Some drama.....

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She didn't get the number. She was probably too worried about being run off the road or something. Hindsight is 20/20.

Run off the road? While the other car is in front of her and turning onto an exit ramp? What the fuck kind of car was it? Did it have wings?

 

Your main problem is with her and the way she's fawned over, not the situation.

No, that's my secondary point. The primary point is still the atrocious and absurd way she mishandled the situation.

Well...maybe it did have wings. Lets not make assumptions.

[Firestarter 0]

But with the lack of fawning (although, I will start if need be) that can't really be a issue.

What matters is her obvious intent, not whether she got what she wanted or not. And to the extent that people are still trying to excuse her ineptitude, she got at least part of what she wanted: validation and reassurance that she didn't really act like a silly nit. To counteract that, I'll keep pointing out that she did indeed act like a silly nit.

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But with the lack of fawning (although, I will start if need be) that can't really be a issue.

What matters is her obvious intent, not whether she got what she wanted or not. And to the extent that people are still trying to excuse her ineptitude, she got at least part of what she wanted: validation and reassurance that she didn't really act like a silly nit. To counteract that, I'll keep pointing out that she did indeed act like a silly nit.

Heh...you said "nit"

 

But I don't think the actions DURING the situation were being silly. I do think she greatly overreacted after the thing was over and that its really not that bad, but like I said, some are more emotional than others. So unless you are calling emotional people silly...nits...(and I have a feeling that you are)...

 

I...I have no idea how to end that sentence...suggestions?

[Firestarter 0]

How about you try to explain her not stopping when she saw the police car?

[Ripper 0]

How about you try to explain her not stopping when she saw the police car?

One hundred percent pure stupidity(sorry SSD). But at the same time, she was a overreacting headcase by then. But stopping definately would have been the best way to handle it.

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One hundred percent pure stupidity(sorry SSD).  But at the same time, she was a overreacting headcase by then.  But stopping definately would have been the best way to handle it.

And considering the fact that she had an absolutely GOLDEN opportunity to get the license plate when the other car turned onto the 52 E exit, and that that opportunity occurred AFTER you yourself say she was an "overreacting headcase," do you still think that there's no reason to criticise her actions? By your own admission, and going by the sequence of events she related, you've defeated your own argument.

 

Thanks.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Acting the wrong way in a situation happens to the best of us. It's wrong to flame SSD for acting in the way she did because during her "ordeal" her instinct was not to look at the plate. You can't help the way you act in situations like that: instinct just kicks in, and it's unfair to put her down over something ahe has no control over.

[Firestarter 0]

It's wrong to flame SSD for acting in the way she did because during her "ordeal" her instinct was not to look at the plate.

WHY THE BLUE BLAZING HELL NOT?

 

You can't help the way you act in situations like that: instinct just kicks in, and it's unfair to put her down over something ahe has no control over.

So anytime anyone is subject to any amount of stress, no one should be allowed to criticise her actions? Funny, we put soldiers on trial for war crimes. Or are you claiming that SNSD was under more stress than soldiers in war zones, and thus had relatively diminished capacity?

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One hundred percent pure stupidity(sorry SSD).  But at the same time, she was a overreacting headcase by then.   But stopping definately would have been the best way to handle it.

And considering the fact that she had an absolutely GOLDEN opportunity to get the license plate when the other car turned onto the 52 E exit, and that that opportunity occurred AFTER you yourself say she was an "overreacting headcase," do you still think that there's no reason to criticise her actions? By your own admission, and going by the sequence of events she related, you've defeated your own argument.

 

Thanks.

No, I haven't defeated my own argument. I never said what she did was a good way of handling the situation. She was in a situation and freaked out. You behind a computer desk are looking for all of the things that should have calmly came to her mind, it didn't come to her. Its like critisizing someone for coughing instead of clearing their throat earlier.

[EL BRUJ0 0]

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Nice work, Sherlock. Y'all got me completely figured out. Of course, this must mean that I suffer from Down's syndrome or something because you also point out that she got little sympathy in the first place.

Nice that my joke was sold, yet the other points were no-sold. Who's booking this thread, the WWWEEE?

 

And don't call me Sherlock, unless you want to continue by calling me other literary names.

 

<---*has literary name calling fetish*

 

Here's a list:

 

Dr. Faust

Big Brother

Conan

Bum-Cleaver

McBeth

Dr. Manhattan

Crucifixio Jones (mine, and yours, favorite)

[Firestarter 0]

I never said what she did was a good way of handling the situation.  She was in a situation and freaked out.

Fine, but why? Because, in your apropos phrase, she was an "overreacting headcase." I don't think it's unfair to criticise her for being an overreacting headcase. She was never in any personal danger of any kind. Her imagination ran away with her and she at least figuratively wet her pants for that reason and that reason alone. I find that absurd and disgusting in an adult.

