The One and Only Angel Season 5 Thread

[Guest Brian]

Everything involved in that is messed up. Her kissing Beast, his weaksauce death, being pregnant with Connor's child. She has no credibility as avillain.

 

Evil Cordy is the reason why Season 5 Angel is better than Season 4 and there is no question about it. Had they had The Beast at Jasmines side, and Jasmine come in a few episodes earlier - that would have been fucking AWESOME.

Jasmine used the Beast to reek havoc and such, but she wanted to keep things clean. She never wanted to wash the blood from her hands, she'd rather not have been involved directly. Cordy was not just a vessel but a liason; she allowed Jasmine to operate without getting dirty.

 

And I didn't like Evil Cordy, but it would have been hard to play things out any other way.

[Mole 0]

I just got season 5 on VCD and there was so much in "Conviction." Just about everything that is said sets up the season, everything that happens.

 

Once again why Joss is the man.

[Guest Brian]

Scene four is much shorter than I wanted it to be, and I've basically hit the end of the episode.

 

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Scene 4:

 

<Kent and Connor are in the sewer>

 

Kent: The vampires have been driven underground. These things are too powerful.

 

Connor: I don’t worry about the vampires.

 

Kent: You should. This may be are only cover, and its infested as it is. We need to find a place to stay.

 

Connor: We need to get out there and fight.

 

Kent: I don’t even know if you can survive out there. You got through this once, by luck. But you’re not conditioned to survive in this place, especially now.

 

Connor: You shouldn’t worry about me. I can take care of myself.

 

Kent: No, you can’t. This isn’t LA anymore.

 

Connor: It isn’t, but I’ve seen it before.

 

Kent: And you have to play things smart. We’re not here to get our heads cut off. We hunt during the day, lay low during the night. Nothing could make it out there with what’s going on outside right now.

 

<The streets of LA are burning. People are running down the streets. A dragon swoops down from overhead, picking up a few people. It suddenly falls to the ground, a sword piercing its neck. Camera is close to the ground as the dragon’s eyes close. The people are dead. A boot with leather pants steps up.>

 

Scene 5:

 

<Outside, a panorama as night transforms to day and the smoke emanating from the city. Many of the buildings are in ruin. Connor and Kent are still in the sewer. Connor peers outside.>

 

Connor: The sun has hit. These beasts are in retreat. I should be out there. I still have people to protect…

 

<Connor kicks don the grate and rushes through. He runs straight through the park. Kent is left behind. Kent rushes out after him but stops.>

 

Kent, to himself: You give me absolutely nothing to work with. I can’t control this brat.

 

<Connor comes running down the middle of the street in a suburban community. In one house, a group of monsters is raging, throwing furniture out the house. Connor reaches a house that looks unaffected from the outside. Connor makes it to the driveway, and is a few steps up. Suddenly the door is kicked down, as then a monster comes through the entrance, talking with others in a jovial manner. He’s large, with fangs and a huge forehead, and a wrinkled face. As he comes through the door two other demons follow, both carrying hostages. They are the parents that were given to Connor through the false memories.>

 

Lead Monster: So, the Destroyer is here.

 

Connor: Let them go.

 

Lead Monster: Kill them. <Pauses> No, let them watch. I want them to see him die.

 

Connor: No!

 

<Connor races up to the first monster. They trade punches to the face.Connor tries another swing but gets blocked. He headbutts Connor, who falls away.>

 

Lead Monster: I remember you being stronger. And more armed.

 

<A long blade emerges from the back of the lead monsters forearm. Connor comes back with a series of kicks. The fourth is blocked, and Connor is struck across the chest with the blade. Connor staggers, his shirt ripped and body scratched. >

 

Lead Monster: Ehh, there’s not much to watch now. Kill them.

 

<An arrow brushes by, just missing the leader. The camera moves to Kent on his motorcycle, clutching a crossbow. The lead monster dusts himself off. In the background, one of the monsters falls, freeing the woman. She begins to crawl away, crying.>

 

Lead Monster: Damn humans. <Turns to his living accomplice> What are you waiting for.

