Smackdown - Here Comes The Pain Screens!

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Hm... Hopefully I'll get to play against Brok Lesnar for the WWE Championship with my CAW.

 

Seems they got somethings right so far with the submission meter and the CAW needs to be built up to become better. Only thing I demand is that if you do become better with the CAW that there is a lot more moves that aren't used by one wrestler in one shape or fashion. I want unique moves for my CAW dammit.

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

when does it hit shelves?

I already answered that.

[Guest Nightscrawler]

I can't wait for this game! After reading the articles in the links you put up, the gameplay sounds to be way better and improved on. I'm glad they have a new submission system, and have done things like add wrestler specfic grapples and counters.

[Guest Scotsman]

One thing I heard was if you were using a CAW, on the versus screen(or Royal Rumble screen for that matter), instead of just the generic CAW image, it would actually show your wrestler. Anyone able to confirm that?

 

Also what I’d love to see for a CAW, would be a custom titantron video. For example, if you created Jeff Jarrett, his titantron video would consist of him giving his favourite/finishing moves to opponents..ie: video of him giving the stroke to Rock or whatever. Even be able to add in effects of it on your own(ie: Black and white….camera spins) etc.

[Guest Choken One]

or least just say

 

"JEFF JARRETT" on the titan tron...

[Guest Sturgis]

For those who are getting a pissy about not having Bret, Owen, Bulldog, etc. remember you CAN'T just put them into the game you have to ask permission to use their likeness, if they(or in some cases their families) said no then bitch at them not THQ.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

One thing I heard was if you were using a CAW, on the versus screen(or Royal Rumble screen for that matter), instead of just the generic CAW image, it would actually show your wrestler. Anyone able to confirm that?

 

Also what I’d love to see for a CAW, would be a custom titantron video. For example, if you created Jeff Jarrett, his titantron video would consist of him giving his favourite/finishing moves to opponents..ie: video of him giving the stroke to Rock or whatever. Even be able to add in effects of it on your own(ie: Black and white….camera spins) etc.

That would, indeed, be stunning.

 

It'd be nice to have in-game style Titantrons with the computor generated charachters in the video instead of FMV...

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

The likeness thing is a problem, but doesn't WWE practically own the careers of those guys now? I mean, i can see legal issues in using the names of certain guys (Rick Rude, Bulldog, Owen, etc.), but is likeness a problem considering their careers are locked up in the video vault? i have no idea what i'm talking about, so i don't care if i'm wrong.

 

I'd think Cactus would surely be a Legend; Mick's on good terms with them again, his career is amazing-but we get Volkoff, Hillbilly & '80s Hogan? Ugh. I don't so much care about the Hart family's presence, since they're always easy to make, but i would have loved Cactus (ECW version preferred, like there's a difference), Arn Anderson, Rude & possibly Earthquake (it would be awesome to have Tenta beat the fuck out of Goldberg). But we all know that getting what we ask for is not what we really want.

[Rendclaw 0]

True enough, TDS.

 

I wonder how many slots will be available for CAWs this time around, I was very happy that there were 36 slots for CAWs in SYM... even if the number was reduced to say, 24, I would still happy..

 

I hope that they put more matches on each card in the story mode, used tag teams properly, and have EVERY title defensed on EVERY PPV. That's a pet peeve of mine about SYM, is that created stables don;t have many tag matches, and with only three matches per Raw/SD/PPV, the title defenses were not all that consistent, unless you had the undisputed title.

 

the graphics are wonderful to behold but I hope they fixed the esoteric stuff.

 

By the way, for those who still play. when is the best time to ask for a title shot? I'm trying to get my hands on every title that my CAW can get, just to accomplish that task.. I have owned the Euro, Hardcore, Tag, and Undisputed Titles. I'm still trying to get my mitts on the IC title.

Edited July 29, 2003 by Rendclaw

[Guest Lil Naitch]

I'm thinking they added Old School Hogan because he left, just like Piper.

And there is no good time to ask for a title shot, it's a fluke. I almost NEVER get a title shot. And right now I'm both the Heavyweight and Cruiserweight champ, and Tag champ, and trying to get the other belts.

