Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 From BBC News: Father jailed for 'honour killing' A Kurdish Muslim who cut his daughter's throat after learning she was having a relationship with a Christian has been jailed for life. The Old Bailey heard Abdalla Yones, 48, murdered 16-year-old Heshu at their home, in Acton, west London, on 12 October 2002 because he feared she was becoming westernised. He pleaded for the court to pass the death sentence on him for his "appalling" crime after he tried to take his own life. Heshu, who was described as popular and fun-loving, planned to run away from home after starting a relationship with an 18-year-old Lebanese teacher. In a letter to her parents, apparently showing she planned to run away, Heshu wrote: "Bye Dad, sorry I was so much trouble. Violence in the name of culture will not be tolerated Detective Inspector Brent Hyatt Click to watch police news conference "Me and you will probably never understand each other, but I'm sorry I wasn't what you wanted, but there's some things you can't change. "Hey, for an older man you have a good strong punch and kick. "I hope you enjoyed testing your strength on me, it was fun being on the receiving end. Well done." Yones was a political refugee who fled Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq 10 years ago. The court heard that after repeatedly stabbing his daughter and slitting her throat, he cut his own throat and jumped from a third floor balcony. Scotland Yard described it as a "brutal honour killing" - a reference to the practice of women being killed by male relatives to redeem the family name. Detective Inspector Brent Hyatt said: "There was nothing, nothing at all 'honourable' about her murder. "After hacking his daughter to death, Mr Yones has attempted every defence, from psychiatric, and diminished responsibility to extreme provocation, in order to save his own skin." He added that Yones first claimed al-Qaeda members had broken into the flat, murdered Heshu and then attacked him. He only admitted murdering her last Monday. Yones's counsel, Icah Peart QC, said his client wanted to be sentenced to death. Judge Neil Denison said Yones had tried to commit suicide twice but told him he would pass the only sentence he could for murder - life imprisonment. This is, on any view, a tragic story arising out of irreconcilable cultural differences between traditional Kurdish values and the values of western society Judge Neil Denison He added: "This is, on any view, a tragic story arising out of irreconcilable cultural differences between traditional Kurdish values and the values of western society." But Scotland Yard warned the sentence should be a warning to those who condone or stay silent about the mistreatment of women in their communities. Commander Andy Baker added: "Violence in the name of culture will not be tolerated. Murder in the name of honour will be punished by the severest penalties available in law." Scotland Yard believe there were 12 'honour killings' in the UK last year and said they were not restricted to Muslims, but also occurred in Sikh and Christian families. A specialist police unit is researching the practice but police say only a handful of people believed 'honour killings' were an appropriate cultural response. Mr Baker said people who had tried to shield Abdalla Yones from police could now be investigated on suspicion of perverting the course of justice. "We are completely satisfied that some members of the community, or his friends, tried to assist him in that cover-up," he said. "It's not about one person committing the murder, it's about the few that acknowledge it and support it and are involved in it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 This is the shit i dont understand about religion in general. This guy kills his 16 year old daughter because she was becoming westernized and that she was dating a Christian man. Well what did he expect when he left the ruthless Hussein regime that his daughter would want to conform to the old rules of the Arab world where in most cases women are treated like total shit. This fucker deserves to be executed because he took his own daughter's life. I think that murder is wrong, whether you read the Bible, the Torah, or the Quran and I am sick of these people using religion as an excuse to fucking kill people. All three of the major religions are based off of the same shit yet people for the last couple of thousand of years have been fighting to see which religion is better when none of them are. People seem to always find a way to pick out a difference about another person and discriminate against them. Whether its race, nationality, or religion people always find something wrong with someone. Usually of course it is something that we can't control. We still judge people based on the amount of pigment in their skin, yet we are suppossed(sp) to be the most intelligent beings in the universe. Well, I guess even we have something to learn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toshiaki Koala 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Fire it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted September 29, 2003 He shouldn't be executed, he should be put into a dark cage where psychos will beat the shit out of him for the same reason that he slaughtered his own offspring. In his mind, his being executed now will take him straight to heaven because what he did was "right". Send him to some rotting hell hole and pass around some vaseline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted September 30, 2003 Actually, though some names are the same and there's a vague shared point for Christianity and some other religions, the basis for them, their heart and intent, is very different. I can't imagine a Christian teaching that would condone this. Not from someone who understands how the NT applies to the OT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2003 He shouldn't be executed, he should be put into a dark cage where psychos will beat the shit out of him for the same reason that he slaughtered his own offspring. In his mind, his being executed now will take him straight to heaven because what he did was "right". Send him to some rotting hell hole and pass around some vaseline. He did feel bad for what he did and tried to take his own life. In no way did he feel he was getting rewarded for this. Read the article a little closer next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2003 Guess pops was reading from Chapter 6 of the Taliban Fatherhood Handbook -- Don't Westernize, Euthanize... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted September 30, 2003 He shouldn't be executed, he should be put into a dark cage where psychos will beat the shit out of him for the same reason that he slaughtered his own offspring. In his mind, his being executed now will take him straight to heaven because what he did was "right". Send him to some rotting hell hole and pass around some vaseline. He did feel bad for what he did and tried to take his own life. In no way did he feel he was getting rewarded for this. Read the article a little closer next time. He tried to take his own life because his lawyer would have told him there was little chance of him getting the death penalty he was asking for. Furthermore, he didn't come clean with what he had done initially either, he tried to blame it all on Al-Qaeda. He "brutally hacked" his own daughter to death for seeing someone of an opposing religion and denied responsibility until two days later when I'm tipping he tried to top himself after his lawyer told him that's the only way he was going to heaven on his own terms. Perhaps it's not I that needs to read the article a little closer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2003 He shouldn't be executed, he should be put into a dark cage where psychos will beat the shit out of him for the same reason that he slaughtered his own offspring. In his mind, his being executed now will take him straight to heaven because what he did was "right". Send him to some rotting hell hole and pass around some vaseline. He did feel bad for what he did and tried to take his own life. In no way did he feel he was getting rewarded for this. Read the article a little closer next time. He tried to take his own life because his lawyer would have told him there was little chance of him getting the death penalty he was asking for. Furthermore, he didn't come clean with what he had done initially either, he tried to blame it all on Al-Qaeda. He "brutally hacked" his own daughter to death for seeing someone of an opposing religion and denied responsibility until two days later when I'm tipping he tried to top himself after his lawyer told him that's the only way he was going to heaven on his own terms. Perhaps it's not I that needs to read the article a little closer. Wanting to die and being placed in heaven is an inherent contradiction of "saving his skin". Since saving his skin was placed in the article, I'll trust that. He obviously can't back up his own ridiculous "honour" code if he can't finish the job and take his own pathetic life. I can read just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted September 30, 2003 Having now seen this story on the news, I can clarify some details. After repeatedly stabbing his daughter, this freak slashed her throat and immediately threw himself out the 2nd story window. It also came to light that he had repeatedly abused his daughter in the past. These are not the actions of a loving, remorseful father. Here's hoping he gets what's coming to him on the inside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
