Raven's Hair

[Guest Deviant]

As it becomes clearer and clearer that TNA is building up to the New Church/Shane Douglas cutting Raven's hair, I must say that I'm disappointed in TNA for the first time outside the ring. I've questioned booking decisions along with the rest of you, but I think this big deal that TNA has made over something as minor as Raven's hair is a little ridiculous.

 

Obviously, Raven wants to cut his hair and shave it all off. While I think that's probably going to look stupid, he'll probably make it work. Anyway, that's his call. So in order to work it into wrestling, he and ROH booked a hair vs hair match with CM Punk, which would have been an awesome way to continue their brilliant feud. ROH then announced that they had to disappoint and not deliver on that promised gimmick match because TNA had told them not to do it.

 

Now it appears that TNA merely wants to do the angle themselves. I understand that they are on national PPV, but what was the harm of letting Punk cut it on ROH. TNA wouldn't have had to even address it. ROH agreed to call it off, and has since benefitted from having NWA title matches and such on their shows, but I think it still stinks. Why should TNA be allowed to say "Hey, we're bigger than you, but we like your idea and we're going to do it on PPV, so shut up and change that main event angle you have." Shouldn't it be up to Raven? Why would TNA care? If they at least wanted Raven to keep his hair for some reason and had told their employee as such, that's one thing. But saying that he can only have a hair vs hair match on their show, what the hell is that?

[Guest JacK]

What? He's gunna cut he's hair? Nooooooo . . . he'll look soooo retarded . . . how are we supposed to believe he's a derelict-freaky-cool-grunge type person with short or no hair?

[The Dames 0]

For the record (and I'm not revealing my sources), Raven made the decision and was paid triple the money to do it on TNA, screwing over ROH in the process. What made this more shocking was that everyone assumed that Raven was going over in the Hair vs. Hair match, which he was not.

 

Dames

[Nevermortal 0]

Meh, the cage is a good enough stipulation anyway, so I'm not exactly weeping about the Hair v. Hair.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Just let Raven beat Douglas, then let Punk turn heel, attack Raven, and cut his hair.

[syxx2001 0]

Actually Raven threw the idea to both ROH and TNA and ROH was gonna give him more money so he went with them. What he did afterwards is I dunno.

[Guest OSIcon]

For the record (and I'm not revealing my sources), Raven made the decision and was paid triple the money to do it on TNA, screwing over ROH in the process. What made this more shocking was that everyone assumed that Raven was going over in the Hair vs. Hair match, which he was not.

 

Dames

 

I'm not sure where you read that. What I've read (from Meltzer) is that Raven pitched the idea to lose his hair to both ROH and TNA. Raven wanted an extra payoff to do it and ROH offered a bonus that TNA didn't match. So ROH went ahead and plugged it, then removed the situation citing contractual agreements with TNA for both Punk and Raven. They emphasized that Raven took full responsibility for it, which made it obvious that Raven was going to lose and it was his "obligations" with TNA that stopped it (I guess they just said both had contract obligations in order to not give away the potential winner). Meltzer hasn't said exactly how TNA got the thing reversed.

 

I am probably a bit biased because I favor ROH over TNA, but (and this is only a guess), if TNA dug through Raven's contract after being out bid to find a way to stop him from losing his hair in ROH, then that's pretty shitty. Of course, there is always the posibillity that Raven decided he would rather do it on TNA even with a lower payoff (or TNA offered him more money after re-thining it). Either way, it sucks that it got as far as ROH announcing the match before having to take it back.

[teke184 0]

As long as Raven loses his hair to someone worthy and NOT Shane Douglas, I have no problem with it being on TNA instead or ROH. The suggested turn of CM Punk ending with Punk shaving Raven would be great, as Punk is good and could use the rub.

[syxx2001 0]

What they could have done was have Raven lose in ROH and then on TNA have Raven wear a wig and have it "cut off"

[Guest Deviant]

I doubt you'd be able to get a wig that would look exactly right and not have anyone question it.

 

CM Punk should do the honors either way, but worthless fuck Douglas is going to do it in TNA, which may be my major problem with it. Then again, there's no way TNA will duplicate just how great the feud is in ROH without ripping them off.

 

If TNA offered more money, I can understand Raven's decision, but I'd still dislike TNA cutting off ROH.

 

Raven's decision is up to him and is fine to be decided by money. TNA's decision to stop ROH from doing it, thus ruining the bloody suspense of the match anyway, sucks. I mean, now it is a question of Raven cutting his hair. When ROH announced the match, people were wondering who was going to lose it, with many picking Punk to go bald. They have ruined the surprise, ripped off ROH and sacrificed his hair in a much worse angle.

[Guest El Satanico]

Well at least TNA worked out a deal with ROH and sent NWA champions to wrestle their guys in exchange for not doing it.

 

It's better than TNA pulling a Vince and cutting ROH off because they can and with no concern about them.

[Guest Burning Hammer]

I'm just happy that hair vs hair matches are starting to be seen as an interesting thing here stateside.

 

It should be on TNA because that is easier to get than ring of honor. Both promotions are good but I can't just sit down and order ROH or go to an ROH show becuase they haven't hit my area yet.

[Guest OSIcon]

I don't think TNA "gave" ROH anything in return for Raven's hair. Styles defended the NWA title at the 6/28 'Wrestlerave' ROH show, but that was well before any hair stipulation was brought up. So TNA didn't really work out a deal of any kind. It either comes down to them "cutting ROH off" by pulling out some contract reason or just simply deciding to offer more money for the rights to the match after ROH had already been told that they "outbid" TNA.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Why does Raven wanna cut his hair anyway.... he hasnt looked normal since Spring Stampede 1999, him bald will be absolutely ridiculous

[OldSchoolWrestling 0]

What they could have done was have Raven lose in ROH and then on TNA have Raven wear a wig and have it "cut off"

I was thinking that exactly when I started reading this thread. Rather than do it in the ring they could do it in a dark room via a kidnapping and beatdown from The Church.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Why should TNA care about taking the angle from ROH? They're not partners, they're just seperate leagues that happen to share some talent. If TNA realized after the fact that they'd be able to make some money or get some attention doing from this angle, then it's their prerogative to do so.

 

Having said all that, I think that it's a much better idea to have someone like Punk do the honors of taking Raven's hair. It'll help elevate a younger talent. And it's not like Douglas-Raven have a huge history. If it was someone like Dreamer, then I'd have no problems with an older wrestler do the honors. But not Douglas.

[Guest El Satanico]

I'm sure Raven will think up something to do with his hair that fits his character.

 

bald...mohawk...bald with tats...bald with a braided patch of hair in the back. I'm sure he can think of something.

[Silence 0]

I'm sure Raven will think up something to do with his hair that fits his character.

 

bald...mohawk...bald with tats...bald with a braided patch of hair in the back. I'm sure he can think of something.

Oh no, not the Saturn route. Please, not that awful look.

[Guest El Satanico]

That look worked for Saturn and Bam Bam so I'm sure Raven could make it work.

[Silence 0]

That look worked for Saturn and Bam Bam so I'm sure Raven could make it work.

At least with Bam Bam's tatooed head you can easily identify him with that, but if Raven did it, he'd look like just another guy trying to copy another wrestler's look.