuttal. Gimme a sec.

If Kobe the icon and role model to millions of kids is allowed to rape people, they will too.

No that was a shitty rebuttal. I should have never tried to match wits with you.

July 24, 2003

There are rumors going around more about that party the girl attended. Rumors say that 5 people were on TV talking about the party and how the girl was describing the size of Kobe's lil general. If these rumors turn out to be true, then her credibility will be shot even further down. I mean, what kind of rape victim describes the size of her attacker's lil general?

As for me, I hope some really hardcore evidence comes out so Mark Hulbert has no choice but to drop the charges. I can't stand listening to that guy talk. He's going to seek a trial to be based in Eagle County where he knows he has a huge advantage going in. I hope that doesn't happen.

July 24, 2003

Smell the ratings, the whole point is to purposely acquit Kobe if he did rape the girl.

Rendclaw · July 24, 2003

and that is not going to happen, GC. You are so far off base with that theory its not even laughable.

July 24, 2003

i wish gamecop could've been around when we had watergate. he could have made such an argument to behold.

July 24, 2003

Gamecop...I think you have done it. I have been a member of this board for years, since the Scott Kieth days and I have never...NEVER felt the need to start a thread in the No Holds Barred folder...but I think you just made me have to.

July 24, 2003

All right...I understand I am not the greatest person when it comes to grammer or spelling but can we ALL agree that Game Cop is the single most outstanding degree of dumb this board has ever encountered?

His "Theory" is so fucking outlandish that it takes a F.B.I/C.I.A field team to disect the overt layers of Mindless and idiotic ramblings set in the guise of an intelligent thought.

The mere notion of suggesting that an potential Rapist shouldn't be locked behind bars because of his formerally and now tarnished image prior to his/her conviction should over ride the fact he commited a crime of hideous nature.

A crime that some consider more devasating then Murder itself.

Kobe's Life means More then "Kate Faber"'s life is simply the most demented logic that I've seen coming out of this case.

Yes, Kobe had a image that was great but to even suggest that we ought to perserve that image just because we might scare the children is such an outlandish and dense arguement that I've ever seen.

Game Cop, The image of our role models are always going to be questioned, be it that role be an Famous and Talented Basketball Player or A 8th grade English teacher.

To Suggest that if it were another Performer of the NBA was in this case...Then it would be all right to imprison him just because of past history when the fact is...It was KOBE BRYANT that was accused of this vicious and dispicable crime and that it's perfectly ok to let him walk.

Why should Kobe Bryant's Image be perserved? If he is an Rapist, then that Image is SHATTERED forever.

Game Cop, I hope you are pleased and honored with yourself for making the greatest example of imbecility that could ever be made.

July 24, 2003

There are rumors going around more about that party the girl attended. Rumors say that 5 people were on TV talking about the party and how the girl was describing the size of Kobe's lil general. If these rumors turn out to be true, then her credibility will be shot even further down. I mean, what kind of rape victim describes the size of her attacker's lil general?

As for me, I hope some really hardcore evidence comes out so Mark Hulbert has no choice but to drop the charges. I can't stand listening to that guy talk. He's going to seek a trial to be based in Eagle County where he knows he has a huge advantage going in. I hope that doesn't happen.

Back to the subject at hand, for every report of her bragging about Kobe's body is a report of her at still having bruises and still being upset about it.

It all goes back to my "It's probably all bullshit" theory on it.

July 24, 2003

I just heard that Kobe reportedly bought his wife a 4 million dollar ring…Is someone feeling a little guilty?

July 24, 2003

I'm getting fucking tired of this "REPORT" bullshit.

REPORT=Senstationl Rumors merely created for the purpose of dicussion/gossip.

GAG ORDER the fucking media please.

July 24, 2003

Kobe bought his wife a $4 million 8k purple diamond ring?

Someone listening to the Tony Bruno Morning Extravaganza?

July 24, 2003

Why Purple?

Kobe should just go

"All right...You wanna fuck Shaq...Go ahead"

July 24, 2003

Why Purple?

Kobe should just go

"All right...You wanna fuck Shaq...Go ahead"

Purple = rare = expensive

July 24, 2003

Ah...I thought it had to do with being a Laker.

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