Subsequently, of course, as even you freely admit, her behaviour didn't even have the flimsiest facsimile of an excuse.

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Nice that my joke was sold, yet the other points were no-sold.

Your joke was better than your argument.

 

And don't call me Sherlock, unless you want to continue by calling me other literary names.

Right ho, Sir Falstaff.

[Ripper 0]

I never said what she did was a good way of handling the situation.  She was in a situation and freaked out.

Fine, but why? Because, in your apropos phrase, she was an "overreacting headcase." I don't think it's unfair to criticise her for being an overreacting headcase. She was never in any personal danger of any kind. Her imagination ran away with her and she at least figuratively wet her pants for that reason and that reason alone. I find that absurd and disgusting in an adult.

Subsequently, of course, as even you freely admit, her behaviour didn't even have the flimsiest fascimile of an excuse.

Okay. We are in a bank. Someguy pulls out the biggest fucking gun EVER and screams "DONT MOVE OR I'LL BLOW YOUR MUTHA FUCKING HEAD OFF".

 

Me personally, would not overreact, listen to what gun toating psycho wants and do it. Mostly because I have been in the situation and I remain freakishly calm all the time. Someone else who has never seen a gun before, starts to cry and shake and say...piss themselves. Another person screams and begs don't kill us.

 

No body handled the situation wrong or right. They handled it the way they are equiped to handle it. Fight or flight, Marney. Once you get into the natural human reaction you and I both know that sane, rational decisions are usually out the window. If she had remained calm, she never would have gotten into that state. But she didn't and human nature occured. You are ranting on her because she had a fight or flight response and didn't handle it correctly. The part you told her what she should have done, cool. If you want to mock her for being a punk ass, fine. But in the same light we have the right to be understanding and it isn't because there are "boobs in her avatar", its because we undertand that overreactions are sometimes the natural reaction that people have.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

It's wrong to flame SSD for acting in the way she did because during her "ordeal" her instinct was not to look at the plate.

WHY THE BLUE BLAZING HELL NOT?

 

You can't help the way you act in situations like that: instinct just kicks in, and it's unfair to put her down over something ahe has no control over.

So anytime anyone is subject to any amount of stress, no one should be allowed to criticise her actions? Funny, we put soldiers on trial for war crimes. Or are you claiming that SNSD was under more stress than soldiers in war zones, and thus had relatively diminished capacity?

There's a difference between being chased, and your instinct kicking in and not happening to look at a licence plate, and war crimes. Not your best analogy there.

 

In my view, you shouldn't flame SSD for the way she acted under pressure. Her actions after this (such as when she got onto the board), on the other hand, are harder to defend.

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its because we undertand that overreactions are sometimes the natural reaction that people have.

Which can and should be controlled.

 

Okay.  We are in a bank.  Someguy pulls out the biggest fucking gun EVER and screams "DONT MOVE OR I'LL BLOW YOUR MUTHA FUCKING HEAD OFF".

Not in the same ballpark. Not even close.

 

Once you get into the natural human reaction you and I both know that sane, rational decisions are usually out the window.

True. But adults have a responsibility to act sanely and rationally and overcome any tendency towards hysterics that they might have.

 

You are ranting on her because she had a fight or flight response and didn't handle it correctly

Yes. In fact, she handled it spectacularly incorrectly. If I were to sit down and come up with a list of things NOT to do in that situation, most of her actions would be on it. About the only things she could have done to make it worse would have been to slam her car into his or to stop and get out of her car.

 

The part you told her what she should have done, cool.  If you want to mock her for being a punk ass, fine.  But in the same light we have the right to be understanding and it isn't because there are "boobs in her avatar"

No?

[JHawk 0]

You know Marney, i really do like you. I like the fact that you can speak your mind and you don't really give a rat's ass what any of us think. It;s a good quality. But why is it that anytime anybody does something that you wouldn't have done, you have to go off the deep end and treat it like it's a personal front against you or something? "She didn't get the plate, so she's obviously stupid." No, she didn't get the plate because A) it was dark and B) these jackasses reversed their direction in order to follow her and her friend off the exit ramp. Jesus Christ, does nobody have the right to drive on the fucking freeway without being chased anymore?

 

I will give you that she should have stopped when she got to the cop. of course, since the cop pretty much ignored somebody doing about 85 mph, maybe the cop would have been all "i'm on break" and completely ignored that four strange people were chasing her at 2:30 in the fucking morning!

 

But hey, you would have done it differently, so she must be wrong, right?

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There's a difference between being chased, and your instinct kicking in and not happening to look at a licence plate, and war crimes. Not your best analogy there.

If you like. But noting an aggressive driver's license plate should be the second instinct of every person behind a steering wheel (the first, naturally, being to keep yourself and others out of danger). If it isn't, it means you're a piss-poor driver.

 

In my view, you shouldn't flame SSD for the way she acted under pressure.

Here we disagree.

 

Her actions after this (such as when she got onto the board), on the other hand, are harder to defend.

Here we agree.

[Ripper 0]

But in the same light we have the right to be understanding and it isn't because there are "boobs in her avatar"

No?

No. It isn't.

 

Just to prove it, take a picture of your boobs(or ass which ever is easier), put it in the avatar and I will still disagree with you.

 

 

*waits for picture*

[EL BRUJ0 0]

All I'm asking is where on this board are posters tripping over their own feet to rush to the aid of the poor and helpless diva? Since I don't see a "OneAndOnlySweetNSexyDivaHadATerryingExperienceComeAndGiveYourUndyingSympath

y" thread, I'm going to continue to regard this as a funny, but unnecessary, menses-soaked rant.

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of course, since the cop pretty much ignored somebody doing about 85 mph, maybe the cop would have been all "i'm on break" and completely ignored that four strange people were chasing her at 2:30 in the fucking morning!

I don't know any police officer who'd do that. Much more likely is that the officer in question was busy with something else and couldn't leave the scene. He'd still have helped if she'd stopped.

 

No, she didn't get the plate because A) it was dark and B) these jackasses reversed their direction in order to follow her and her friend off the exit ramp.

How do you know? Were you in the car with her? And wasn't the best opportunity to get the plate when the jackasses fled up 52 E? What was the problem then? Were her headlights not working? (Oh, shut up. Yes, we've been talking about her tits because she makes them the centrepiece of her personality, but that wasn't a double entendre.)

 

But hey, you would have done it differently, so she must be wrong, right?

Probably, yes.

[Firestarter 0]

take a picture of your boobs(or ass which ever is easier), put it in the avatar and I will still disagree with you.

Nice try. <g>

[Ripper 0]

All I'm asking is where on this board are posters tripping over their own feet to rush to the aid of the poor and helpless diva? Since I don't see a "OneAndOnlySweetNSexyDivaHadATerryingExperienceComeAndGiveYourUndyingSympath

y" thread, I'm going to continue to regard this as a funny, but unnecessary, menses-soaked rant.

You do know someone is going to start that thread now, right?

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a funny, but unnecessary, menses-soaked rant.

Doesn't that describe pretty much every thread in NHB?

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

In my view, you shouldn't flame SSD for the way she acted under pressure.

Here we disagree..

Have you never done something you shouldn't have done under pressure? Even when you were younger?

[Ripper 0]

a funny, but unnecessary, menses-soaked rant.

Doesn't that describe pretty much every thread in NHB?

*Looks around*

 

 

Yes...yes it does.

[Firestarter 0]

Have you never done something you shouldn't have done under pressure? Even when you were younger?

I've answered that question already. Yes, I have. Many times. But I didn't make a public spectacle of myself subsequently, and if I had, and anyone had criticised my behaviour, I wouldn't have rejected the criticism on the grounds that I was acting instinctively under pressure and I wasn't responsible for my actions. That's one of the cheapest cop-outs I've ever heard in my life.

[EL BRUJ0 0]

You do know someone is going to start that thread now, right?

 

And the moment that happens, I'll be there with:

 

"This thread is ghey."

 

Also, Marney will be right about people bending over backwards due to b00bage.

[Ripper 0]

Well, Tom has boob and ass in his avatar and everyone basically ignores that asshole...

 

 

 

 

Is he kidding? Is he?...

[Firestarter 0]

They're not his boobs, though.

 

Trust me. Tom doesn't have that even a tan.

[JHawk 0]

of course, since the cop pretty much ignored somebody doing about 85 mph, maybe the cop would have been all "i'm on break" and completely ignored that four strange people were chasing her at 2:30 in the fucking morning!

I don't know any police officer who'd do that. Much more likely is that the officer in question was busy with something else and couldn't leave the scene. He'd still have helped if she'd stopped.

 

What the fuck else could he have been busy with at 2:30 in the morning? Brushing his teeth? Getting a catnap before his morning doughnut?

 

No, she didn't get the plate because A) it was dark and B) these jackasses reversed their direction in order to follow her and her friend off the exit ramp.

How do you know? Were you in the car with her?

 

Because she actually called about 12 hours before she posted it here, so details like that were fresh in her mind. Her fault for leaving that out of her post, I guess.

 

And wasn't the best opportunity to get the plate when the jackasses fled up 52 E? What was the problem then? Were her headlights not working? (Oh, shut up. Yes, we've been talking about her tits because she makes them the centrepiece of her personality, but that wasn't a double entendre.)

 

Yeah, because you can easily take a look at a number and read it when it starts moving further away from you.

 

But hey, you would have done it differently, so she must be wrong, right?

Probably, yes.

 

It's nice to see your ego isn't hurt by your trauma of reading a situation somebody else had. I'd call that flaming somebody for the sake of flaming.

 

By the way, why did you bother clicking the link in general chat if you don't like people making a public spectacle of their lives?