chaosrage Posted July 19, 2004 Report Posted July 19, 2004 The best lines from the entire series was in that episode. XANDER She can read our minds? Our every impulse and fantasy. BUFFY Every one. XANDER (thinking) Oh god. CORDELIA (thinking) I don't see what this has to do with me. CORDELIA I don't see what this has to do with me. Edit: Fuck, I'm always at the top of every page.
LaParkaMarka Posted July 19, 2004 Report Posted July 19, 2004 The best lines from the entire series was in that episode. XANDER She can read our minds? Our every impulse and fantasy. BUFFY Every one. XANDER (thinking) Oh god. CORDELIA (thinking) I don't see what this has to do with me. CORDELIA I don't see what this has to do with me. Edit: Fuck, I'm always at the top of every page. Dammit, I love early Cordelia. She's the freaking best. Bah, so lame how they screwed up her character over time.
AnonymousBroccoli Posted July 19, 2004 Report Posted July 19, 2004 Expecting was on Space Thursday, and I got around to it today. Definitely one of the lesser episodes. Only really worthwhile part was Wesley confronting the demon. Demon: “Who is the interloper to think you could disturb the birth of my children? Who are you?” Wesley stands up: “Wesley Wyndham-Pryce, rogue demon hunter. (Puts up his fists) And I’m here to fight you, Sir, to the death, - preferably yours.” Demon: “You?” Wesley: “As a heathen I wouldn’t expect you to be familiar with the biblical story of David and Goliath. But I assure you it’s of particular relevance to this situation.” Demon: “You said you came here to do battle, then lets fight and be done.” Wesley looks around then slowly inches closer to the demon on the rim of the vat: “Yes, well, - as a point of courtesy, - I like to get to know my opponents, before I engage them in mortal combat. Do you, ah – do you have any hobbies?”
Anya Posted July 19, 2004 Report Posted July 19, 2004 That demon looks really cool. Wes shoots him! His first shooting victim.
Anakin Flair Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 technically, he shoots the can of Liquid Nitrogen. But still, that's the first time he pulls a gun.
AnonymousBroccoli Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 She tonight. Not bad overall. Featured some really awesome physical comedy on Wes' part, just randomly falling on his ass 3 or 4 times through the episode. Him and Angel dancing at Cordy's party is hi-larious. So much so, they stuck more of it in the closing credits. TVTome folk really shit on it. It's got an average rating in the 5s, which places it 2nd-last for the series, only ahead of I Fall to Pieces. The system is somewhat flawed, since it's not necessarily fans of the series doing the voting. So rabid Dharma & Greg fans may very well have handed out 1s to any of the competition. I'm not sure what else would put it that low.
Guest Brian Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 Was it ever said that the PTB saved Angel in "Amends"? Where is Tony Jaymz? I need episode seven.
Anakin Flair Posted July 21, 2004 Report Posted July 21, 2004 I don't think it was ever really explained, other than The First wanted Angel to Kill Buffy and go bad again, or something.
Guest Brian Posted July 21, 2004 Report Posted July 21, 2004 The big question I come away with is did the First know that a vampire with a soul would be responsible for stopping its apocalypse (ala Spike)?
Anya Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 There's no indication it does and if it did know it makes it look even more retarded than it already comes off as.
Guest Brian Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Why? Turning Angel evil probably would have gotten him killed by Buffy, ala Season Two.
Anya Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 If it knew it would have had the vamp kill himself. If it KNOWS Spike is going to stop it if he gets the amulet, why not have Spike jump into a kiddy pool full of Holy Water? The whole Trigger thing makes little sense as is, it's even worse if you say it knew ahead of time Spike is the key to the apocalypse.
Guest Brian Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 It didn't mind when Angel said he was going to kill himself towards the end of "Amends". There was precendence for Buffy killing her evil boyfriend.
Anya Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Why would it mind? A good guy killing himself is good news for a baddie.
Guest Brian Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 The trigger was an attempt by the first evil to get Spike killed, likewise "Amends" was Angel getting himself killed. Both were supposed to turn them against Buffy, as the First knew it could have Buffy would win the fight.
Anya Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 If the Trigger was supposed to get Spike killed then FE once again looks like a huge dumbass. It had countless chances to have Spike go crazy and need to be staked, instead it had him chill out in the basement because it "wasnt time yet". Amends was supposed to get BUFFY killed, it just settled with Angel. If it's original plan was to kill angel it woudl have just left him in hell.
Ravenbomb Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Maybe it wasn't supposed to make sense. Maybe the First was just being Evil because, well, it IS Evil
Anya Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Olaf was just wrecking shit and causing trouble. The FE had a plan and a goal.
Ravenbomb Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 or made it seem that way to make all that shit tougher for the Scoobies. Think they would really care as much if the First was just being evil? So it did evil stuff that seemed to foreshadow and Evil Goal so they wouldn't just crack wise at it like Buffy did in Amends
Max Danger Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 So instead of actually having a big evil plan, the FE just pretended to so that the Scoobies wouldn't make fun of it?
Anya Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Just because it's an eternal incoporeal spirit doesn't mean it can't have emotions and be sensetive.
Ravenbomb Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 *sigh* no, not so that they wouldn't make fun of it. And I'm not saying that it didn't, I'm just saying it might not have. If it made it seem like it had a plan, then it would be able to make the scoobies even more miserable, and probably frustrated that they couldn't figure out what the plan was.
Guest Brian Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 I thought Jasmine or the PTB's ended up takign credit for bringing Angel back, and that the FE was just lying. I'm assuming the FE knew that a vampire with a soul would stop it. In that sense, not only would turning either of those guys get them killed but it would also be emotionally devastating for Buffy. Hey, what's everybody's most shocking moment in the five seasons of Angel?
RavishingRickRudo Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Angel trying to kill Wes in the hospital. That shocked the fuck outta me.
Ravenbomb Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 probably the fact that after 5 seasons (including season 3 of Buffy) of them worrying about Angel losing his soul, they FUCKING TAKE OUT HIS SOUL THEMSELVES!!! Yeah, it was voluntary on his part, but he was talked into it. I'd be pissed at them if it didn't lead to Faith coming back. Desperado, good song for an Angel video or no?
Guest Brian Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Angel trying to kill Wes in the hospital. That shocked the fuck outta me. That was the moment for me too. I was watching this, totally thinking that Angel was going to forgive Wesley and things were going to go on, and then Angel just takes the pillow. Desperado's good given some of the heartbreaks and just Angel in general as a character.
Ravenbomb Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 It'd be my pick, too, but I was hoping he wouldn't puss out and forgive him the whole time. So Desperado wouldn't be too country-ish (I'm debating on wether I should use the Eagles version or the Johnny Cash version)
RavishingRickRudo Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 "Word Up" by Cameo. Do it. That's half serious, too. What mood are you going for? Is it just random clips or are you doing this with a theme in mind? What are you looking to get across?
LaParkaMarka Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 There has to be an NWA song that works. Fuck Tha Police would be good for that zombie cop ep. Find'em, Fuck'em, Flee for a montage of Angel's love interests. You could probably make a good medley just from the songs they sung for Lorne. The Lorneytune.
Guest Brian Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Watching that again, what made it so incredibly shocking was up until that point it looked like Angel was going to forgive Wesley. You could really feel for Angel and Wesley.
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