Goldust getting let go

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Goldust will be getting dropped by the WWF in about mid-January. So do you want to see him in TNA? While he has some trouble without the Goldust gimmick I think TNA can get him over if they just let him act outlandish on his own.

 

I think if booked correctly he could get as over as Raven and show the WWF doesn't know how to get their talent over.

[Guest Choken One]

WCW tried to shove him down our throats and we all remember those CLASSIC Jarrett/Dustin matches don't we?

 

It failed...Save for the Babyface "The Natural" from 1991-1994...Rhodes hasn't been worth shit without the Goldust gimmick.

 

Yes, Dustin will be over for a while.

 

But TNA really needs to stop buying up WWE rejects.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

But he's come a long way with his ringwork and he was one of the most popular WWF stars over the last 2 yrs. This isn't like some of the guys who were just kind of there, he was popular enough to hold a major title.

[Guest Choken One]

So was Jeff Jarrett...you don't see people rushing to watch TNA because of him...

[Fökai 0]

I think if booked correctly he could get as over as Raven and show the WWF doesn't know how to get their talent over.

Doesn't mean jack-squat anyway.

 

For example, just because XPW got Shane Douglas over when WWE or WCW didn't, doesn't make them a better promotion because of it.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Yeah but he was over in the WWF and they didn't use him. At one point he was probably in the top 5 of faces in the company.

[1234-5678 0]

Just out of curiousity, was there ever a Dusty vs. Dustin matchup?

It might suck, but it would be worth it for historical value.

[eirejmcmahon 0]

I'd bring him in but keep him a mile away from his worthless father - nothing turns me off quicker than the sight of that fat old shit lumbering around the ring.

[Guest TDinDC1112]

he was one of the most popular WWF stars over the last 2 yrs.

Goldust was. They can't use Goldust. All TNA will have is Dustin Rhodes.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

I'd bring him in but keep him a mile away from his worthless father - nothing turns me off quicker than the sight of that fat old shit lumbering around the ring.

God no, In fact, they need to get Flair, and re-enact their WCW feud, and Kiss My Ass Match of Jarrett and Flair vs Dustin and Dusty.

 

Furthermore, If Jarrett brings his American Dweem outfit out of mothballs, itll be a small step in my rescinding my Jarrett Hate

[Guest MikeSC]

Goldust will be getting dropped by the WWF in about mid-January. So do you want to see him in TNA? While he has some trouble without the Goldust gimmick I think TNA can get him over if they just let him act outlandish on his own.

 

I think if booked correctly he could get as over as Raven and show the WWF doesn't know how to get their talent over.

WHAT?

 

WWE is dumping Goldust?

 

How bloody idiotic can they be?

 

Well, WITHOUT the Goldust gimmick, Dustin has NEVER shown the ability to draw heat.

 

Heck, they can bring back the Seven gimmick from WCW that was not used.

-=Mike

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Who owns the rights to that anyway?

 

I remember that night on Nitro when he debuted as Seven, and then proceeded to shit all over the gimmick. Man that was great. Pity he couldnt draw flies afterwards

[bob_barron 0]

If Dustin is in TNA I will buy or get a copy of every show he's on.

 

Bring him in

[Guest MikeSC]

If Dustin is in TNA I will buy or get a copy of every show he's on.

 

Bring him in

I wouldn't.

 

Goldust was really good in WWF/E.

 

As Dustin Rhodes, it just never really worked.

-=Mike

[bob_barron 0]

I've always been a huge Dustin Rhodes mark- and he's a good worker.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I think they won't use him as just Dustin. He won't be Goldust but he'll still have a similar character.

 

And remember his inring work has come a long way since the last time he had to play just Dustin.

[Zack Malibu 0]

If they ran with the Seven gimmick, since there'll be no one to cry foul and say it's something it isn't (such as how Turner execs felt it was a pedophile gimmick), it could get over big.

 

As ordinary Dustin Rhodes, the Texas badboy, he might get a welcoming pop, but fans will then be apathetic towards him. He'd wind up with "X-Pac heat".