 

Husband: Run…

 

<The monster holding the husband snaps his neck Connor rushes to the lead monster. He lands two punches and a kick. The monster hits Connor with a forearm, but he doesn’t fall back. The lead monster takes a swipe with his blade, but Connor catches his arm. He breaks the blade cleanly off his arm with the palm of his hand. He twists the arm around and the monster drops to his knee. Connor snaps his neck and shoulder. Kent is down on the ground, after trying to stop the other monster. It has already killed Connor’s mother. Connor runs over, ducks a punch, and delivers a clubbing-blow to the back of the head. Connor pulls him up by the head and delivers a clothesline to the back of the neck, still holding. He drops the monster and races to his mother. He drops to his knees, clutches her in his arms. He begins to cry.>

 

Connor: Don’t die on me! Mom!

 

<Kent limps over, crossbow in hand>

 

Kent: I’m sorry…I tried to save her.

 

Connor: You kept me in there while these monsters were running wild. And look at what it cost me. I have nothing left.

 

Kent: I kept you alive in there. I kept you under control. I made sure you didn’t go out and get yourself killed.

 

Connor: You can’t control me.

 

<Faith enters scene>

 

Faith: I thought that was my job, Junior.

 

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And as you can tell, I decided to bring in Faith earlier than I would have expected. She's a strong-cast character to play off Connor, she brings a female dynamic, she has history, and she's hot. I'll hit on her character motivations in episode two.

[Mole 0]

Hmmmm, that is an interesting little twist.

 

But how would that work? Is Connor the main character or Faith?

[Hank Kingsley 0]

Oh god, I love how Spike completely pwns the entire group in "Touched". Awesome.

[Mole 0]

Oh god, I love how Spike completely pwns the entire group in "Touched". Awesome.

I was watching the same thing and Spike could take Faith out no problem.

[Guest Brian]

Hmmmm, that is an interesting little twist.

 

But how would that work? Is Connor the main character or Faith?

Connor's still the main charcter. I'll get to it later, but basically Faith is there because Buffy was totally unwilling to come in and save Angel's ass after his joining Wolfram and Hart. He's dug his own grave, he can dig himself out type of deal. But Faith feels indebted to Angel, and she's not really going to get held back by Buffy. I like their interplay, and I needed a female lead. It's all about Connor though, discovering his destiny, re-discovering his past, finding his place, and whooping ass.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

"Guise will be Guise" is on TNT right now. I forgot how good an episode this really is.

[Mole 0]

Hmmmm, that is an interesting little twist.

 

But how would that work? Is Connor the main character or Faith?

Connor's still the main charcter. I'll get to it later, but basically Faith is there because Buffy was totally unwilling to come in and save Angel's ass after his joining Wolfram and Hart. He's dug his own grave, he can dig himself out type of deal. But Faith feels indebted to Angel, and she's not really going to get held back by Buffy. I like their interplay, and I needed a female lead. It's all about Connor though, discovering his destiny, re-discovering his past, finding his place, and whooping ass.

I just can't see how that would work out, but if you can figure it out all power to you.

[Guest Brian]

"Guise will be Guise" is on TNT right now. I forgot how good an episode this really is.

I love Guise Will Be Guise. It's one of those few episodes during Season Two where you see some edge in Wes' character.

 

I have to work out the details with Faith. I originally wanted her for the Season Two arc where Connor snaps. Faith plays Angel's role in a way, and also the same role as before. The problem with that is, I don't have any correspondace between the Scoobies and LA, so Faith already has to be on the ground for that to be in progress.

[Guest Brian]

Hmmmm, that is an interesting little twist.

 

But how would that work? Is Connor the main character or Faith?

Connor's still the main charcter. I'll get to it later, but basically Faith is there because Buffy was totally unwilling to come in and save Angel's ass after his joining Wolfram and Hart. He's dug his own grave, he can dig himself out type of deal. But Faith feels indebted to Angel, and she's not really going to get held back by Buffy. I like their interplay, and I needed a female lead. It's all about Connor though, discovering his destiny, re-discovering his past, finding his place, and whooping ass.

