The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2005 I sincerely believe that the time’s upon us to suggest what we can do, or suggest be done, rather than moan indefinitely about all things being bad. 1 - We cannot pray for a miracle to save us. Given our shallow squad and lack of transfer funds I doubt we can mount a serious promotion challenge next season. This means another two years – being optimistic - surviving on Championship incomes that we’ve already shown cannot sustain our debt. 2 - The debt’s structured to be beyond redemption without the chance of promotion. Experian rate us as 1.8:1 to not survive the long term. The increase in debt from around £35m to allegedly around £41m supports this, and if it goes up at the current rate will have hit £50m by the end of next season. 3 - As the two major creditors have security against their debt the likelihood is that local businesses will get less and less back should we delay administration as the debt increases. Also, ABC are the only ones making money out of us at the moment so they get richer as we bleed to death. 4 – There’s investors out there willing to help us, they just don't want to write a £40m cheque for the right to do so. I suspect they’re waiting in the wings until we hit the wall - which is exactly what I would do in their position. This leads me to conclude that it’s not a matter of 'if' but 'when'. By pushing for administration now (and ignoring obviously biased comments from the board that this would be a painful thing for us to do) we bring this sorry matter to a head at the earliest opportunity. Once that’s happened we can move ahead with a restructuring plan that involves investors who really care about this club. I know it’s a bitter pill. It would hurt us all short term, some local businesses would probably go bankrupt as a result, but there’s no alternative. We’re not going to get out of this by just standing back and hoping that we either get promoted or some angel feels sorry for us - it isn't going to happen. Interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2005 ....At least were not in League One. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2005 Wow, Figo has got a deal signed with Liverpool according to SkySports.com. We could really do with signing someone big, soon, especially considering Glazer says the money is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2005 ....At least were not in League One. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not yet, anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2005 To be honest there's not a lot of difference between our leagues, Brighton and Crewe are no better than Huddersfield and Tranmere. Edit: Not many teams go straight back down any more(although we did because of a Boardroom cock up) and I can't see that happening this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2005 Am I the only one who thinks we should have more loving on the forum description page? After all, I dont think any thread comes even close to touching this one in terms of posts/views Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2005 http://www.swfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~682888,00.html Not really schocked by this, can't blame him for wanting to to play in the Championship if it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Am I the only one who thinks we should have more loving on the forum description page? After all, I dont think any thread comes even close to touching this one in terms of posts/views <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We're the cornerstone of this folder. pin us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 There's a few trialist's at derby, apparently. The next Idiakez? The next Rasiak? Don't be silly. The next Darryl Powell. Hell, I think one of them IS Darryl Powell. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I will not hear ill of Darryl Powell. I'm liking Pompey's progress so far this summer. Laurent Robert and Andy O'Brien look like solid, Premiership signings. And John Viafara, our new Colombian midfielder, looks like a decent find. All we need is a new striker and we're sorted. We're making some noises about Paulo Wanchope. Hopefully if Alain Perrin can motivate him, he'll be a good signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Billy Stark still hasn't signed anyone and I'm getting worried. We have no height in attack and the new young players aren't as good as the ones who came in last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 There's a few trialist's at derby, apparently. The next Idiakez? The next Rasiak? Don't be silly. The next Darryl Powell. Hell, I think one of them IS Darryl Powell. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I will not hear ill of Darryl Powell. I'm liking Pompey's progress so far this summer. Laurent Robert and Andy O'Brien look like solid, Premiership signings. And John Viafara, our new Colombian midfielder, looks like a decent find. All we need is a new striker and we're sorted. We're making some noises about Paulo Wanchope. Hopefully if Alain Perrin can motivate him, he'll be a good signing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't sign Wanchope. Hand on heart, I'd reject him if I was in charge of Derby and he wanted to sign on a free transfer on wages of £10 a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Can Derby even afford £10 a week though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 why do you think i'd reject him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Apparently we bid £300,000 for someone. Where would we get that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2005 I guess its time to have our now annual summer year change from 2004 - 2005 to 2005 - 2006, will pm a mod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2005 aye. ask for it to be pinned while you're at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anorak 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2005 hooray! It's pre-season friendly time! The time of year when obscure trialists from all kinds of countries pull on your teams shirt. Except it's not really that exiting because you never seem to sign any of them. I suppose there's often a simple enough reson why they haven't got a club. Against Kettering yesterday we had two Croatians and an Australian playing in a side captained by a 17 year old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2005 http://www.bcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~683809,00.html I'd be happy if there was a 25% Sell On Clause involved(unlikely), the Undisclosed bit worries me, usually a sign of a lesser fee than expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 OK, we've got about 9 central defenders now, I assume Sturrock will be favouring a 7-2-1. If it keeps us up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Also, our pre-season friendly of note is Man City, who are supposedly bringing a full strength team. That should be a laugh. Now if someone would get their arse in gear and buy Wright-Phillips... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 No Wanchope, but we've got some Zambian we signed from Kaiser Chiefs. He was the keyboardist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted July 14, 2005 http://www.bcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~684876,00.html Guess I was wrong on the fee being less than expected, doubt we'll spend much of it but at least it reduces our debt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Damn You Helmsley Report post Posted July 14, 2005 Vieria's signing for Juventus, hooray for me. We should get Pires too while we're at it. Get one good season out of him and then off-load him to Qatar or Bolton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 14, 2005 Ha. That last bit made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2005 Bump* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2005 Forest drew 0-0 against Danish Super League side Silkeborg last night. Apparantly our defence was excellent, and we could've won it in the last few minutes with a Morgan header from a set peice, which struggle to believe as I've never seen Big Wes win a header that wasn't in his our penalty area, and even then he struggles if there's anyone else in the same half. Gerrard has injured his knee though, which leaves us with the grand totl of 0 contracted goalkeepers over the age of 20. Which is worrying. The reserves are playing the mighty Shepshed Dynamo tomorrow afternoon, which is very close to where my mum lives. Annoyingly I'm working so I can't pop down there to spend some time with the family and then 'accidentally' discover the game's on and go along and watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2005 How big's your 1st team squad? all we have is 19 outfield players and 1 GK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2005 Our first team squad is; 1 Paul Gerrard (GK) 2 Nicky Eaden 3 Gino Padula 4 Gary Holt 5 Wes Morgan 6 Ian Breckin 7 Nicky Southall 8 Kris Commons 9 Gareth Taylor 10 Scott Dobie 11 David Friio 11 Marlon King (on loan to Watford for the season) 12 Ross Gardner 14 Jack Lester 15 Neil Harris 16 Paul Evans 17 James Perch 18 John Thompson 19 Eugen Bopp 24 James Beaumont 25 Kevin James (Transfer List) 26 David Johnson (Transfer List) 27 Alan Rogers (Transfer List) 28 Adam Nowland (Transfer List) 30 Spencer Weir-Daley (Under 20) 31 Justin Roberts (Under 20) 37 Vincent Fernandez (Under 20) 39 Matt Glass (Under 20) Which I make to be 1 'keeper and 18 players, but that isn't counting Marlon as he's at Watford, the four listed as they've been told they won't be picked, and the three kids who won't get a game unless desperately needed. So technically it's 1 keeper and 26 players, but in reality it's only 18. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2005 Megson's brought in some decent experienced players for the defence and midfield...I'm a little worried at depending on Harris, Dobie and Taylor to score the goals, although Lester's return will help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 See how I take all the knocks for you people, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=71872 Im just fucking unappreciated in my time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
