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I honestly don't think there'd be enough fan interest in a movie. A series, sure, where fans can have time to get into him more. I know that I couldn't stand the guy when he was first introduced and I'm only now just warming up to his character.

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Hey what about how angel said in the vegas ep that he used to hang with the rat pack sometime in the 60's

 

 

Angel quote of the day

 

from somnabulist

 

"Angel: If it ever occurs that...

Cordy: Oh, I'll kill you dead"

Angel:T hanks"

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kinda off topic, but has anybody seen Secondhand Lions? Seeing Lindsay in the flashbacks doing all the swashbuckling stuff is hilarious

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Spike the ideal Romeo?

 

NATION’S FANTASY ROMEO AND JULIET REVEALED ON THE EVE OF SHAKESPEARE’S BIRTHDAY

 

Actors James Marsters (of Buffy The Vampire Slayer) and Keira Knightley (Love Actually) have topped the poll in the Royal Shakespeare Company’s search for the nation’s ideal pairing of Romeo and Juliet. The online poll announced on the eve of Shakespeare’s Birthday (23rd April), asked visitors to the RSC website who they would ideally like to see play Shakespeare’s most famous lovers.

 

Over 2,000 people voted for over 150 different actors for both roles. James Marsters who plays Spike in the cult TV series Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel and is front man to the band Ghost of the Robot was a clear winner to play Romeo. Keira Knightley, star of hit movies Love Actually and Pirates of the Caribbean, pipped fellow film actors Kate Winslet, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson and Juliet Landau to the post to take on the role of Juliet.

 

Speaking from his Californian home James Marsters said: "I’m flattered and excited that people would think of me for the role of Romeo. I think that the themes of violence and social disintegration are as important today as they were in Shakespeare’s day."

 

Keira Knightley added, "I am absolutely thrilled to have come top of the poll, particularly as Juliet is a role I would very much love to play in the future".

 

Other contenders for Romeo included Orlando Bloom, Ewan McGregor, Jude Law, Johnny Depp, Colin Firth and Ozzy Osbourne. Angelina Jolie, Vivien Leigh, Judi Dench, Audrey Hepburn, Vanessa Redgrave and Janet Street Porter were all in the running for the role of Juliet. The RSC’s current Romeo and Juliet, Matthew Rhys and Sian Brooke, who will select the winning entrant, were also named in the poll.

 

James Bond and Lara Croft, Lee Evans and Ann Widdecombe, George Bush and Hillary Clinton, Alan Bennett and Thora Hird, Carrie Bradshaw and Big, and Brad Pitt and Juliette Binoche were among the pairings identified by voters. Some took a more subjective approach with answers such as "Ewan McGregor and ’me’

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Spin off talk? The obvious answer is an Anya and Wes heaven spin off. Think of the ratings!

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Anyanka I think we've found a winner!!!! Imagine Wes yelling at Anya for staring at giles counting money or such nonsense.

or anya discovering that god likes bunnies

 

 

and btw, from now on whenever I get paid, I'm going to do the dance of capitalistic superiority. (that halloween ep from season 6 of buffy rules)

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Out of curiosity, which Buffy episode won the best of tournament after season 7 finished?

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"Passion" blew through everything. If I remember correctly, it didn't get a single vote cast against it until the round of 8. Which I noted as odd, because I think it's really really good, but that there are still 2 or 3 episodes even in season 2 alone that I like much better.

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Well this is how the tourney worked out:

 

Round of 32, First Round

The Wish(3)

Prophecy Girl(1)

 

Fool for Love(5)

Dopplegangland(3)

 

Amends(3)

This Year's Girl(4)

 

Innocence(2)

Once More, With Feeling(6)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Pangs(4)

 

Normal Again(6)

A New Man(4)

 

Earshot(3)

Restless(4)

 

The Gift(5)

Something Blue(4)

 

Tabula Rasa(6)

Checkpoint(5)

 

Chosen(7)

Lover's Walk(4)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

The Prom(3)

 

Superstar(4)

School Hard(2)

 

No Place Like Home(5)

Hush(4)

 

Grave(6)

