Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 in a fight between these competitors who do you believe would win? T-101 model Terminator(Arnold's model) Predator Pack of 5-7 Aliens In the end I believe the Terminator would win. I mean he could survive good lengths of cold thus making itself cold and rendering the Predator unable to find him. The Aliens could present a problem but I would think the Terminator would be able to see them before they sprung on him via his tracking sensors. Either way it would be damn fun to watch
Nighthawk Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Robocop would beat them all, because he's got heart. Of those, I'd pick the Terminator as well. You're right, it could hide in plain sight from the Predator, and that's why.
justsoyouknow Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 But the predator could make itself invisible, therefore unable to be tracked by the Terminator, as well as the aliens. So there ya go. Predator wins it.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Terminator has motion and thermal seeking in its vision. It could pick up the Predator no problem
Guest wildpegasus Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 in a fight between these competitors who do you believe would win? T-101 model Terminator(Arnold's model) Predator Pack of 5-7 Aliens In the end I believe the Terminator would win. I mean he could survive good lengths of cold thus making itself cold and rendering the Predator unable to find him. The Aliens could present a problem but I would think the Terminator would be able to see them before they sprung on him via his tracking sensors. Either way it would be damn fun to watch Astroboy or Atlas would destroy those wimps faster than a Benoit chop.
Nighthawk Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Yeah, Godzilla, Superman and the Lord Jesus Christ could beat them all too, but let's try to work within his parameters.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Jesus couldn't even beat the Romans, what makes you think his skinny hippy ass would last a second in this fight?
Nighthawk Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 He could say "My dad can beat up your dad."
Slayer Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 He could say "My dad can beat up your dad." "Your dad doesn't even exist!"
justsoyouknow Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Jesus was non-violent. He'd just martyr himself and act all holier-than-thou. Terminator would get his ass handed to him by a Predator, but he might be able to pull out a victory in the end.
Nighthawk Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Let's also remember that Predators stupidly want to go hand to hand at the end.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Jesus was non-violent. He'd just martyr himself and act all holier-than-thou. "I'll teach you Terminator! *allows himself to be nailed to a cross* Now in 3 days I'll die for your sins and...then...um...aww shit"
Corey_Lazarus Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 A Predator would own all of those Mighty Duck Fucks. Machines give off heat due to the movement of the insides and the exterior (and a T-101 has living flesh over a metal endoskeleton) coating, so there goes the whole "the Predator couldn't see him with thermal" argument. Another reason the Predator could still spot the Terminator is because, as seen in Predator 2, they can see with more than thermal. How else could they find the Aliens, which have been proven to not show up on thermal (thanks to the comment "maybe they don't show up on infrared at all," said by Dietrich in Aliens moments before biting the dust)? The Aliens, while great in packs, cannot take down a Predator at a distance. The Predators also hunt the Aliens as a ritualistic form of passage into adulthood. If kiddy Predators can hunt and kill Aliens all over the universe, why couldn't one fully grown one take out 5-7 of them, especially with the shoulder cannon, spear, claw, and throwing disc? Predators Uber Alles.
justsoyouknow Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Corey, you scare me with the amount of thought that you put into this. But what happens if the T-101 is stripped down to the bare metal?