I just can't see how that would work out, but if you can figure it out all power to you.

You want me to write more?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I think Faith is too much of a major character to be part of a another characters spin-off. Maybe part of a big arc that spans a good chunk of the season, but I don't think she'd work as an opening credits player. I say, have her for the first half of the season and then find another slayer for the second half.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Just kill off someone close to her to get her out of the way (Wood?). Or just kill her off period. Killing people off is fun.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

*starts a "kill her off" chant*

[Mole 0]

Or just plain ol off Faith herself.

[Mole 0]

I just bought the EW issue 505, which has an 56 episode guide to Buffy.

[BlackFlagg 0]

Woo-Hoo, I'm back...and my Wolfram & Hart shirt was here waiting for me

[Guest TonyJaymzV1]

Woo-Hoo, I'm back...and my Wolfram & Hart shirt was here waiting for me

Yay...but um, while you were gone somebody coughcoughRRRcoughcough forgot to feed your fish.

 

Sorry buddy, but Lil' Mal, Eddy The Devil-Fish, and wee little Humpy, the deforemd fish with that hump on it's back but with a heart of gold, are dead.

 

In your grieving...I shall steal your shirt

[BlackFlagg 0]

Yay...but um, while you were gone somebody coughcoughRRRcoughcough forgot to feed your fish.

 

Sorry buddy, but Lil' Mal, Eddy The Devil-Fish, and wee little Humpy, the deforemd fish with that hump on it's back but with a heart of gold, are dead.

 

In your grieving...I shall steal your shirt

Go ahead...give it a try. <prepares to deliver a Hamilton-esque heart punch>

[Guest TonyJaymzV1]

Yay...but um, while you were gone somebody coughcoughRRRcoughcough forgot to feed your fish.

 

Sorry buddy, but Lil' Mal, Eddy The Devil-Fish, and wee little Humpy, the deforemd fish with that hump on it's back but with a heart of gold, are dead.

 

In your grieving...I shall steal your shirt

Go ahead...give it a try. <prepares to deliver a Hamilton-esque heart punch>

A Hamilton Heart Punch?

 

As the french say:

Touche, bitch.

 

See, a punch has to be close, i'm just gonna go with the Uber-Bad-ass-Wesley-Shotgun-Outa-Nowhere-Blow-your-kneecaps-off

 

Where you going? You going nowhwere!

 

and now, I grab thy shirt.

[Anya 0]

My VCR messed up and didn't tape Touched and End of Days. I'm so paranoid it's going to screw up tomorrow with Chosen.

 

 

The W&H shirt is my favorite shirt ever.

[Anakin Flair 0]

Don't feel bad Anya- my VCR messed up every year, and I always ended up missing at least one episode per season.

[BlackFlagg 0]

My VCR messed up and didn't tape Touched and End of Days. I'm so paranoid it's going to screw up tomorrow with Chosen.

They show the previous afternoons episodes again the next morning, 7 & 8

[Mole 0]

My VCR messed up and didn't tape Touched and End of Days. I'm so paranoid it's going to screw up tomorrow with Chosen.

 

 

The W&H shirt is my favorite shirt ever.

Just set it for tomorrow morning, I believe it is on at 7 and 8.

[Mole 0]

Joss' X-Men was number 1 in comic book sales this past week.

[Anya 0]

I will watch the replay in the morning, but I was looking forward to watching it tonight.

[Mole 0]

Beggers can't be choooosers.

[Anya 0]

Yeah, well, I will cry if I miss Chosen. I've been wanting to see it again for like ever.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

That makes no sense. Your favorite character dies in the ep, and it isn't exactly a great ep to begin with. Masochist.

[Guest Brian]

I'll drop Faith, and edit the final copy. I'll find a female character somewhere. Should I keep on going?