The "lifting" call

[alfdogg 0]

After seeing the play from several angles on ESPN, I can say that yes, it was a bad call, and yes, it COULD (it's not like the Bucs were absolutely going to score on their next drive) have meant the difference between who won and lost the game. But even ESPN wasn't so stupid as to ignore the fact that, had the Bucs and their overrated defense not blown a 21-point lead with less than five minutes against a team WITHOUT its star running back, it wouldn't have come to that in the first place. The Bucs simply did not deserve to win the game after that. There were also two bad calls against the Colts made previously that also COULD have been the difference in the game, but the Bucs couldn't capitalize and the Colts could. The Colts deserved to win, the Bucs did not. Period.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

True.

 

But the refs should not be deciding the outcomes of ball games.

[alfdogg 0]

They didn't.

 

Blowing a 21-point lead is what decided the game.

 

That was the whole point of me posting this.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

But giving the team a 2nd chance at a FG is deciding the game to a degree.

 

The Buccs did blow it in the 4th quarter but the refs still played a huge role in the decision.

[alfdogg 0]

I'm not denying that Mad Dog, I do think it's bullshit, though, that most people here (not you) don't even seem to be acknowledging them blowing the lead, they want to point the finger at only the bad call as why the Colts won, and that's bullshit.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Your just looking at a bitter Browns fan.

 

That 01 game agaisnt the Jags still pisses me off to this day.

[Guest El Satanico]

Of course the terrible call wasn't the only or even the main reason why Tampa lost. No one here made that claim, you're just putting words in their mouths.

 

You can spin it however you want, but the leaping call did directly affect the outcome. Without the call Indy doesn't win the game at that point. What happens after the missed FG doesn't matter.

 

Of course Tampa shouldn't have been in that situation, but the game turned out differently and it all came down to that horrible call.

 

What exactly is your point? If a team lets another team make a big comeback we should ignore the game ending on a terrible call?

 

Also you said "oh what a heroic way for the champs to win" when it looked like Tampa may win off a bad call. Why didn't you say the same thing about the Colts when they won off a bad call?

 

 

Why does a team making a big comeback mean that the other team doesn't deserve to win? Unless there's cheating involved both teams deserve to win. Of course the team making the comeback deserves the game more, but if the other team survives the comeback and wins they deserve it as well.

[CanadianChris 0]

The NFL said the refs made the correct call.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1632537

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

They said that about the Browns/Jags game in 01 when they clearly broke the rules.

 

Typical NFL circling the wagons.

[razazteca 0]

It was Leaping not Lifting but thats besides the point. The call was BS and it was not the only one of the quarter. The running into the punter call was total BS also as the punter keeped his leg high and lost his balance then conviently tripped over the Colt defender after the fact.

[Dr. Tom 0]

It's a stupid rule. The Ravens lost a game because of it last year. The kicker is on the field to kick a field goal. The defenders are on the field to STOP him from kicking that field goal. Sure, you shouldn't be able to give your teammate a boost, but making a leap to block the kick and brushing a teammate on the way down is an absurd thing to call a penalty.

 

It's like the "tuck rule" flap: the refs got the call right, but the rule is stupid.

[razazteca 0]

I hate the QB rule of defending fumbles as incomplete foward passes.

[alfdogg 0]

Of course the terrible call wasn't the only or even the main reason why Tampa lost. No one here made that claim, you're just putting words in their mouths.

I said they don't SEEM to be acknowledging that. I never said anyone made that claim.

 

You can spin it however you want, but the leaping call did directly affect the outcome. Without the call Indy doesn't win the game at that point.

 

I believe I DID say that in my initial post.

 

What exactly is your point? If a team lets another team make a big comeback we should ignore the game ending on a terrible call?

 

Of course not. But we should at least CREDIT the team for their comeback while we acknowledge the call, which most people didn't SEEM to be doing.

 

Also you said "oh what a heroic way for the champs to win" when it looked like Tampa may win off a bad call. Why didn't you say the same thing about the Colts when they won off a bad call?

 

I don't know, I guess I thought coming back from 21 down in less than 5 minutes to force an OT was heroic enough. Stupid me.

 

Why does a team making a big comeback mean that the other team doesn't deserve to win? Unless there's cheating involved both teams deserve to win. Of course the team making the comeback deserves the game more, but if the other team survives the comeback and wins they deserve it as well.

 

I'll end my rebuttal by giving you this argument. That is a very good point.