spiny norman 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2003 The greatest Horror movie ever is: HALLOWEEN!!!! It had 16 votes to Texas Chainsaw Massacre's 12. Yay, and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2003 wee and stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2003 Just in time for Thanksgiving! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2003 The fact that this won and classics like Evil Dead and Night Of The Living Dead, and The Thing and The Shining, didn't sickens me. Then again, the only slasher I can actually stand is Kolobos, so don't mind me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted November 24, 2003 The fact that this won and classics like Evil Dead and Night Of The Living Dead, and The Thing and The Shining, didn't sickens me. Then again, the only slasher I can actually stand is Kolobos, so don't mind me. The Shining lost because anyone who has ever read the actual book tends to hate the movie. Unless we're talking the recent remake but even then, whatshisface lacks Nicholson's charm. All the other films you listed woulda been fine as winners but I'd say overall quality wise, Halloween probably outdues them, then again I think the Texas Chainsaw Massacre outdues it and zombie films tend to bore me, so whatever, everyones bitter about it and or just doesn't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 What? Nobody who's read the book hates the movie (yes, some do, but I'm making a point here), in fact that's the one case where I've ever seen a substantial amount of people consider the movie better than the book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 All the other films you listed woulda been fine as winners but I'd say overall quality wise, Halloween probably outdues them I agree. I love the ending where the kids all die and the stuff with the masks and Stonehenge. Wait, we are talking about Halloween 3, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 What? Nobody who's read the book hates the movie (yes, some do, but I'm making a point here), in fact that's the one case where I've ever seen a substantial amount of people consider the movie better than the book. I liked the movie better because of Nicholson, but we're in the minority. Even King hates it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 That's interesting. I have two King books on my shelf, one of them being Danse Macabre. It seemed like he was speaking highly of it there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted November 24, 2003 King hates The Shining with Nicholson, thats why he remade it. It's drastically different from the book and he really wasn't pleased. I personally think it's fine but I understand his point on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 I can understand his point, and he has the right to remake it, but that doesn't (and SHOULDN'T) take away from the fact that movie is remarkable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2003 King hates the Kubrick movie/vision mainly because King says the overlook hotel is supposed to be the main character, not Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted November 24, 2003 I'm reading The Shining right now. In the intro king says this book is important to him because it was th first in which he gave the "Jack" character more depth. Maybe he didn't like Kubrick's version because Jack has little dimensionality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 25, 2003 I honestly think that the REAL reason why King hates the movie is because the Kubrick masterpiece of a film overshadows the story. The film is THAT visually stunning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2003 Here's what King had to say about it. "I'd admired Kubrick for a long time and had great expectations for the project, but I was deeply disappointed in the end result. Parts of the film are chilling, charged with a relentlessly claustrophobic terror, but others fall flat." "Kubrick just couldn't grasp the sheer inhuman evil of the Overlook Hotel. So he looked, instead, for evil in the character and made the film into domestic tragedy with only vaguely supernatural overtones. That was the basic flaw: because he couldn't believe, he couldn't make the film believable to others. The second problem was in characterization and casting. Jack Nicholson, though a fine actor, was all wrong for the part. His last big role had been in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and between that and his manic grin, the audience automatically identified him as a loony from the first scene. But the book is about Jack Torrance's gradual descent into madness through the malign influence of the Overlook, which is like a huge storage battery charged with an evil powerful enough to corrupt all those who come in contact with it. If the guy is nuts to begin with, then the entire tragedy of his downfall is wasted. For that reason, the film has no centre and no heart, despite its brilliantly unnerving camera angles and dazzling use of the Steadicam. What's basically wrong with Kubrick's version of The Shining is that it's a film by a man who thinks too much and feels too little; and that's why, for all its virtuso effects, it never gets you by the throat and hangs on the way real horror should." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2003 Sour grapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