 

Just pray they don't go with Russo's other idea. The "Platinum" gimmick that he proposed in WCW which was Dustin in a silver get up, quoting music rather than movies. That would serve no purpose other than to make TNA seem second rate.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

If they worked a Dusty vs. Dustin fued, it would work.

[Zack Malibu 0]

If they worked a Dusty vs. Dustin fued, it would work.

It could, but you have to figure Dustin would get a largely positive response coming to TNA. Look at D-Lo when he came in. He had that entire building chanting his name, the equivalent of a Hogan chant.

 

Using the "Son in the father's shadow" gimmick that had long been rumored by the mark mags could work since Dusty is so over, but you'd have to realize the matches would be shit, plus if Dustin did get a good response coming in, you'd kill his heat by turning him so quickly.

 

One thing I would like to see, and I'm probably the only one, would be for America's Most Wanted to turn heel by beating down Dusty (he's their occasional backup/advisor/partner) and have Dustin make the save. Have the Rhodes' gun for the tag straps, while going back to their past as a broken family (Dusty and Dustin didn't talk for years at one point, mostly due to Terri I believe). Let them get a win together, as it'd make for a good inspirational angle and feel-good moment.

[2GOLD 0]

What the hell was the Seven gimmick again?

I remember it lasted twenty seconds but I don't remember what it was.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I think they should try to get him when he becomes available.

 

The one thing TNA always needs is more heavyweights who can work.

 

They should make his storyline about how he has only made a name for himself playing a character and not his own name.

[Guest Dids]

If it means that he wrestlers instead of his father- that's fine by me. Bring him in. TNA got D-Lo way more over than anybody would have thought.

[ryankeast 0]

What was the Seven gimmick??? When did it happen and has anyone got a pic of it????

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

If you can find a copy of it, watch Starrcade 1999. It neatly summarises the gimmick.

 

While I may be off track, it might have been alluding to pedophilia, as you'd see kids in their bedrooms, and then outside, this "ghostly" figure (which was an allusion to the Undertaker, since he'd left for knee surgery at the time) would be staring at them. This went on for a few weeks, and sometimes, a unicorn (yep, the horse thingy) would join him. Anyway, one week, on Nitro, all the lights went out, and this guy (again, dressed like the undertaker) "floated" (i shit you not) to the ring, said something in a weird voice, and then Dustin's voice goes "Would you look at the crap they have me in", and cuts a anti-Russo promo (the huge logic gap being that the original skits had started pre-Russo), then ripped off the UT coat, and goes (again, I shit you not) "You will never......forget the name....of....Dustin Rhodes"

 

Which was pretty much the death of his career in WCW right there, as Jarrett squashed him in the ensuing feud, people were never gonna buy him as plain old Dustin Rhodes

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

 

 

This is he, sorry about the double postage. From DDT Digest, Nitro, November 8, 1999

 

 

Dustin Yoda's music comes on

It's the DustinTaker!

Dustintaker "floats" to the ring.

Hands of Fate! AHHHHH!!!

You can hear people laughing in the background.

As Jay said in Mallrats, "Fly, fatass, fly!"

Dustintaker sounds like a hick.

He tells everyone to take a good look at the crap he's in.

 

He left the WWF because of gimmicks like this.

Dustin: "I was Golddust, and Golddust was crap."

Dustin says he just wanted to be him, but the Powers That Be said that Dustin sucks, and Dustin was boring.

Dustin: "They've dressed me up like Uncle Fester to play trick-or-treat all year long."

 

Dustin says that his new name is Seven.

Dustin tells the Powers where they can stick Golddust, the outfit, and they can kiss his ass.

Dustin says that the Powers fired Dusty last week.

Dustin says that the Powers disrespected his father, the Rhodes name, and him.

Dustin says that he's going to make their lives, WCW's lives, and TNT's lives miserable.

Dustin: "Tonight, and forever more, you will never forget the name of......Dustin Rhodes."

[Zack Malibu 0]

If you can find a copy of it, watch Starrcade 1999. It neatly summarises the gimmick.