[Guest The Hollywood Fashion Plate]

Dear god. HILLBILLY JIM? The HELL? Nooo, we don't get Owen, Bulldog, Cactus Jack, Bret, or anyone GOOD, we get HILLBILLY JIM. Since when was he a legend?

 

... Well, on the plus side, we do get DiBiase...

Well, Slaughter and Jim both worked for WWE after they retired, so that may have had something to do with it.

[Rendclaw 0]

I'm thinking they added Old School Hogan because he left, just like Piper.

And there is no good time to ask for a title shot, it's a fluke. I almost NEVER get a title shot. And right now I'm both the Heavyweight and Cruiserweight champ, and Tag champ, and trying to get the other belts.

ah well.... I was wondering about that.... the last couple of times I did it with my first CAW was after a successful PPV run.

 

*remembers with fondness where he had to defend the Hardcore, Tag, and Undisputed titles on one PPV*

[Jesse Badass 0]

It is confirmed that there going to have the old school Undertaker in SmackDown 5. But one wrestler they need to put in there is Bret"The Hitman" Hart. I would love to see him in there.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

My main gripe with '80s Hogan is why have it as a different character when it can be just an alternate attire for the Hogan that's already there. Taker i can somewhat understand, since his persona & moveset have altered a lot over the years. Cactus deserves to be there, as does Bret. Hell i'd take Iron Sheik over Volkoff as far as the Evil Foreginer quotient. I also demand Hennig, like it would go over anyway. But whatever, it still looks awesome. The only thing that could make the game better is having the Warrior Signal during his entrance.

 

As for the CAW, all i ask is for headbands & the fucking Vader mask. It's been a pain in the ass having a maskless Vader job to Brock.

[Rendclaw 0]

Oh there is a way you can tweak a CAW's logic to where he is a BEAST.. a friend of mine did Vader (which I am going to have to alter his moveset, because the one I have seen is out and out ridiculous) and he was a pain in the ass to fight. Beatable but hard.

 

Then he did Andre, and wow.... a couple of moves are off, but man is he a pain to wrestle. I can only imagine what Andre will be like with the weight restrictions... or Vader for that matter....

 

I want to make a true old school Andre, where he had mobility, and could chase Heenan around the ring... not the Andre where his giantism really hampered him as a wrestler...

[Guest Deviant]

The still shots looks great, but all of the in-action shots in the magazine look to be the same old crap. I am glad to hear about the gameplay improvements, they needed it.

[Guest Scotsman]

Oh yeah and the one thing that would make this game so good I'd buy EIGHT copies of the game would be if you could replay classic matches, a feature Giant Gram implemented. For those that didn't play Giant Gram, I'll explain. There'd be a list of say 10-15 matches in Smackdown. One of them would be Andre vs Hogan. You would control either Andre or Hogan, and have to pull off the main moves they used in that match in order. It's a bit hard to describe, but it was reallly fucking cool, and a feature I'd love to see implemented in another video game.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

Hmm...intriguing. Confusing but intriguing. Sounds good.

 

Yeah, Rendclaw, i've heard stuff like that. I wish i had talent. But the fact you can't have the damn Vader mask pisses me off. Why have the tights & moveset & NO MASK? Next to creating the perfect pre-'97 Sting (harder than i thought), it's one of my sad little goals.

 

I hope the crowd is better. I mean i know they said it would all be 3D & stuff, but i want chants when i go to Philly dammit. I want "You Screwed Bret" when you go to Canada. I want "What?!" after every Austin punch. I want just more spontanaity from the crowd (although i mark for the "Whoo!" in SYM, they could do so much more). Throw in the random fan jumping the rail & secruity/your wrestler taking him out, & there's 2/3 of the best wrestling game ever (the other 3rd is No Mercy's play with the ability to hit your finish from nowhere like the SD! games). Wait...nah, asking for the homeless to appear outside the arena during Hardcore shit is too much. but it;d be cool to steal their bottle of Jack & break it on Al Snow's head, then have them chase you. Ahh, the mind & it's pathetic wonders.

[Guest Scotsman]

I love the idea of a fan running in, although it probably wouldn't be allowed in for the same reason the NHL didn't want fighting in any of their games. It'd be a lot better if the odds of getting it were 1 in a 1000 or something too, because it'd be something that'd make you keep playing just to see it.

