Hate to say I told you so...

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Went to BAZOOKA'S bar in Bridgewater, NJ...nice crowd there...lotsa people in Undertaker (?!?) shirts, and a mostly college crowd.

 

Team Angle Vs. Team Lesnar

 

Loud cheers for Cena's freestyles...Angle gets biggest response. atch was good, but the ridiculous quick eliminations hurt. Holly got laughed at. As did Train and Bradshaw. Crowd popped for Angle Slam and Anklelock. Didnt care that Angle was eliminated. Lesnar got NO response or cares from the crowd. Of course, Cena's F-U on Big Show they went nuts for.

 

Good stuff, Cena and Benoit put over big time...and hopefully Angle/Lesnar is done with for a long time.

 

Lita Vs. Molly Holly

 

Decent match considering Lita. The crowd was actually kinda into it, as was I, surprisingly. Right person went over.

 

Kane Vs. Shane McMahon

 

I had no expectations...but this was booked almost flawlessly until the anticlimatic ending. Nice bumps, Shane outsmarting Kane...and Kane brutalizing Shane...exactly what shoulda happened. Still, anticlimatic for 4+ months of buildup. right guy went over.

 

Orton RKO's Mark Cuban. Was really fun, nice reaction from crowd.

Fuck you hates...Orton keeps getting better and better. You'll realize it sooner or later.

 

Los Guerreros Vs. The Bashams.

TOTALLY digged the Demolition 2003 look for Doug & Danny Basham, they are gaining more and more credibility. Good, fast paced match...a little short. Ending was a little iffy, but the right tea went over.

 

THE RIGHT PEOPLE GOING OVER? OMG..."Survivor Series is gonna suck yo, HHH blowz, who'll get blamed for the buyrate, WAH WAH Orton sucks!"

 

Yeah, you people can take the foot out of your mouth anytime now! This show was better than any of your goddamn NWA-TNA shows, with the exception of the Super X Tourney, I'll give you that.

 

Team Austin Vs. Team Bischoff.

I thought the lack of entrances was a nice touch. These teams weren't "loners" paired up...they were UNITS. This match was awesome on so many levels. One, Booker T gets taken out early. Two, that useless piece of shit, Mark Henry, was used properly, and got a great response from the bar I was at...a big dumb slug that overpowers and actually LOOKED LIKE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING~! Anyway, RVD and Jericho were both on and the bar crowd appreciated it. HBK stole the show, with an actual interesting "superhuman comeback". I think everyone (and a lot of you) thought HBK was pinning Orton after the Stunner, and on RAW they'd "have a rematch due to Austin's interference"...and were ready to bitch online. Enter Batista, again, solidified properly, and AGAIN, THE RIGHT TEAM GOES OVER. Orton didn't look super, but he looked good during the bout.

 

Buried Alive

Alright...short, so no complaining. Served it's purpose, to put over Kane even more, make Vince be the luck asshole, and get Taker off TV for a bit. Crowd was kinda dull.

 

World Title Match

I left halfway through, not b/c of the match, but to get home. Goldberg did some shady selling of the ankle, I saw. Too much power stuff. Decent for what I saw, crowd hated BG, some chanted for HHH.

 

Anyway, a really entertaining show, for me anyway. Hope you all liked it.

 

Only complaint, there was a little TOO MUCH jammed into this show...obviously Noble/Tajiri got cut...some matches should've had mmore time.

 

Flame, HHHate, Cry about whatever, or maybe be happy for once, away...

[The Mandarin 0]

It was a LOOONG three hours. Not a bad thing, though.

 

VERY action packed. More so than some WrestleManias. Order the replay, I say.

[JHawk 0]

Eh, I still don't get how Booker T and Rob Van Dam could be the first two eliminated in the Raw elimination match. I mean, Heaven forbid two guys that are somewhat over get elevated.

 

I still can't get how Hardcore Holly was eliminated for shoving a ref before the bell when Orton wasn't disqualified for outside interference (Jericho's chair shot after his elimination).

 

Overall a good show though.

[tpww7 0]

Yeah, you people can take the foot out of your mouth anytime now! This show was better than any of your goddamn NWA-TNA shows, with the exception of the Super X Tourney, I'll give you that.

Its not that hard to do better than TNA nowadays, and the show wasent very good. Just because the right people went over, doesent make the show great. The matches overall were not good, the top being the Raw tag at ***.

[Tawren 0]

I tried to be objective, but I thought SurSer sucked serious ass. Hot crowd does not automatically equal **** classic. Nothing over ** to me. Plus (just so you don't go "so what if the workrate sucked, it was fun") it bored the shit out of me.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

I actually kinda dug Booker T and RVD going quickly...like, when the eliminations occur in the order of how OVER the guys are (see the "Winner Take All" match at SS 2001) it gets boring.

