The OAO What's this move thread

[Guest JebusNassedar]

Shining Black (in TNA; I think it's a Shining Wizard variation, but I'm not sure),

 

Ah, somewhere I can help!

 

The Shining Black was, to my knowledge, made by Masahiro Chono. The only relation to the Wizard is the step off the knee.

 

The difference is that instead of a knee to the face, its a boot. Like a Shining Yakuza Kick.

[The Mandarin 0]

Is there any difference between the Brocklock and an Octopus Stretch?

[Sandman9000 0]

Shining Black (in TNA; I think it's a Shining Wizard variation, but I'm not sure),

 

Ah, somewhere I can help!

 

The Shining Black was, to my knowledge, made by Masahiro Chono. The only relation to the Wizard is the step off the knee.

 

The difference is that instead of a knee to the face, its a boot. Like a Shining Yakuza Kick.

Shining Black is supposed to be a step-up enzurgi, i.e. shining enzurgi. It's what the Hurricane uses.

 

I dunno if there's a legit name for the Shining Yakuza.

[Guest JebusNassedar]

No, the Shining Enzuigiri is quite literally called the Shining Enzuigiri.

 

The Shining Black IS the Shining Yakuza Kick. I had asked my big puro head friend, and according to him, Chono debuted the move while fighting the 'reinvented' Mutoh.

 

That, and the Fire Pro D Downloadable Move lists the Shining Black as being the Yakuza version.

[Dace59 0]

No, the Shining Enzuigiri is quite literally called the Shining Enzuigiri

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Or, if you're Darkness Dragon, it's the Shining Apprentice (horrible joke I know).

 

Yes the Shining Black is a Shining Yakuza Kick.

 

Is there any difference between the Brocklock and an Octopus Stretch?

 

Octopus Stretch = Abdominal Stretch with your leg over their head.

 

Brocklock = (first) bearhug then Goliath Bird Eater (Stretch Muffler in Boston Crab Possition.)

[LucharesuFan619 0]

I have that match of Fake You TV on my comp. Anyways, this is it, he has his head under your arm,and he hooks his arm around your neck, lifts you from the legs,and drops you on your head.

 

Sounds like a modified T-Bone Suplex...or an I picturing it wrong?

[LucharesuFan619 0]

A couple more questions, in addition to the clarification question I just asked marking out above regarding the Evans Driver.

 

I'm reading RandomFan's CZW TV report, and have a few questions:

 

What is...

 

- Teddy Hart's Lethal Injection (he said a Standing shooting star elbow off the top, but how can it be a standing version if it's off the top...unless he's just saying the obvious...so which one is it...a flying version of a version off the ring mat?)

- Teddy Hart's Hart Rate

- Petey Williams' Canadian Destroyer

 

Thanks.

[Guest Markingout]

A couple more questions, in addition to the clarification question I just asked marking out above regarding the Evans Driver.

 

I'm reading RandomFan's CZW TV report, and have a few questions:

 

What is...

 

- Teddy Hart's Lethal Injection (he said a Standing shooting star elbow off the top, but how can it be a standing version if it's off the top...unless he's just saying the obvious...so which one is it...a flying version of a version off the ring mat?)

- Teddy Hart's Hart Rate

- Petey Williams' Canadian Destroyer

 

Thanks.

Petey Williams' Canadian Destroyer is the jumping sunset flip piledriver. You might have seen Quiet Storm doing it quite a few times. Thats thats the one I remember off my head. I have got to watch the match again to check the Teddy Hart moves.

[Guest JacK]

Hey, does anyone know what Matrix's 'Touch of Reality' is?

And how about Seth Knight's 'End Game' and 'Twisted Knightmare' . . . I figure since both those guys are now main eventing my National Fed I should know what their finishers look like.

[Guest Markingout]

K, I watched the match again the Lethal Injection is the top rope shooting star press into an elbow. If you havent seen the move instead of going over with the extra rotation in the SSP, he turns to the side in the air. It looks stiff as hell.

 

Ok, now the Hart Rate is a backdrop turned into a sitout powerbomb. The only person I know that has taken the move is Jack Evans because he is only one that can backflip that high. It looks so awesome. Imagine a backdrop, and someone is countering to land on there feet, but you get under them and sitout powerbomb them, with out there feet hitting the mat. This is also all in one motion.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

Thanks. While you're at it, if possible, what's Sonjay's Bombay Lock that he used on the same Fake You! TV episode?

[Guest Markingout]

Ok, I will watch it again, and I will edit it in? BTW, did you get the answer to some of those Xavier moves you asked for(or I think it was you) I have some of his moves if you want them.

[PsychoDriver 0]

Hey, does anyone know what Matrix's 'Touch of Reality' is?

That is the same as Steve Corino's Old School Explusion. A Twist of Fate Neckbreaker type move.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Ok, I saw this move on Clickwrestle.com somewhere.

 

Imagine two guys standing face-to-face. One brings his left arm up and put it around the other guy's neck, almost like a Rock Bottom, but not quite. He then grabs buddy's left hand with his right, pushes him down towards the mat, but then whips him back hard and takes a back bump, dropping the other guy right on his face.

 

Anyone know what it's called/who does it/what I'm talking about?

[Guest Markingout]

I belive that would be an STO. Or inverted STO. Also Lucharesu, what part of the match is the Bombay Lock, I was skipping threw the match, and I couldn't find it

[The Metal Maniac 0]

It's not an STO. If it was, I wouldn't need to ask. It's like an STO, except the two guys really aren't that close to each other when he does the move. The guy taking is is almost bent over buddy's knee backwards before he does it.

 

I guess it's a CZW guy that does it, if that helps any...or at least he WAS a CZW guy...I dunno if he still is.

 

Hey, if anyone here goes to Clickwrestle.com, go watch the Indystructable video (which is bomb-fucking-ass). It's the move done at about the minute mark, off the crazy CZW style chair setup.

 

Then you see it again at about the 2-minute mark, right after that crazy Canadian dude's Standing Corkscrew SSP.

 

Then you see it again, about 5:15 in.

 

I can't even tell who's doing it, because you never really see buddy's face, and I don't watch enough indies to be sure.

 

And while I'm on it...what is the name for the move where you set the guy up for a half-nelson suplex, lift him straight up, then force him down headfirst in mid-air?

[thecitythesky 0]

that would be Alex Shelley's Shellshock... done there to Jimmy Jacobs at during the third of their 3 matches that night (last man standing stips) for IWA-MS on 12.19.03.. a show you should buy, for those as well as a decent B-Boy/Rotten match and an excellent Hero/Styles match.

 

EDIT: actually... all three times the move is in that video it's being done to Jimmy Jacobs... although i can't tell when the other two happened. (actually... one of them was at an IWA show in highland (judging by the basketball hoop) and they've only had one match there (i want to say October... unless it was from the four way in November (maybe?))... either way, SMV has both)

[Dace59 0]

Metal Manic, it's an Attacker Inverted Last Rites/Roll The Side/Inverted Swinged Neckbreaker.

 

Or: Inverted Side Headlock to Reverse STO.

 

Last Rites: Inverted Face Lock, opp infront of you, swing over into Diamond Cutter, opp behind you. As you know.

 

Now twist the attacker 180.

 

Opp in Inverted Side Headlock (so they're BEHIND YOU) swing over, end in Reverse STO/Downward Spiral. Notice this posistion, the attacker is rotated through 180 from the landing of a Diamond Cutter.

 

Proof of this: Set someone up for a neckbreaker, you're back to back. Now, turn it around so you face the same way as them. What do you have set up? Side Russian Leg Sweep.

 

Z Barr used to do it back in CZW.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

The move being described is basically a 90 Degree Corkscrew Pivot Inverted Russian Leg Sweep.