[Guest Scotsman]

I love the idea of a fan running in, although it probably wouldn't be allowed in for the same reason the NHL didn't want fighting in any of their games. It'd be a lot better if the odds of getting it were 1 in a 1000 or something too, because it'd be something that'd make you keep playing just to see it.

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

I hope the crowd is better. I mean i know they said it would all be 3D & stuff, but i want chants when i go to Philly dammit. I want "You Screwed Bret" when you go to Canada. I want "What?!" after every Austin punch. I want just more spontanaity from the crowd (although i mark for the "Whoo!" in SYM, they could do so much more). Throw in the random fan jumping the rail & secruity/your wrestler taking him out, & there's 2/3 of the best wrestling game ever (the other 3rd is No Mercy's play with the ability to hit your finish from nowhere like the SD! games). Wait...nah, asking for the homeless to appear outside the arena during Hardcore shit is too much. but it;d be cool to steal their bottle of Jack & break it on Al Snow's head, then have them chase you. Ahh, the mind & it's pathetic wonders.

According to some interviews I read with the producers, they are implementing more crowd chants and voice-overs for the wrestlers. As everything with THQ it should be taken with a grain of salt, but we can hope.

[Rendclaw 0]

That would be cool as a little "Huh? what was that?" moment while in a match. I just hope they took out the outside environment, because it was useless. I was happy that The World closed down just because it wasn;t going to be used in the next series of games.

 

It was a neat idea, but the execution of it was horrible.

 

I just hope that there are more characters in the backstage and arena areas and theyhave more of an impact on the storyline.

 

But I just might be asking too much.

[Guest Nightscrawler]

I thought that the backstage areas in SYM were a good idea, it's just that it got annoying having to watch your guy enter and leave each room, and wait for the loading times. Plus the first person view was pretty horrible.

[Guest DarthLordOfWrestling]

ah hell, since I'm in the mood...

 

Goldberg vs Lesnar

 

Lesnar grabs the ropes to break the Ankle Lock

 

Everybody has got a prize

 

Abs of steel

 

Stacy pulls Torrie's shirt off

where do you get those pictures. Ign or something

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

where do you get those pictures. Ign or something

IGN, Gamespot, other boards, other websites...

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

High Res Smackdown Trailer:

http://eu.playstation.com/iw_images//asset.../ops2_smack.wmv

 

And some new scans, but nothing terribly exciting:

http://groups.msn.com/RkdsGroup/shoebox.ms...hoto&PhotoID=12

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

Some stuff from a new PSW magazine article about the game:

 

They mention Zach Gowen, no confirmation of him being in.

 

They mention AI of opponents has been greatly improved, they'll try to win no matter of what it takes. No word of hitting hte ref, then hitting you with a chair.

 

Diva's play a bigger part. more diva style matches, as we know, B&P matches. No word of Woman season mode.

 

The graphics engine is greatly improved, by scanning all wrestlers body into computers, we get the best imgae possible on the PS2. But not only the wrestlers, arenas, crowd, etc, all improved. The crowd itself is 3D like SYM only more 3D ppl, and more movements form them aswell, instead of raising one arm, then the other, them looking left and right.

 

Loading times are in practice to be shorter.

 

Broadcasting feeling is improved, camera angles, presentation of entrances, etc. No word on commentary.

 

They confirm ledgends Volkoff, Hulk 80s', Ted DiBiase, ultimate Warrior.

 

Confirmed more voiceovers by WWE stars.

 

No Jeff Hardy

 

Confirms Hawk, Volkoff, Animal.

[Adam 0]

I can't wait for this game to come out. I only hope the CAW feature is as good as SYM or better.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

Gowen appeals to me. If it means i can create a one legged King Kong Bundy, i'm there.

 

I do hope that it's mindblowing different from SYM. I don't want another Attitude situation, especially on these entertaining yet repetative games.

 

i love the CAW on SYM. I just hope you can still unlock other guys movesets & stuff. The fun was creating guys with out of the mainstream moves. Or creating your own Lynn/RVD or Cactus/HHH series.

[Rendclaw 0]

Attitude situation? What do you mean?

 

SYM's CAW engine was pretty damn strong... light-years ahead of JBI... my only complaint was that the attire was a touch lacking, but thats a minor gripe.

 

I just hope the game meets my expectations, which are pretty damned high.