 

While I may be off track, it might have been alluding to pedophilia, as you'd see kids in their bedrooms, and then outside, this "ghostly" figure (which was an allusion to the Undertaker, since he'd left for knee surgery at the time) would be staring at them. This went on for a few weeks, and sometimes, a unicorn (yep, the horse thingy) would join him. Anyway, one week, on Nitro, all the lights went out, and this guy (again, dressed like the undertaker) "floated" (i shit you not) to the ring, said something in a weird voice, and then Dustin's voice goes "Would you look at the crap they have me in", and cuts a anti-Russo promo (the huge logic gap being that the original skits had started pre-Russo), then ripped off the UT coat, and goes (again, I shit you not) "You will never......forget the name....of....Dustin Rhodes"

 

Which was pretty much the death of his career in WCW right there, as Jarrett squashed him in the ensuing feud, people were never gonna buy him as plain old Dustin Rhodes

Uh, hate to tell you, but he didn't feud with Jarrett until over a year later. Dustin was brawling with Terry Funk shortly after the arrival, and Jarrett was feuding with Sid.

 

And considering the angle was Dusty/Dustin vs. Jarrett and Flair, I don't think anyone involved was squashed.

[ryankeast 0]

[alluding to pedophilia]

 

How??? I take it these were segments b4 he was to debut???

 

BTW that sounds awful

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

If you can find a copy of it, watch Starrcade 1999. It neatly summarises the gimmick.

 

While I may be off track, it might have been alluding to pedophilia, as you'd see kids in their bedrooms, and then outside, this "ghostly" figure (which was an allusion to the Undertaker, since he'd left for knee surgery at the time) would be staring at them. This went on for a few weeks, and sometimes, a unicorn (yep, the horse thingy) would join him. Anyway, one week, on Nitro, all the lights went out, and this guy (again, dressed like the undertaker) "floated" (i shit you not) to the ring, said something in a weird voice, and then Dustin's voice goes "Would you look at the crap they have me in", and cuts a anti-Russo promo (the huge logic gap being that the original skits had started pre-Russo), then ripped off the UT coat, and goes (again, I shit you not) "You will never......forget the name....of....Dustin Rhodes"

 

Which was pretty much the death of his career in WCW right there, as Jarrett squashed him in the ensuing feud, people were never gonna buy him as plain old Dustin Rhodes

Uh, hate to tell you, but he didn't feud with Jarrett until over a year later. Dustin was brawling with Terry Funk shortly after the arrival, and Jarrett was feuding with Sid.

 

And considering the angle was Dusty/Dustin vs. Jarrett and Flair, I don't think anyone involved was squashed.

Um, youre sorta misreading me...but its my bad. Jarrett half feuded with Rhodes in Nov-Dec 1999, leading to a match a Starrcade. (The problem was that Jarrett was involved in a few storylines at the time,and thus negated the impact of it). Post Starrcade (where Jarrett pretty much squashed Rhodes), he disapearred for a few months, came back, and feuded with Funk. After that, he disapearred again (this is post Spring Stampede 2000), and din't resurface until early 2001, when he feuded with Flair's Magnificent Seven, in particular, first Rick Steiner, over the US Title, and then Jarrett.

 

Sorry about not putting dates tomy previous posts, as that would have made things a lot clearer

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

[alluding to pedophilia]

 

How??? I take it these were segments b4 he was to debut???

 

BTW that sounds awful

Again, I barely remember that period of Nitro, and I don't keeps tapes of Nitro episodes, but one of the reasons Standards and Practices came down on it was they thought the whole thing was some sort of pedophilic thing. Depends what you consider a 35 year old man in ghost-face makeup gawping at sleeping kids to be a reference to.

 

As for sounding awful, apparantly not, a lot of people (before Russo, who shitcanned the gimmick almost immediately, and wrote the segment i posted) thought it had huge potential as, again, and Undertaker Rip-Off Gimmick

[ryankeast 0]

I mean the segment you posted sounded awful.