Graduation Day Pt 2(3)

 

Selfless(7)

Passion(2)

 

The Zeppo(3)

The Body(5)

 

Results of First Round

The Wish(3)

Prophecy Girl(1)

 

Fool for Love

Dopplegangland(3)

 

Amends(3)

This Year's Girl(4)

 

Innocence(2)

Once More, With Feeling(6)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Pangs(4)

 

Normal Again(6)

A New Man(4)

 

Earshot(3)

Restless(4)

 

The Gift(5)

Something Blue(4)

 

Tabula Rasa(6)

Checkpoint(5)

 

Chosen(7)

Lover's Walk(4)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

The Prom(3)

 

Superstar(4)

School Hard(2)

 

No Place Like Home(5)

Hush(4)

 

Grave(6)

Graduation Day Pt 2(3)

 

Selfless(7)

Passion(2)

 

The Zeppo(3)

The Body(5)

 

Round of 16, Second Round

The Wish(3)

Fool for Love(5)

 

Amends(3)

OMWF(6)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Normal Again(6)

 

Restless(4)

The Gift(5)

 

Tabala Rasa(6)

Chosen(7)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

Superstar(4)

 

Hush(4)

Graduation Day Pt 2(3)

 

Passion(2)

The Body(5)

 

Results of Second Round

The Wish(3)

Fool for Love(5)

 

Amends(3)

OMWF(6)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Normal Again(6)

 

Restless(4)

The Gift(5)

 

Tabala Rasa(6)

Chosen(7)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

Superstar(4)

 

Hush(4)

Graduation Day Pt 2(3)

 

Passion(2)

The Body(5)

Round of 8, Third Round

Passion(2)

The Gift(5)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

Chosen(7)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

OMWF(6)

 

The Wish(3)

Hush(4)

 

Third Round Results

Passion(2)

The Gift(5)

 

Conversations with Dead People(7)

Chosen(7)

 

Becoming Pt 2(2)

OMWF(6)

 

The Wish(3)

Hush(4)

 

Round of 4, Fourth Round

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Chosen(7)

 

Hush(4)

Passion(2)

 

Results of Fourth Round

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Chosen (7)

 

Hush(4)

Passion(2)

 

Round of 2, Last Round

Becoming Pt 2(2)

Passion(2)

 

And "Passion" won.

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Guest Brian

Early 18th Century - Born in Galway

 

1753 - Sired in Ireland.

 

1764 - (York, England) Holtz is already on the hunt for Angellus and Darla, where they slay his family.

 

1767 - (Marseilles, France) In transit to Morocco while fleeing Holtz. Traveling with James, Darla, and Elizabeth.

 

1771 - (Rome) The monsignor assists Holtz in his capture and torture of Angellus before Darla arrives with reinforcements to bail him out. I'm pretty sure this is the last confrontation between the two.

 

1838 - Romania

 

1880 - (London) Dru turns Spike. Darla has left Angelus for the master. The three massacre a wedding. Spike finds Angel messing with Dru after telling him she was his "destiny". And the two fight, with Angel prevailing and giving the young'un a lesson.

 

1890 - Angellus is watching Jezel (ballet) by the Valiznikov troupe. I'm assumingthis is in St. Petersburg.

 

1894 - (Rome, Italy) - Being tied up with Spike so the Immortal can have a three-way.

 

1900 - (China) - Angel tries to reunite with Darla during the Boxer Rebellion. Spike defeats a slayer.

 

1902 - (New York, New York) Angel arrives in the US.

 

1920s - (Chicago, IL) Angel saves a puppy

 

1920s - (Juarez, Mexico) Angel fights Boone over a senorita for three and a half days before the sun comes up and Boone lets up.

 

1943 - (Atlantic Ocean) Angel is being used by the US government to help recover a captured sub.

 

1952 - (Los Angeles, CA) - Angel is at the Hyperion where a poltergeist is in control of the hotel. Angel is hung and leaves before he can slay the ghost.

 

5/1/67 - Angel attends Elvis' wedding at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas.

 

1975/6 - Angel drinks from a restaurant owner who's been shot, spends the next twenty years drinking from rats and living in alleys.

