MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 :::Shakes fist in ANGER~!... and CONFUSION~!:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 one of my early picks for fantasy baseball: Javier Vazquez I'm hesitant to trust someone without a real track record, pitching in the American League, and the Yankees for the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 one of my early picks for fantasy baseball: Javier Vazquez I'm hesitant to trust someone without a real track record, pitching in the American League, and the Yankees for the first time. Three solid years isn't a track record? He's got great peripherals, good ERAs, and consider that he's pitched in a difficult environment for pitchers. I'd draft Vazquez in a heartbeat. Consider that he'll get killer run support this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Three solid years? He was 10-13, with a 3.91 in 2002. The numbers aren't horrible, but they should be better with Vazquez's talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 2, 2004 one of my early picks for fantasy baseball: Javier Vazquez I'm hesitant to trust someone without a real track record, pitching in the American League, and the Yankees for the first time. Three solid years isn't a track record? He's got great peripherals, good ERAs, and consider that he's pitched in a difficult environment for pitchers. I'd draft Vazquez in a heartbeat. Consider that he'll get killer run support this season. Also consider he'll have one of the shittiest defenses playing behind him as well. He'll be good for K's and keeping your ERA down but wins and WHIP may suffer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 one of my early picks for fantasy baseball: Javier Vazquez I'm hesitant to trust someone without a real track record, pitching in the American League, and the Yankees for the first time. May God have mercy on his soul if he doesn't deliver. That's all there is to it. Luckily for him, he has three ways to be considered a success here. a) Be better than Clemens was b) Be better than Wells was. c) Be better than Pettitte was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Three solid years? He was 10-13, with a 3.91 in 2002. The numbers aren't horrible, but they should be better with Vazquez's talent. And he only went 13-12 last year, but he does have a better team behind him this year, so the win record will be better. He damn well better hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Three solid years? He was 10-13, with a 3.91 in 2002. The numbers aren't horrible, but they should be better with Vazquez's talent. He lost five or six games 1-0 or 2-1 because the Expos couldn't score. It was sad and I was begging that the Expos trade him cause I liked the guy when he was a Delmarva Shorebird. The Yankees got a steal with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The Yankees got a steal with him. Uhm...no. We gave up some valuable guys as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The only real reason I'm a little nervous is that we just got done with a "well, some of his numbers aren't that good, but he was on a bad team!" experiment. We all know who I'm talking about, no need to mention it's name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 You're favorite player AS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 You're favorite player AS? If that's what you want to call that...thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Three solid years? He was 10-13, with a 3.91 in 2002. The numbers aren't horrible, but they should be better with Vazquez's talent. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/current/...wlreport03.html Bow down Vern! Top 30 ML Starters (ranked by SNWs over a .425 pitcher): Vazquez #7 Unluckiest 10 ML Starters (ranked by (W - E(W)) + (E(L) - L)): Vazquez #8 Javier, with LEAGUE AVERAGE run support, wins 16 games and loses 9 in 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Three solid years? He was 10-13, with a 3.91 in 2002. The numbers aren't horrible, but they should be better with Vazquez's talent. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/current/...wlreport03.html Bow down Vern! Top 30 ML Starters (ranked by SNWs over a .425 pitcher): Vazquez #7 Unluckiest 10 ML Starters (ranked by (W - E(W)) + (E(L) - L)): Vazquez #8 Javier, with LEAGUE AVERAGE run support, wins 16 games and loses 9 in 2003. Well, like I said, he has his run support now. He better win like 16 or 17. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 one of my early picks for fantasy baseball: Javier Vazquez I'm hesitant to trust someone without a real track record, pitching in the American League, and the Yankees for the first time. May God have mercy on his soul if he doesn't deliver. That's all there is to it. Luckily for him, he has three ways to be considered a success here. a) Be better than Clemens was b) Be better than Wells was. c) Be better than Pettitte was. 2003 Win Shares Vazquez 21 Clemens 15 Pettitte 15 Wells 14 Mussina 19 Rivera 18 Contreras 7 Weaver 2 Hammond 7 Osuna 4 I think Vazquez will work out just fine. Olympic Stadium has been killer on pitchers the last few years. A move to Yankees Stadium should improve Vazquez. The only thing that would derail him is injury, but he hasn't missed a start in 2-3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 He should do well. But then again, Weaver should have done well. Aaron Boone should have hit a god damned ball occasionally. There can be a big differences between what logic says someone should do and what they end up doing. And unlike some people, I don't give second chances. (ie. There were some people willing to keep The Dream Wrecker and hope that he stopped sucking) You get one chance here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Aaron Boone did hit the ball once, in game 7 of the ALCS. It's funny, because for all the bellyaching about the Yankees offense in the World Series, the Marlins actually hit much worse (232/281/300). It only goes to show that you can't guarantee a victory. All you can do is stack the cards and hope for the best. As for Vazquez, he's no worse a risk to suck than Andy Pettitte. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Aaron Boone did hit the ball once, in game 7 of the ALCS. Lotta good that did. the Marlins actually hit much worse (232/281/300). Thet hit when it mattered. As for Vazquez, he's no worse a risk to suck than Andy Pettitte. Andy Pettitte gave me reason to trust him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The Pete Rose reinstatement issue is going to start making its rounds again soon. Rose has a book coming out next week, and there's been underground rumblings of a deal between Selig and Rose for nearly a year. Fay Vincent checks in with a letter in the NY Times.... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/02/opinion/...&partner=GOOGLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/base...k.ap/index.html Yankees are close to signing Tony Clark. I don't see why they feel the need, with Fernando Seguignol already on the roster, and a better hitter to boot. Between Clark, Miguel Cairo, and Enrique Wilson, the Yankees seemed dedicated to not stocking any decent reserves this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 2, 2004 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/base...k.ap/index.html Yankees are close to signing Tony Clark. I don't see why they feel the need, Smoke and mirrors. They feel that doing this will take attention off the fact that the ship seems to be sinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2004 http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?...11291074080.xml Mets sign Braden Looper to a two year contract worth $6.5 million. I think Looper will get past his postseason struggles, and even if he can't, the Mets are used to this kind of thing from their closers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Looper won't have to worry about struggling in the post season since he signed with the Mets if ya catch my drift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Its likely the Mets will miss out, but stranger things have happened. Who would've thought the Marlins would make the postseason last season (besides Mik)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Braden Looper was the Marlin with the perma-grin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Its likely the Mets will miss out, but stranger things have happened. Who would've thought the Marlins would make the postseason last season (besides Mik)? That's the exception rather than the rule. The seven other teams were either the ovrwhelming favorite going into the year or one of the team that was at least in the running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Its likely the Mets will miss out, but stranger things have happened. Who would've thought the Marlins would make the postseason last season (besides Mik)? That's the exception rather than the rule. The seven other teams were either the ovrwhelming favorite going into the year or one of the team that was at least in the running. I'd say 6, the Twins seemed to be there just because someone had to be there from the AL Central. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2004 Its likely the Mets will miss out, but stranger things have happened. Who would've thought the Marlins would make the postseason last season (besides Mik)? That's the exception rather than the rule. The seven other teams were either the ovrwhelming favorite going into the year or one of the team that was at least in the running. I'd say 6, the Twins seemed to be there just because someone had to be there from the AL Central. Yeah, but a lot of people were giving the Twins a good shot at at least making it to the ALCS, given that that was going to be the last year they could keep that team together. I know I expected them to win going away...I was very surprised at the start they had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2004 Its likely the Mets will miss out, but stranger things have happened. Who would've thought the Marlins would make the postseason last season (besides Mik)? That's the exception rather than the rule. The seven other teams were either the ovrwhelming favorite going into the year or one of the team that was at least in the running. Well, other teams like the Royals, Expos, and Blue Jays performed better than expected. The point is that there are so many variables that anything can happen in a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2004 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/base...opkins.obit.ap/ Paul Hopkins, believed to be the oldest major league player, dies at the age of 99. Hopkins made his debut in 1927, in the same game which Babe Ruth hit his record tying 59th home run. The new oldest living major leaguer is believed to be Ray Cunningham. Negro league star Ted "Double Duty" Radcliff is probably the oldest living ballplayer of any kind. Radcliff is 101 years old, and still kicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