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Corey needs to write the Predator vs. Aliens movie and Terminator runs on a cold fusion(I know it really doesn't exist but it does in movies) energy cell. Bare Metal I would think he doesn't give off heat. Of course I never watched Predator 2 all the way through because I didn't like Predator in the Big City idea
Corey_Lazarus Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Actually, I barely put any thought into this. I grew up on the three movies, and own every issue of the first series of Aliens comic books (which are, in my eyes, the greatest graphic books ever published), as well as many issues of several of the Aliens vs. Predator series, so it's just common knowledge to me. True, while the Skynet machines DO run off cold fusion cells, the overall heat generated by the mere energy running through the machine would make it more than able to be seen by the Predator. Not to mention the fact that the Predator can see more than thermal (Plunderin, rent Predator 2 just to see this, as the overall idea of Predator in the Asphalt Jungle is rather good and with a decent enough execution), and AH-NULD finally gets killed by that "ugly motherfucker." And no, I shouldn't write the Aliens vs. Predator movie. I wouldn't be able to handle the big conglomerate bullshit about having to appeal to the modern day youth, which has been found to both date a movie in the years to come AND lower possible profits (notice how the highest grossing movies of the past few years have not had characters that do extreme sports and listen to rap, but are rather just common every day folk?). If I were to do anything involving AvP, I'd make a mini-series (preferably 10 hours long, with 10 one hour episodes) based off of the HUUUGE story arc of the Aliens vs. Predator: Duel, Aliens: Berserker, and Aliens vs. Predator: War series. EDIT: Fuck, now I have a huge urge to watch every movie in each series (and I almost rented Terminator 3 and the PS2 AvP strategy game today, but I forgot my wallet), and read the three books I mentioned. Too bad I got all of those back when I had no fucking idea how to treat non-Marvel comics, and they're all over the place...
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 28, 2003 Report Posted November 28, 2003 Arnold actually makes an appearance in the 2nd film or they just say he was killed? I'll just catch it the next time they play it on WB or AMC
Corey_Lazarus Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 Actually, I was referring to if a Predator were to destroy a T-101. In the Predator's universe, Dutch Schaeffer (Arnold's character from the original film) goes on to help a Russian special forces agent (Lisa Kurovich, maybe; something along those lines; she was the chick in the AvP arcade side-scroller beat 'em up) investigate a Predator sighting somewhere, and they both get entered into an all-out war between the Aliens and the Predators (which is the storyline of the AvP arcade game, and doesn't make sense with the rest of the AvP collective storylines).
razazteca Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 Borg Agent Smith > All Resistence if Futile....be prepared to be assimilated.
Corey_Lazarus Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 All three series this thread is about > ANYTHING Matrix Fuck the Wachowski's.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 Thing is, the Terminator, Alien, and Predator universes could all intertwine (we know both the Aliens and Predator ones do) but the Matrix universe couldn't intertwine with all 3 of these so Smith is a non-factor. I mean you would have to believe that the machines in the Matrix universe could take over and pod the Aliens and Predators (it could easily make Terminators and have them join the Matrix) and I don't see that happening...a planet full of Predators would fucking rock what controls the Matrix.
razazteca Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 What if a Borg Cube mothership landed on the Matrix planet and got infected by the Agent Smith virus? What if Agent Smith could leave the matrix and live within the Borg Cube. Think of all the trouble that can happen in a movie universe far far away.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 I haven't seen Revelations but to my knowledge Smith can really only exist inside the Matrix because he can't assimilate outside of it. He also wouldn't have the abilities he does outside of the Matrix since he's basically comp script
razazteca Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 The Borg are more or less machine drones. So what if one of the Borg entered the Matrix in search of a new energy source and what if Agent Smith "gave them the finger" merging trick?
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 I don't think so, because once again Agent Smith is able to take advantage of the fact that he can rewrite the computer script of the Matrix. I don't see him able to transfer that ability to a real life situation.
Nighthawk Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 What if a planet full of Predators is a Matrix, and then you get a Smith Predator.
Corey_Lazarus Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 Hey, guys, get the fuck back on track. FUCK THE WACHOWSKI'S.
Guest El Satanico Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 So the answer to this thread is...we need a The Matrix meets The Borg movie
Ravenbomb Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 yeah, and what if the prisoner guy and gangster guys from Versus showed up? *brain explodes from all the crossovers and whatifs* btw, nobody better bring up a Scanners crossover cause of the brain explosion
Guest FrigidSoul Posted November 29, 2003 Report Posted November 29, 2003 damnit to hell with the Matrix. Its been proven that its universe would not be able to coincide with the universes of the other 3
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