Guest rawmvp Report post Posted August 4, 2003 From tonight's event in Edmonton, Alberta Canada: Kurt Angle pinned Brock Lesnar. Long post-match promo with both me had Angle mocking Brock by saying "what, when, where, why" in response to all Lesnar said. Lesnar then F-5'ed Angle and left. Angle then took the mic and thanked the Edmonton fans and said Chris Benoit is the best wrestler in WWE and deserves to come back to Edmonton as WWE Champion. Maybe Angle can use his political clout to make sure that Benoit becomes the champ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Maybe Angle can use his political clout to make sure that Benoit becomes the champ! ... So he's pushing for Benoit as WWE when he comes back to Edmonton? Why do I think that'll be truer words he's spoken, considering it's been said Edmonton and Calgary are getting PPVs. Who's betting Edmonton has it's hometown hero get crowned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted August 4, 2003 I think it was cheap heat...though it is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Who's betting Edmonton has it's hometown hero get crowned? I would actually bet against it. Lately, it seems as if the WWE goes out of their way to make sure that the hometown hero gets screwed over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nWoScorpion Report post Posted August 4, 2003 I think WWE gave J.R a break last december in OK by acvtually NOT having him get killed as per the usual when they visit his home town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 It would definately be good to see Benoit get the title in his hometown. I would definately pay to see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 4, 2003 I don't care if he wins it in Edmonton, Calgary or in the The Big Red Barn Flea Market... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted August 4, 2003 I don't care if he wins it in Edmonton, Calgary or in the The Big Red Barn Flea Market... You and I both. I would rather he wins it Edmonton as I can pay to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 fact: Angle's political power equals to... zero. sure he can debate the finish of a match, but he ain't got the "Hulk hogan-job or get fired" kind of clout. if he can't help himself get booked as a credible champion how could he help book benoit as champ? fact: benoit is great in the ring but on the mic sucks. period. today you gotta be the total package or you're no different from A Train. fact: so many years pandering to benoit 'cause he's the internet darling. name me an internet darling that made it. come on... fact: benoit will never have the gold. not in a serious way. stop creaming your panties at the thought of benoit getting pushed ahead of brock, angle, hhh, Taker or even Rhyno. benoit is midcard for life. sure he can have his little main event here and there but no one wanna see him as the champ that struggles to cut a promo. he's not "so intense he doesn't need to cut promos". You'll probably flame my ass now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Report post Posted August 4, 2003 fact: so many years pandering to benoit 'cause he's the internet darling. name me an internet darling that made it. come on... You mean besides Flair, Bret, HBK, and Foley? OK then, how bout Angle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted August 4, 2003 fact: benoit is great in the ring but on the mic sucks. period. today you gotta be the total package or you're no different from A Train. You forgot to mention that "expection being if you are banging the boss's daughter". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Fact: Benoit does not suck on the mic. His promo's are crisp and to the point. He doesn't talk fancy and he doesn't fuck up. Sure, he doesn't have the charisma of The Rock or Jericho, but he certainly doesn't suck. Fact: Not only is he best in the WWE, he's tops in the world and arguably the best worker of all time. So, don't tell me that he's "midcard for life" when I see him getting standing ovations for constantly delivering the goods. Fact: Angle can't cut a serious promo to save his life . Rey sucks. TWGTT sucks. HHH sucks. La Resistance sucks. Booker T is good but stale. Molly Holly doesn't talk, period. Almost every single champion in the WWE right now are below average at promo's. You're nitpicking Benoit because he's the best. Move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Ah, the great Benoit debate.... wouldn't you guys at least agree Benoit isn't as good in WWE as he was in other feds, most likely because of his booking, but still, he isn't as fun to watch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 that's what I hate about benoit fanboys. they always bring back standing ovations bla bla bla japan bla bla bla he ain't got a history of NOT drawing on top... of course, he's never been on top! I agree he may be the best in the world... after angle. angle can cut serious promos. he did just that with austin (between the milk truck and other shit), it's just that he's always been booked as a comedy act. the fact is that he could be booked to just cut a promo and he'd entertain you without wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 4, 2003 or in the The Big Red Barn Flea Market... you mean the Nassau Coliseum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted August 4, 2003 The perfect mouthpiece for Benoit would be Paul Heyman. Just like Yokuzana reigned as WWF champion with Jim Cornette as his spokesman, Benoit could do just the same with Heyman at his side. Benoit's brawn + Heyman's astuteness = winning combination For this to work, however, Benoit needs to turn heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boobshaw 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 rawmvp is exactly right. Turn Benoit heel, give him Heyman and you got the perfect match right there. You also have another top heel that can challenge Angle, and Heyman gets back on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 the only thing I know is that pushing benoit in the ic is just plain disrespectful at this stage of his career. he's the curt hennig of his era. a guy with talent that never really accomplished anything aside from "respect from the boys". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insane Bump Machine Report post Posted August 4, 2003 fact: benoit is great in the ring but on the mic sucks. period. today you gotta be the total package or you're no different from A Train. He doesn't suck, but he's not good either. His promo with Eddie before Vengeance was good though. But it just isn't true that you have to be good on the mic to be champ. Lesnar was never a good mic worker, and he was champ just now. How come? fact: so many years pandering to benoit 'cause he's the internet darling. name me an internet darling that made it. come on... Flair, Angle, Hart, HHH (in 2000), Foley... fact: benoit will never have the gold. not in a serious way. stop creaming your panties at the thought of benoit getting pushed ahead of brock, angle, hhh, Taker or even Rhyno. benoit is midcard for life. sure he can have his little main event here and there but no one wanna see him as the champ that struggles to cut a promo. he's not "so intense he doesn't need to cut promos". Lesnar struggles through almost every promo they give him. An do, he's not more intense than Benoit. Your whole issue is that he isn't good on the mic, which hasn't stopped others from being champ. And you could still just give him a mouthpiece, like they did with Lesnar initially. Your argument is weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted August 4, 2003 that's what I hate about benoit fanboys. Sorry that LOTC bringing up rebuttals to your points gets your goat. We hate your ass too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 ok, simple question: why didn't benoit EVER get a title run in ANY fed (don't count the wcw gold, that was a DESPERATE cheap ass way to keep half the roster from jumping after the Sullivan announcement)? Mulatto, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. if you hate my ass for having opinions and expressing some in a CIVIL manner it's not my problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 What PPV is Edmundton getting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insane Bump Machine Report post Posted August 4, 2003 ok, simple question: why didn't benoit EVER get a title run in ANY fed (don't count the wcw gold, that was a DESPERATE cheap ass way to keep half the roster from jumping after the Sullivan announcement)? Did you already give up on all your other arguments? Looks like it. The whole point of giving him a title run in the near future is that he had such a long journey to finally win the big one. It's a story that writes itself. If he'd already won plenty of World Titles already we wouldn't have this discussion. He was never in a position to hold the major title in WCW because of many reasons (especially heat with Sullivan, Bischoff only jerking off the nWo and Russo not caring about wrestling itself). That doesn't mean that he wouldn't have been a good champion if they had pushed him right. Nobody can know that. But if nobody ever tries to push him to the top, we'll never know. So why not just take a chance? He's very over and respected, can work with almost anybody, can put on great matches and he deserves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 chris benoit is a lot like hugh morrus... he'll get a title reign out of pity for years and years of service. see, wrestling promoters don't like to gamble that much. if they did jake roberts would have a wwf title reign to his credit now. do I see benoit vs brock in the future? of course. do i see benoit as a dominant champ? no. you just know vince is waiting for hogan to come back so he can live his perverted dreams again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 So maybe McMahon is just being an ass about holding Benoit down for him to win the WWE Championship later to make it mean more? Hopefully hard work and patience will finally pay off for the Rabid Wolverine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PhantMan Report post Posted August 4, 2003 mcmahon is being an ass for holding benoit down. period. but I see it as benoit is the next logical step for angle. he's gonna beat gold-brock at summerslam and have another series with benoit... then triple h will invade smackdown and win the fucking belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted August 4, 2003 but I see it as benoit is the next logical step for angle. he's gonna beat gold-brock at summerslam and have another series with benoit... then triple h will invade smackdown and win the fucking belt. I'll take odds that Triple H wins it off of Benoit. Not Angle. Why? Just so Triple H can stroke his ego some more as he's beaten the "best damned technical wrestler" for the World title. Sure, he's beat Benoit, but not as the Challenger. This way, Triple H can screw Benoit's career down the toilet and low and behold. Triple H looks like the God he ain't. What PPV is Edmundton getting? Not sure. Just one in 2004. And it's only a possibility of having one. No guarentee yet. Oh, and btw it's Edmonton. Not Edmundton. Some people need to learn how to spell. I swear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Fact: Benoit does not suck on the mic. His promo's are crisp and to the point. He doesn't talk fancy and he doesn't fuck up. Sure, he doesn't have the charisma of The Rock or Jericho, but he certainly doesn't suck. Benoit DOES suck on the mic. The promo with Eddie was horrendous. I'm not surprised his ass got booed. Luckily, Rhyno was there to cut an even worse promo and take some of the heat off of Benoit. "When was the last time you called me Eddie?" What the hell is that? A discarded line from the Brock/Angle love affair? Benoit hasn't cut a good promo since his mini feud with Angle, and that was months ago, and that was ONE PROMO. Fact: Not only is he best in the WWE, he's tops in the world and arguably the best worker of all time. So, don't tell me that he's "midcard for life" when I see him getting standing ovations for constantly delivering the goods. The best in what? Hauling out the same match night in and night out? Stop living in the past. Benoit is probably not even top 100 caliber now. But everyone keeps saying he is because they're judging his past work. If that's the case, HHH should still be considered an awesome wrestler because of the 2000/2001 era. Benoit has had ONE standout match this year. ONE. And he got one standing ovation for that one, and a smaller one when he showed up on SD! the week after the PPV. Wow, TWO standing ovations. Hogan was getting NIGHTLY standing ovations as a heel and he possessed more charisma and mic skills in his pinky nail than three Benoit's EVER could. And you remember what happened when the put the title on him don't you? Fact: Angle can't cut a serious promo to save his life . Rey sucks. TWGTT sucks. HHH sucks. La Resistance sucks. Booker T is good but stale. Molly Holly doesn't talk, period. Almost every single champion in the WWE right now are below average at promo's. You're nitpicking Benoit because he's the best. Move on. Angle has cut numerous serious promos. Get Benoit's cock out of your ear and listen up boy. Rey is okay. TWGTT are rookies, and better at promos than Benoit, who is a fucking 10+ year vet. HHH does not suck on the mic. His promos draw heat and he's refined his work to get someone over or a program over. I can't remember the last long winded HHH promo I heard. La Resistance are rookies and they've drawn more heat with one of them as a friggin' teenager than Benoit EVER has as a heel except when he had SHANE FUCKING MCMAHON as a mouthpiece. And what is Benoit the best at? Getting obsessive fanboys to suck his cock and spill ther loads over matches that happened years ago? If that's it then I more than agree with you. Note: Post style stolen from RavishingRickRudo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Boo_Bradley Report post Posted August 4, 2003 you just know vince is waiting for hogan to come back so he can live his perverted dreams again. Vince dreams about Hogan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted August 4, 2003 heh then next week Angle jobs the World title to Vince mcMahon and gets 20 minute of Stiff punch shots by Vince for making such a comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites