Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Well....usually stuff involving Flair/Michaels is gold. They have a chemistry between them. I remember how much I wanted to see Flair/Michaels when they were having all of there confontations last year before Bad Blood. The actual match blew but the stuff leading up was gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Yeah, we have one of the worst promo men vs. some insane old dude.. fantastic chemistry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 It did...somehow. I mean they were building towards the HHH/Flair match and I was like "Screw that! Let's see Flair/Michaels now!" Which we eventually got and it was about what you'd expect from a cripple who thinks he's super man and a 55 year old wrestler..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted October 14, 2003 The main reason for the jump in ratings is everyone was expecting Nash to return to collect the bounty! Well that's why I watched at least. sssshhhhH!!! they may be reading and think your serious... now its probably planned for next week DAMNIT I was serious. And it is planned, but I'm not sure when. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Maybe it's because I can't stand Michaels and don't think much of Flair (and hate Flair marks) that I didn't really enjoy that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Well I absolutely despise Michaels...as you know from my many debates. But I still liked the interviews.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 If it were the Heel Shawn...I'd love it but not goody two shoes Shawn... Flair Babyface against cocky asshole heel would have been better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Maybe it's because I can't stand Michaels and don't think much of Flair (and hate Flair marks) that I didn't really enjoy that. Flair is the MAN he's the best man at the promo on Raw is Crap that never worked for ECW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Jericho owns Flair pal... and what does ECW have to do with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 All of the best promo and interview talent used to work at ECW and that includes Jericho, Austin, Stevie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 The thing is that most of those guys that everyone goes crazy about working at ECW before anywhere else is...they were only working there to get there name out. They didn't give two shits about the company because they were only there to springboard into the Big 2. People need to stop acting like ECW created all these great stars...it was merely a stepping stone to the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Stevie? What the fuck? Get him off this fucking list you god damn Mutant. and Being a part of ECW had ZERO effect on Jericho's talent on the mic as he was fucking mute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 The thing is that most of those guys that everyone goes crazy about working at ECW before anywhere else is...they were only working there to get there name out. They didn't give two shits about the company because they were only there to springboard into the Big 2. People need to stop acting like ECW created all these great stars...it was merely a stepping stone to the top. EXACTLY. Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, Melenko, Mysterio were all there for like 3 months and merely used it to collect money... Look at the biggest name ECW ever had...A Over rated stall happy spot botching pot smoking ego manaic (character) that had no CONCEPT of working a match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Jericho owns Flair pal... Please tell me you're kidding...PLEASE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 14, 2003 The thing is that most of those guys that everyone goes crazy about working at ECW before anywhere else is...they were only working there to get there name out. They didn't give two shits about the company because they were only there to springboard into the Big 2. People need to stop acting like ECW created all these great stars...it was merely a stepping stone to the top. Wha... you mean... ECW wasn't Happy Wrestling Land and a modern-day Utopia? Next you're going to say that Heyman wasn't the father figure that the wrestlingexposed.com columnist said he was!! Thanks a lot. Now I won't be able to sleep tonight. Bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Haters, Stevie got Victoria over, Austin and Mankind were made in EC F'N Dub. Look at the biggest name ECW ever had...A Over rated stall happy spot botching pot smoking ego manaic (character) that had no CONCEPT of working a match... Can I be serious for a moment, you spoiled CALGARY ALBERTA CANADiAn fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 HBK sucks as a face, he seriously needs to go heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Jericho owns Flair pal... Please tell me you're kidding...PLEASE! aren't we talking currently because Flair hasn't really been inspired on the mic outside of the brilliant promo before the HHH Match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Haters, Stevie got Victoria over, Austin and Mankind were made in EC F'N Dub. Look at the biggest name ECW ever had...A Over rated stall happy spot botching pot smoking ego manaic (character) that had no CONCEPT of working a match... Can I be serious for a moment, you spoiled CALGARY ALBERTA CANADiAn fan. You just called me a Canadian? I can't think of a worse insult... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Are you angry that Flair vs Maven did not happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Haters, Stevie got Victoria over, Austin and Mankind were made in EC F'N Dub. I loved ECW to death, but they did not make Austin. You could make a case for Foley, but not Austin. He was already over in WCW (pre-Hogan anyway), and while he showed a lot of charisma in his ECW run, he was only there for about 3 months, not enough time to even suggest that ECW made him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Haters, Stevie got Victoria over, Austin and Mankind were made in EC F'N Dub. Look at the biggest name ECW ever had...A Over rated stall happy spot botching pot smoking ego manaic (character) that had no CONCEPT of working a match... Can I be serious for a moment, you spoiled CALGARY ALBERTA CANADiAn fan. Sure they were. Austin was nothing until he became Stonecold in the WWF. But I remember the Ringmaster setting the world on fire. He got fired from WCW and went to ECW where he used it as a transition to WWF. Foley wasn't made by ECW. Foley was made by the King of the Death Match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 (edited) Flair actually provides pretty good comedy relief for me. Watching him flip out last night on the stick was hilarious. Jericho's program with Austin is actually going somewhere now. Finally we've made progress. I don't know which one owns the other, but right now, i'm SLIGHTLY leaning towards Jericho < Flair. Oh, and I've ALWAYS hated Michaels. Can't stand him. But I'll be damned if he didn't put a smile on my face when he superkicked Goldberg. Edited October 15, 2003 by CM Funk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Not getting paid in ECW can make a wrestler a harden man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Haters, Stevie got Victoria over, Austin and Mankind were made in EC F'N Dub. Look at the biggest name ECW ever had...A Over rated stall happy spot botching pot smoking ego manaic (character) that had no CONCEPT of working a match... Can I be serious for a moment, you spoiled CALGARY ALBERTA CANADiAn fan. Sure they were. Austin was nothing until he became Stonecold in the WWF. But I remember the Ringmaster setting the world on fire. He got fired from WCW and went to ECW where he used it as a transition to WWF. Foley wasn't made by ECW. Foley was made by the King of the Death Match. "Stunning" Steve was awesome and would have been main eventing if politics didn't get in the way. So Austin wasn't exactly nothing before Stone Cold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Austin was being groomed as was pretty much HHH in Mid 1999 before he got fired...so it's not like he was DISCOVERED in ecw... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Glad it rised, I enjoyed Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 But the character of Stone Cold and its foundation was made in the bingo hall. Next week's rating will not change much if any. 3.5 forever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 But the character of Stone Cold and its foundation was made in the bingo hall. Not really. Superstar Steve Austin was a cocky, arrogant asshole that thought he was greatest thing ever to happen to the promotion and thought he was better than everyone in it. Stone Cold was a cold-hearted loner that didn't give a damn about anyone but himself. Austin's swearing was the only real similarity between the two characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Oh I find Flair enjoyable, in that "dance for me monkey, you're a good monkey" kinda way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