 

With HBK left against Orton/Xtian/Y2J, some unique possibility were established.

 

Does Orton get a huge win? Does Jericho claim the glory?

 

Or does Michaels do an absolutely awesome match, comeback, bladejob, and postmatch sell.

 

This was truly, one of HBK's finest performances...I almost thought it was 1996 again. He was quick, nailed everything, sold a beating, gushed, had sensical comebacks, no kip-up while bleeding like a stuck pig (just one earlier when he was fresh), and he put over two young guys in Batista and Orton.

 

Well I guess all the 1996 stuff is true except putting people over. But maybe the Sid/Batista comparisons can be drawn.

[claydude14 0]

I still can't get how Hardcore Holly was eliminated for shoving a ref before the bell when Orton wasn't disqualified for outside interference (Jericho's chair shot after his elimination).

Uhh, let's claim it's because of the matches being from different brands, thus different officials have different outlooks on things. Yea, that's a logical way of explaining it.

[Michrome 0]

My only problem is giving HBK that huge rub from Austin...why not do it for Booker T? HBK is already a huge star, he doesn't need that rub.

[Downhome 0]

My only problem is giving HBK that huge rub from Austin...why not do it for Booker T? HBK is already a huge star, he doesn't need that rub.

Because they have a story to tell, unlike Austin/Booker T.

 

Austin and HBK have a "historic" past with one another, it was just fitting for it to be all about those two in the end.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

The RAW tag at ***? ARE YOU NUTS?

 

Definately ****, in my opinion. The GOOD talent hit every of the sigs, in a sensical manner, and even the lugs (Dudleys, Henry) worked very hard and looked like they belong.

 

The crowd was piping hot...the match told a great story...the work was very hard, the ending surprising...

 

I guess some people can't be satisifed.

 

Like, this is WWE...there's huge stars...they're "expected" to do so perfectly...so you lower your scales...

 

But you guys give like, an indy match or that AMW/XXX cage match (which was good) these "**** match! This is how WWE should do it!" ratings that they don't deserve...I don't get it.

 

Man, that tag was great.

 

Who the hell just said it was "not above **" ? Do you think before you type?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

My only problem is giving HBK that huge rub from Austin...why not do it for Booker T?  HBK is already a huge star, he doesn't need that rub.

Because they have a story to tell, unlike Austin/Booker T.

 

Austin and HBK have a "historic" past with one another, it was just fitting for it to be all about those two in the end.

Let's not forget that Booker T is black and that white people are better then black people. Can't forget that.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Micrhome, because Booker T will forever be a midcarder who gets Rikishi/Undertaker pops and spins around on his ass.

 

He is boring and his ringwork was rewarded by Mark Henry pinning him.

 

That's why the only "rub" he will get is the eraser of a pencil scratching his name from the WM XX card, if justice exists.

[Tawren 0]

Who the hell just said it was "not above **" ? Do you think before you type?

Maybe because it sucked? OMG WOW HBK HIT A SUPERKICK~! So what? It was a bad match. If you have a tape, go back and watch it. It sucked.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Its probably the RoH fans who think Samoa Joe is gods gift to wrestling.

 

 

PRAISE TEDDY HART!

[tpww7 0]

The RAW tag at ***? ARE YOU NUTS?

 

Definately ****, in my opinion. The GOOD talent hit every of the sigs, in a sensical manner, and even the lugs (Dudleys, Henry) worked very hard and looked like they belong.

 

The crowd was piping hot...the match told a great story...the work was very hard, the ending surprising...

 

I guess some people can't be satisifed.

 

Like, this is WWE...there's huge stars...they're "expected" to do so perfectly...so you lower your scales...

 

But you guys give like, an indy match or that AMW/XXX cage match (which was good) these "**** match! This is how WWE should do it!" ratings that they don't deserve...I don't get it.

 

Man, that tag was great.

 

Who the hell just said it was "not above **" ? Do you think before you type?

I'm sorry if those indy matches just happen to be better, I guess because they are indy I can't like them.

 

And I didnt lower my scales...it seemed like a Raw match with more blood. And the ending was surprising? How?

[Michrome 0]

I personally thought the Indy Cage match you speak of was way overrated, but if you think the Raw tag was ****, I have tons of tags to show you from this year alone that you'd be sure to give four hundred stars. I mean, it was really dramatically strong once it was Shawn vs. The World, but before that it was nothing special at all, and star ratings are based on how good the wrestling was. Good heat does not make a match great.