 

1996 - Whistler, working for the PTB and trying to restore a balance between good and evil, offers to pick up Angel and get him started. He shows him Buffy in Los Angeles.

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As for all this spin-off talk, I think the most obvious route (in terms of story as well as marketing demographics) would be a Connor & Faith show. Imagine THAT coupling. (Hell, just imagine the earthquake-like sex they'd have.) Put Dawn in there, and have her get pregnant, or turned into a vampire, or whatever, something to just finally give her something to do. Spike gets his own five minutes per episode to just show up, kick someone's ass, and crack wise. And have Ilyria fall in love with Andrew along the way, just to officially provide the weirdest couple in Buffyverse history.

 

James Marsters as Romeo? Marsters is way too old for the part, Romeo is supposed to be only 15. The list of "choices" in that contest looked more like a sick joke than anything, although seeing Spike and Dru as the star-crossed lovers would probably be amusing as hell.

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As for all this spin-off talk, I think the most obvious route (in terms of story as well as marketing demographics) would be a Connor & Faith show. Imagine THAT coupling. (Hell, just imagine the earthquake-like sex they'd have.) Put Dawn in there, and have her get pregnant, or turned into a vampire, or whatever, something to just finally give her something to do. Spike gets his own five minutes per episode to just show up, kick someone's ass, and crack wise. And have Ilyria fall in love with Andrew along the way, just to officially provide the weirdest couple in Buffyverse history.

 

James Marsters as Romeo? Marsters is way too old for the part, Romeo is supposed to be only 15. The list of "choices" in that contest looked more like a sick joke than anything, although seeing Spike and Dru as the star-crossed lovers would probably be amusing as hell.

Have Dawn be a Watcher. She was halfway there during season 7. Put in random apperances by past Buffy and Angel characters, throw in some of the Firefly actors that haven't been on Buffy or Angel yet as guest of suppoting stars, and you'd be set.

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HELLO!!!!

 

"Reconstructing Xander" anyone?

 

I'm so fucking unappreciated here it's not funny.

 

It had a song and everything!

 

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Ok, here's the opening to "Reconstructing Xander", as you can imagine, it's a long process, I wrote this during the commercial breaks for WOL as something to do rather than listening to the mind-numbing commercials. So expect the second part next week. Forgive any spelling or grammar mistakes.

 

Cast:

Nicholas Brendon: Xander Harris (inherits his Uncles hardware store in New York City, his uncle died of suspicious causes and he wants to find out what caused his death along with starting his own business and finally being on his own... or so he thinks)

Nicole DeBoer: Rebecca Levinson (Rebecca is Jonathon’s sister who lives in NY as an assistant to the producer of a Broadway show - she gets saved in the opening eps. by Xander and lives in the neighbourhood)

Charles S. Dutton: Eli (Owner of a restaurant across the street from the hardware store. He is suspicious of Xander but was a good friend of Xander’s uncle, Elmer, so he is looking out for him.)

Tom Lenk: Andrew (In New York to make a life for himself on the stage. Putting that imagination to work as a playwright)

Emma Caulfield: Anya (Shares Andrews body - on second thought, she didn’t want to die and demanded to be sent back to earth, since Andrew owes her one she was able to hitch a ride in his body while the powers-that-be work out the kinks for her new body.)

James Marsters: Spike (Spike has nothing to do, so he goes to New York... what more do you want?!)

 

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*Show opens with a shot of “Harris’ Hardware Store”, a two-story building with an old, traditional mystique about it. A car and moving van is parked outside*

 

*In the store Xander Harris (Played by Nicholas Brendon) is talking to a man dressed in a suit.*

 

Guy: Well here you are Mr. Harris, this is all yours including the apartment up stairs.

 

*Guy hands Xander the keys to the store*

 

Xander: Wow, I can’t believe my Great Uncle Elmer left me his hardware store in his Will.

 

Guy: You’ll find that there are many Hardware Stores here in New York City, and that this one is in the strangest and most dangerous part of town. You’re Uncle was a good man, he stayed here for a long time - longer than everyone else - but he died from unknown causes and many around here say it was because of something in this neighbourhood - you be careful Mr. Harris, Xander, you be careful.