 

Markingout, the Bombay Lock is done within the first like 3 minutes of the match, by Sonjay onto Joker. It's after Sonjay hits a rana on Joker and before Joker starts unloading a bunch of his moves on Sonjay. Thanks again for doing this for me.

[thecitythesky 0]

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Dace...

 

if you're refering to Metal Maniac's question about the Shellshock, you couldn't be more off base.

 

there is no headlock, inverted or otherwise in the move. essentially it's just a modified reverse STO/Flatliner. Shelley gets his opponent in position for a Flatliner (albeit w/ his left arm instead of right (as most people do)) so now they are chest to chest. he then bends his opponent over backwards over his knee (at this point i can see you thinking that he has them in an inverted headlock... but he doesn't.)

 

he then takes a back bump... whipping his opponent around in a sort of higher impact Flatliner.

 

(if you watch the video Metal Maniac referenced at click wrestle... there's a really good shot of him doing the whole move at about 5:15)

 

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[Dace59 0]

I've seen the video, it looks just like Z Barr's Fluff to me.

 

He has his arm around the guy's neck while he's face up. If both where full standing it that position, it would be an inverted headlock.

 

Meh, just sits better with me.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

Ya, the Shellshock and the Fluff are pretty much the same thing. There's really no difference to them. Dace is right, I think.

[PsychoDriver 0]

What are Spanky's "Dr. Smooth's Secret Recipe" and "Left Turn At Albuquerque"?

 

I think I know... but I'm not quite sure.

[Dace59 0]

This is one of the points where it comes down to how technical and detailed a picture of want of the move.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

SPANKY:

 

Finishers:

 

- Sliced Bread #2 (Running Stunner [3/4 Bulldog Facelock] into Super [top buckle] Backflip into Falling Inverted DDT )

 

Other moves:

 

Climbing Enziguri Kick, Corner Headscissors Takeover, Doctor Teeth (Swinging Neckbreaker into Face Crusher [OO calles it a Jawbreaker] onto his knee) (in WWE), Dropkick, Dr. Smoothe's Secret Recipe (Corner Running Tiger Mask-style Backflip Attack), Elbow Smash, Electric Mayhem (Springboard Knee Smash), Enziguri Kick, Huracanrana, Jumping Side Salto Kick (basically a Leaping Heelkick), Left Turn At Albuquerque (Flying Corkscrew [Horizontally-Spinning] Frog Splash), Mo Mo Latch (Cross-Legged Huracanrana-type thingy), ^Slingshot Fishmeran's Rollup^ (used in his Japan matches fairly regularly), Slingshot Moonsault Press, Spinning Sitout Front Suplex (ending w/ Sitout Face Slam), Springboard Dropkick, Springboard Swinging DDT, Topè Con Hilo, Tornado Pedigree off of middle buckle (?), Twisting Mare into Knee Smash, Whirling Twirltizer (Somersault Plancha Suicida)

[PsychoDriver 0]

SPANKY:

 

Finishers:

Thanks,

 

Happen to have a link to the site that came from?

[LucharesuFan619 0]

It's my own lists that I keep. I have move lists for every major promotion across the globe for virtually every major wrestler there is. All on the safety of my own computer. Well, my CZW move list is on CZDub.com and my NWA Wildside one is on http://members.aol.com/piratez4v3go2/nwawsmoves.htm, but besides that all the lists are on my own comp. So if you have any other move questions ask, and I can prolly just cut and paste the list from my comp.

[Dace59 0]

Hey, would you like some hosting for all those lists man?

[LucharesuFan619 0]

Hey, would you like some hosting for all those lists man?

Ya, absolutely. They're frontpage documents, if that's important. I could send em to you or whatever if you're interested in hosting em. PM me.

[Guest Markingout]

K, I found it. Its his headscissors into a Octopus hold/wristlock. Dragon Kid does it.