[tpww7 0]

Go watch a Hogan match you idiot DS.

 

And weren't you banned here before?

[Michrome 0]

Its probably the RoH fans who think Samoa Joe is gods gift to wrestling.

 

Hey, how about you try watching the product! What a concept that would be. There wasn't a single one on one match tonight that was better than any Samoa Joe title defense this year. And Joe hasn't had any title defenses over ***1/4, IMO.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

I personally thought the Indy Cage match you speak of was way overrated, but if you think the Raw tag was ****, I have tons of tags to show you from this year alone that you'd be sure to give four hundred stars. I mean, it was really dramatically strong once it was Shawn vs. The World, but before that it was nothing special at all, and star ratings are based on how good the wrestling was. Good heat does not make a match great.

HBK v. North America

 

 

No one outside of Canada and Hillbilly, Missouri was on the heel team when HBK was by himself.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

HBK hit a superkick? There was a lot more than that, my blind...blind-person.

 

Rob Van Dam hit all of his spots flawlessly, Mark Henry looked like he belonged, The Dudleys were used properly and generated heat, Christian played the sneaky little guy perfectly, Jericho's ringwork was great, Steiner was taken out quickly, as was Booker, Michaels bladed superbly, Orton was put over and didn't do anything wrong, the ending was surprising, the crowd was hot, Michaels bumped like a champion, new potential feuds were established, a touching momet occured at the end, Michaels amazing comeback was REALISTICLY ENDED, Austin's speech was not ridiculous, everyone sold, the match was fast-paced and told a great story.

 

That adds up to **** for me...

[Michrome 0]

It was a great moment, but you seem to have mutant-itus, where anything that was entertaining must be ****+ (RVD-Lynn, anyone?)

[Tawren 0]

HBK hit a superkick? There was a lot more than that, my blind...blind-person.

 

Rob Van Dam hit all of his spots flawlessly, Mark Henry looked like he belonged, The Dudleys were used properly and generated heat, Christian played the sneaky little guy perfectly, Jericho's ringwork was great, Steiner was taken out quickly, as was Booker, Michaels bladed superbly, Orton was put over and didn't do anything wrong, the ending was surprising, the crowd was hot, Michaels bumped like a champion, new potential feuds were established, a touching momet occured at the end, Michaels amazing comeback was REALISTICLY ENDED, Austin's speech was not ridiculous, everyone sold, the match was fast-paced and told a great story.

 

That adds up to **** for me...

Well, you are wrong. Most of your points are "they did better than they usually do" which is stupid. And how was the ending surprising? A run in? Not surprising.

[tpww7 0]

What new feuds came out of this? Orton not fucking up is good, but how does that add up to ****? Henry didnt look like he belonged. And still..HOW WAS THE END SURPRISING?

[Brocklock 0]

What new feuds came out of this? Orton not fucking up is good, but how does that add up to ****? Henry didnt look like he belonged. And still..HOW WAS THE END SURPRISING?

I think he was talking about the Smackdown tag and I think the new or newer feuds are Benoit/Brock, Cena/Show, and Brock/Holly.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

4-stars IS a little too high the match wasnt THAT Good wrestling wise until it was down to the above stated 4 guys.

 

But I gave it ***1/2 because I mark for Survivor Series matches.

[tpww7 0]

He was talking about the Raw tag.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Sorry, I do respect indy matches that deserve to be respected. And quite a few this year do exist.

 

But I think you're just being bitter at the generally shitty WWE product of late and didn't enjoy the match for all it was.

 

Just my opinion.

 

But if you're gonna bash me for liking it, I'll withold my comments about ROH, and their great non-wrestler spot monkeys, ex-ECW never-were's, overrated (although some are quite decent...) atches and ridiculous champion.

 

Heat doesn't make a match. Great workers, a great story, a believable atmosphere, good pacing, solid maneuevers, close falls, non-blown spots, violence when necessary, drama, and hard work do.

[tpww7 0]

Wait..Heat doesent make a match now? Didnt you just say it did 10 mins ago?

 

And bring the ROH hate on...

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

But if you're gonna bash me for liking it, I'll withold my comments about ROH, and their great non-wrestler spot monkeys, ex-ECW never-were's, overrated (although some are quite decent...) atches and ridiculous champion.

You are my new god. (throws out pictures of Jesus)

[Tawren 0]

But if you're gonna bash me for liking it, I'll withold my comments about ROH, and their great non-wrestler spot monkeys, ex-ECW never-were's, overrated (although some are quite decent...) atches and ridiculous champion.

You are my new god. (throws out pictures of Jesus)

Jesus was your god?