 

Xander: Don’t worry about me, I lived in Sunnydale - I think I can handle The Big Apple.

 

*Guy leaves and passes by Willow*

*Willow enters room, carrying a picture, Crowd Cheers*

 

Willow: And you know what they say, Big Apples make Big Apple Sauce...

 

*Crowd Laughs*

 

Willow: Where do you want me to put this?

 

Xander: Just put it against the wall over there.

 

*Willow puts picture against the wall*

 

Willow: Boy-o-Boy, this is really happening. You with your Uncles Hardware store in New York City, this is where Batman lives!

 

*Dawn enters, Crowd Boos*

 

Dawn: No, Batman lived in Gotham City, Spider Man lived in New York.

 

Willow: We all know that Gotham City is really New York.

 

Dawn: Hey, I don’t make the rules, I just follow em.

 

*Giles enters, Crowd Cheers*

 

Giles: Please, enough with the Superhero discussions, you’ve been talking about it ever since we left California. My headaches are starting to get headaches.

 

*Crowd laughs*

 

Willow: Sorry Giles, but really, who’da thunk that Buffy would get her own Comic Book and Movie deal?

 

*Buffy enters, Crowd Cheers*

 

Buffy: Blowing up an entire town does get a gal some attention. (Crowd Laughs) And now that I’m not THE slayer anymore, I gotta do something with my time. Besides, I do my own stunts, take that George Clooney.

 

Dawn: Plus the director says she has an “explosive” personality ( Dawn with a smirk on face, Crowd boos, Dawn shrugs)

 

*Buffy puts down chair*

 

Buffy: Ok, I think that’s everything. We gotta head back to California now, Giles has that album to debut...

 

Giles: Oh now, Buffy, no need to rush...

 

Dawn: But you told Buffy in the car that if she didn’t hurry up you’d...

 

Giles: ..Oh what did you say Willow, Wolverine is a homosexual?

 

Willow: Wha?

 

Dawn: How could you say that Willow! Wolverine is soooo hot. He‘s straight, he has the thing for Jean Grey, but she’s dead, so he’s available. Really.

 

Willow: I... I...

 

Giles: You also think that he was really after Cyclops? Well, you and Dawn should talk about this in the car...

 

*Giles pushes Willow and Dawn out the door while Dawn starts to whine*

 

Buffy: You know you just gave yourself another headache, right?

 

Giles (whispering): You know that Gordon Lightfoot will be at my album party? GORDON LIGHTFOOT! Now, say your goodbyes and we’ll be off...

 

*Giles leaves, Buffy and Xander are left in the hardware store*

 

Buffy: So, I guess everything is all here.

 

Xander: Yeah, I guess so. I’m on my own for the first time in my life.

 

Buffy: Are you going to be ok?

 

Xander: Yeah... I think so..

 

*Buffy hugs Xander then leaves, stops in the door way*

 

Buffy: If you ever need anything, just call... California is a long ways away, but we’re always here for you.. It‘ll just take a while to get here... unless Willow can zap us over... I’ll talk to her about that.

 

Xander: Hey don’t worry about me Buff, I’m the guy who’s supposed to be helping people, you know me, Mr. FixerUpper Guy; Just gimmie a hammer and some nails and some depth perception and I’ll build you a window to salvation.

 

Buffy (laughing): Take care.

 

Xander: You too.

 

*Shot from through a window above the Hardware Store shows Buffy leaving and getting into the car, a figure in a black cloak his seen from behind watching and breathing heavily. Typical quick-to-black ending*

 

*Opening*

 

Sunnydale's gone and he's moving on,

to bigger and better things.

Without an eye, you know he's the guy,

for whatever the future brings.

Vampire Fights and Big City Lights,

Xander, he's our man

He'll fix your door, windows and more

He'll do anything he can.

 

Cause he's Reconstructing Xander,

There to save the day.

Reconstructing Xander,

Doin' it the Scooby way.

