TheFranchise Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 not just Ric Flair cheating. Using EVERY rule breaker in the book. Dude, that IS ric flair cheating..
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 EDIT: general note--i'm really sick of this "benoit has no charisma" shit. in the ring, he oozes charisma. except possibly eddie guerrero, NOBODY can bring a crowd into a match solely based on what's going on inside the ring better than benoit. Hmmm, besides Eddie Guerrero, let' see..... The Rock HHH a few years ago (VERY rarely now) Kurt Angle Steve Austin Hulk Fucking Hogan HBK Chris Jericho And maybe even Booker T as well.
Guest godthedog Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 The Rock i'm talking BASED SOLELY ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE RING, not promos. rocky can't go from "being pretty over" to "being over like a demigod" through the course of a single match. HHH a few years ago (VERY rarely now) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. that was funny. Kurt Angle see my comments on the rock. he's pretty good at it, benoit's just better. Steve Austin 6 years ago i'd agree, but i wasn't speaking in past tense. Hulk Fucking Hogan again, see my comments on the rock. then point me to a match where hogan started a match with a lukewarm crowd, then by the end had them eating out of his hand only from his work in the ring. HBK again, see my comments on the rock. Chris Jericho again, see my comments on the rock. And maybe even Booker T as well. see my comments on triple h.
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 I wasn't talking about promos. The Rock and the others I've mentioned can all get the crowd on their feet better and more consistently than Benoit can.
Guest Goodear Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 Yes, Rock and Hogan pretty much started a match with everyone on their feet... but then they'd never sit down for the rest of the damn thing. Before this thread I never knew that Benoit promoed better than Angle and had more in-ring charisma than Hogan. Next, he'll be as fast as Rey Mysterio and have better boobs than Trish Stratus.
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 Gee, don't you know that Benoit created the heavens and the earth!?
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted August 5, 2003 Report Posted August 5, 2003 Benoit cuts better _serious_ promos than Angle. However, that's not so much benoit being better than Angle as Angle being worse than Benoit. Angle, overall, is a better stick-man and that's because of his goofy Mid-card promos. But other than that, with his headbobbin and his pseudo-downs syndrome voice and his horrible pacing, Angle couldn't sell himself as a legit badass or that he's pissed off. Benoit can.
Lil' Bitch Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Speaking of Angle, when was the last time he did the moonsault and any reason he stopped doing it? I think he did great moonsaults.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Benoit cuts better _serious_ promos than Angle. However, that's not so much benoit being better than Angle as Angle being worse than Benoit. Angle, overall, is a better stick-man and that's because of his goofy Mid-card promos. But other than that, with his headbobbin and his pseudo-downs syndrome voice and his horrible pacing, Angle couldn't sell himself as a legit badass or that he's pissed off. Benoit can. I can't believe you rag on Angle's voice while promoting Benoit's near monotone drone.
Guest Lord of The Curry Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 But Benoit's "near monotone drone" fits his charater mold. He is a badass. He's pissed. He'll fucking kill you. Now there's Kurt Angle, generally praised as the best in the WWE, a former gold medal winner and the "first real athelete in the WWF". And what does he do? Flub his lines, sound like a goof and act like his neck is made of rubber. Doesn't really seem to fit the character mold laid out.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Angle talks like he has marbles in his mouth. Monotone? I hear a couple of tones from Benoit. Just cause HE DOESN'T go up and DOWN whenever he is SPEAKING with really bad pacing DOESN'T-MEAN-HE-IS-MONOTONE-OR-DRONING-OH-IT'S-DAMN-TRUE, Brock.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 But Benoit's "near monotone drone" fits his charater mold. He is a badass. He's pissed. He'll fucking kill you. Bad asses have no voice range?
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Some Guy: Hey, lady, get over here! Girl: Eek! Bad Ass: Stop! Some Guy: Who the fuck are you. Bad Guy: Leave...that girl,...alone...before I kick...your..... *some guy punches bad ass and rapes girl* Yes, bad ass indeed.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Angle talks like he has marbles in his mouth. That's true, actually.
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Benoit talks like he's constipated.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Nah. That's not funny or true.
Detective Comics Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Speaking of Angle, when was the last time he did the moonsault and any reason he stopped doing it? I think he did great moonsaults. It's all because he injured Holly, the greatest wrestler of our times.... Seriously though, how many times did he do it? 5, 6?
Guest Anglesault Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Benoit's promos just don't really show enough emotion for me. Like it or not, you're watching to see larger than life type characters. No one like Steve Austin or The Rock really exists in life, but it's what we like to see. Then Chris Benoit comes out playing Joe Everyman and talking like your next door neighbor, it's like what the hell?
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Angle never really did a moonsault as a move anyway. He only did it to trasition from attack to defence and when he did hit it he smashed Holly's arm.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 So he does. And Benoit, sounding constipated, can gather up 10x's the intensity of one Kurt Angle.
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Nah. That's not funny or true. I know. That's why I posted it. It's in the same vein as saying Angle talks like he has marbles in his mouth.
Cherry Blossom Viscount Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Then Chris Benoit comes out playing Joe Everyman and talking like your next door neighbor, it's like what the hell? Those are the type of neighbors you never want to see as they bore you to fucking death.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 But Angle DOES sound like he has a bag of marbles (or something similar) in his mouth.
Guest The Czech Republic Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 If anyone had marblemouth it was Ahmed Johnson. Faarooq, yub gubba dub! YUB GUBBA DUB! YUB GUBBA DUB! KUHMAH SAFE WIT ME! YUB GUBBA DUB!
Guest Ray Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Ahem! wrestling skills > mic skills Benoit >>>>>> Angle 'nuff said
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 If Barbara Walters was a man, and that man was on crack, I bet he'd sound like Kurt Angle...
Invictus Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 (edited) Benoit is okay for being "intense" on the stick, but he can't do anything else, just like RRR and LOTC say Kurt can only do comedy/goofball promos. Benoit trying to do anything humorous is painful, and his taunts are obscenely weak as well. They're both good/okay at certain aspects of mic work and average at others, leave it at that. However I don't know where LOTC is getting this Kurt flubbing his lines and being rubber necked stuff, I've never noticed it. That being said, these arguments never go anywhere. Man#1:"I'm right!" Man#2:"Oh no, you are not, sir. It is I who is right." Man#1:"No, I'm right. You're dumb." Man#2:"I believe it is you who is dumb, while I am right." Etc. Edited August 6, 2003 by Invictus
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Benoit's best promos don't involve him talking. Like the one with Los Guerreros back in the winter where Eddy did his Oscar-esque change of emotions while Benoit just stared at him looking pissed off. Simple and to the point. Just let him stand there and slug the guy. That said. Right now Guerrero has passed him by. Benoit is still the better wrestler, but Guerrero is red hot right now and it makes much more sense to push him first.
KTID Posted August 6, 2003 Report Posted August 6, 2003 Neither have the mic skills or the workrate to compete with Duane Gill: WrestleManie XX Main Eventer.
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