 

When you're in trouble, when you're it doubt

He'll be there to help you out

When you're trapt and need to be Freed

Reconstructing Xander

Reconstructing Xander

Reconstructing Xander's who you'll neeeeeeed.

 

 

*A Who’s the Boss-esque Opening with Xander driving up to the Hardware store, getting out of his car and taking a look at it and smiling “Reconstructing Xander“ in white font on screen*

 

*Clips of Xander fixing peoples doors, windows, floors, ceilings, etc. Selling them hammers, nails, screwdrivers, etc. Always smiling*

 

*Xander is shown nailing something on the wall, turns to the camera and smiles “Starring... Nicholas Brendon”*

 

*Clips of Xander fighting bad guys*

 

*Clips of Andrew getting scared. “With... Tom Lenk”

 

*Clips of Rebecca saving Andrew “Nicole DeBoer”*

 

*Clips of Eli looking on with a dumbfounded-yet-angry sort of look “Charles S. Dutton”*

 

*Clip of Spike “With James Marsters”*

 

*Clip of Anya/Andrew “and Emma Caulfield”

 

*Producer and Created by Credits*

 

*Clip of what Xander was nailing to the wall “Welcome”*

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*The show picks up with Xander in the Hardware Store putting prices on various things*

 

Xander: Puttin Prices on things, prices on things, prices on things. And.. somethin, somethin, somethin, is what I sings...

 

Hey

 

*He picks up a small glass ball*

 

Xander: EYE think EYE know the perfect place for this. Heh Heh.

 

*looks around for someone to laugh*

 

*the store is empty*

 

*he sighs*

 

Well, it's better than fighting demons... if not less exciting.

 

*A bell rings signifying someone has entered the store*

 

Xander: Oooh, a Custy.

 

*crowd laughs*

 

*In walks Rebecca Levinson (Nichole Deboer)*

 

Xander: Uh, can I help you with anything?

 

Rebecca: Yes.

 

*pause*

 

Xander: ... What can I help you with?

 

Rebecca: Oh! Yes. I'm looking for a screw.

 

*crowd laughs*

 

*Xander looks with a puzzled face, wondering whether or not to touch that.*

 

Xander: Hmm, I dunno if I can legally help you with that... you a cop?

 

*Rebecca realizes the implication of what she said*

 

Rebecca: My door, it's hinges fell off and I need some screws to put it back in place.

 

Xander: Well, I can help you with that. This being a Hardware Store where there are probably plenty of screws lying around and I being the Hardware Store guy who should know where they are... uh... I have no idea where they are, I'm kinda new at this...

 

Rebecca: They're right there.

 

*She points behind him*

 

*crowd laughs*

 

Xander: Oh! Yes! There. There they are. There are the screws. The screws, they are there. Am I good or what?

 

Rebecca: A regular Bob Villa.

 

Xander: Who?

 

Rebecca: Forget it, how much do I owe ya?

 

Xander: Seeing as how I don't exactly know where the cash register is at the moment or how to use it, it's on the house... no pun intended.

 

Rebecca: Well, thanks.

 

Xander: No problem.

 

Rebecca: Now all I have to do is figure out how to get that door fixed.

 

Xander: I could help you with that if you'd like. I may not be that good at sellin, but I'm really good at fixin... the speakin, I'm workin on.

 

*crowd laughs*

 

Rebecca: I.. I don't want to bother you...

 

Xander: It's no problem. I've fixed many-a-door in my time. I lived in Sunnydale and, let's just say it was a door kickin down kinda town.

 

Rebecca: You're from Sunnydale? California??

 

Xander: Well, it's not quite there anymore, but yeah.

 

Rebecca: My brother lives in Sunnydale! Or used to... I guess... haven't heard from him in 2 years. Man, that was odd, the whole town blowing up... do you know anything about it?

 

Xander: Umm... I was... uh... No. No clue. Just packed up and moved here... this is actually my uncles store, he died.

 

Rebecca: Oh, I'm sorry.

 

Xander: Yeah, we were pretty close when I was younger. It was kinda odd how he left the store to me though - we kinda grew apart.

 

Rebecca: That's the same way with me and my brother - Jonathon.

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