Submissions used in MMA

[Guest wildpegasus]

Questions for MMA fans.

 

Which submissions are the most commonly used in MMA?

 

I've seen the cross armbreaker, the rear naked choke and the triangle choke used a lot but what other submissions are popular after you get away from the main ones?

 

What submissions are your favourites?

 

Which submissions are banned?

 

Thanks for any responses.

[Guest NCJ]

Guiltine Choke, Knee Bar, Triangle arm bar

[razazteca 0]

My favorite would be the Mark Coleman neck crank or any triangle choke or armbar from the guard with the opponet standing up trapped.

 

Everybody goes for the keylock.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Alexander Otsuka's double armbar!!!!

 

No submissions are banned unless they are small joint manipulation (bending fingers).

 

Side Choke is a nifty move. Because it doesn't look like much, and it's hard to get on, but when it is - it's sweet. The Gi Choke is a tricky lil sum bitch.

 

Triangle Choke is my personal favourite, though. It's just a brilliant move. Daiju Takase's triangle on Anderson Silva was probably the best one I've seen, but Noguiera's Triangle from the oma platta to Enson Inoue is a thing of beauty. The set up is almost as good as hooking it on - it's like an exact science.

 

Carlos Newton tapped Pat Militich with a straight-up headlock/choke.

 

Flying Armbars and Triangles are rare.

 

Chin-to-the-eye has had some success.

[razazteca 0]

I think somebody used a side mounted headlock for a win once, I'm not sure but I think it happened in Pride 15.

 

And the choke move by Tre (the guy with one man boob) Tullyman ruled in his early UFC match that had Ken Shamrock doing commentary.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Wallid Ishmail used a side choke to render Shungo Oyama unconscious.

[Lei Tong 0]

Some not mentioned:

 

- Kimura

- Straight footlock

- Ankle lock

- Heel hook

- Various shoulder cranks

 

Some of the rarer moves include:

- flying varations of moves

- North/South choke

- Bicep & calf slicers

 

And then there are some I've seen only once:

- Tom Erikson's crossface on Willie Peeters

- Tom Erikson's two handed strangle on Matt Skelton

- Tito Ortiz' side neck crank vs. Yuki Kondo

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Frank Mirs Elbow twister thingie on Petey Williams.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Nothing beats Tank Abbott's "Kneel on the guy's skull then pull up on the cage for leverage".

 

That was just DICKISH.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I beg to differ.

 

Ryan Gracies "break-Shungo-Oyamas-arm-and-kick-him-in-the-face-when-letting-go-then-gloat" is the dickiest.

 

[The Metal Maniac 0]

You make a strong case...

 

But at least that was using somewhat legit holds...

 

Tank just KNEELED ON THE GUY'S SKULL. Gold, I say.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Tank's dickery in the early UFC's was fun... My personal favourite was trying to throw a guy over the cage wall.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

I've often wondered what they would've done if he had succeded...are there rules to cover the eventuality of someone being thrown out of the cage?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

They restart it in the ring - it happened at UFC III with Yarborough and Hackney (the door opened and they fell out).

[razazteca 0]

I remember Ryan or Renzo walking on his opponet in a match.

 

Now that is Dickish.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

They restart it in the ring - it happened at UFC III with Yarborough and Hackney (the door opened and they fell out).

 

Ah, that's no fun; They should make it "Taps-Count-Anywhere" if that happens.

[Lei Tong 0]

Renzo stepped on the head of judoka Ben Spijkers after their WCC match.

 

However, Spijkers had been calling and harassing Renzo in the days leading up to the fight, and Renzo later apologized for his actions.

 

 

And for pure dickery...

 

http://www.yamatodamashiiichizoku.com/stre...d=norivskatsuta

 

Those actions caused Yamamoto to be suspended for 6 months, caused a near team vs. team brawl between Purebred and Kz' Factory, and got him in deepshit with his brother-in-law/trainer, Enson Inoue.

[razazteca 0]

So what happen?

[Lei Tong 0]

That's what video link was for...

 

As seen in the picture below, Yamamoto absolutely obliterated Tetsuo Katsuta during the fight (fracturing bones in his face in the process), prompting a ref stoppage as he pounded away from the mount. However, even as the bell rang and the referee tried to intervene, Yamamoto continued to pound away (and this a guy who's Ground & Pound rivals Fedor's P4P), laughing and making faces as Katsuta tried to slip out under the ropes. Then, the subsequent brawl & other postfight fallout.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Your mentioning of Enson reminded me of a clip PRIDE played before one of his fights (vs. Kerr in the 2000 GP, I believe) that showed him GnP'ing someone after the ref had stopped the fight until he had to be restrained.

 

It's interesting that Enson would be so angry at his brother in law after having done something very similar in the past.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

That was against Igor Vovchanchyn at PRIDE 10 - Enson has commented about "Ring Enson" and "Outside the Ring Enson" - where Ring Enson would rather Die than tap, and OTR Enson sees that fight w/ vovchanchyn and shudders and thinks that ring enson is stupid.

 

Ah fuck it, I'll just post the interview - it's really good, he talks about pro wrestling, tats, fighting and fans....

 

(via. Ironlife Forums.)

 

Enson Inoue is a legend in Hawaii and Japan. He is respected all over the world as one of the toughest fighters in MMA. MMAWeekly's Mick Hammond went one on one with the one and only Enson Inoue for our Interview of the Week.

 

MICK: First off, your tattoo collection has grown quite a bit since most fans saw you in your last appearance with Pride. You state your tattoos have deep meanings to you. Is the pain and accomplishment of getting a tattoo comparable to fighting to you?

 

ENSON: Well, every single one of my tattoos has a deep meaning to me. Each and every one signifies part of my beliefs, my family and my life. The day I die, I will die proud with these tattoos inked in my skin. In a way, I will take all the important things in my life with me to my grave. Fighting is a whole different thing. I fight to better myself as a man. I sometimes forget about winning or losing because I'm so focused on attacking and facing my weaknesses that I can strengthen through my fights.

 

MICK: Your website (http://www.yamatodamashiiichizoku.com) is very fan-friendly and it affords people the opportunity to speak with you via your message board and chat. You obviously take a lot of time out of your schedule to try to connect with your fans, how important is this to you?

 

ENSON: Very important. What most fighters don't realize is that the fans are what makes us fighters. If there were no fans, then there would be no promotions. If there were no promotions then there would be no fights, and without any fights, fighters would have no work. Also, something that would take 10 minutes and a couple dollars, like sending out an autographed picture, could give a fan happiness that money can't buy. I can't pass up an opportunity like that. It's like giving a homeless child 20 bucks. 20 bucks ain't shit to me, but to a homeless child in Thailand, it would mean 2-3 weeks of food. How can you turn your back on something like that? I sure can't.

 

MICK: You recently held a competition on your site that allowed a fan who put together a highlight reel of you to come to Japan and spend time with you. Again your connection to your fans is exceptional, how did that come about and why did you choose to do such a thing?

 

ENSON: Yeah, he's right here as we speak. He's been here for about 2 weeks now and he's living it up in Japan. I did that contest because it was my way of giving back to my fans. Again, going back to the previous question, paying for a full expense paid trip for the winner, Brent, is nothing compared to the experience and happiness he is getting from this trip. To see him smile and thank me makes me happy to know that I'm doing something good for someone.

 

MICK: You obviously have great love for your family, your fans, your dog and fighting. Tell us how those things influence and impact your life.

 

ENSON: No matter what it is: family, fans, friends, sponsors, or students, I connect from the heart. Without them I'm just as well as dead. They have a major impact on my life just being around me everyday.

 

MICK: This past year, you signed a deal with NJPW and made your first appearance in February. How did that come about and explain to us what the experience is like in NJPW compared to your experiences in Shooto and Pride.

 

ENSON: Well, they called me. I never considered it, but the money and a lot of persuasion from Josh Barnett and here I am. I'm still not used to it, but I'm glad I gave it a shot. My heart is in MMA, but my business and face value has gone up tremendously because of Pro Wrestling. I've also met a lot of great people in the association.

 

MICK: More and more MMA fighters, past and present, are joining pro wrestling organizations in Japan. For people in the states that do not know what pro wrestling is like in Japan, please explain the differences between it and what we see here in the states (WWE).

 

ENSON: I think that WWE and NJPW has its hard core stuff. Japanese wrestlers will take more hits, get cut, and bleed more; while WWE wrestlers will take falls from scary heights. I think that the Japanese wrestlers can not create the drama as well as The Rock or Kurt Angle can, so they compensate by sometimes taking full on punches and actually getting put to sleep.

 

MICK: NJPW has begun to hold MMA fights at their events this past year. Since you are currently under contract to them, will we see you in any MMA rules fights for them in 2004?

 

ENSON: Most definitely. Pride or New Japan at 205 pounds.

 

MICK: If you return to full time MMA competition, what can fans expect to see different from the Enson we last saw in Pride compared to the Enson of today?

 

ENSON: An older Enson, that's for sure. Other than that, the same fire and using my head a bit more. That would be ideal.

 

MICK: Tell us how your mentality has evolved since saying you were going to retire after your loss to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at Pride 19 and what it is like now with the chance you will return to MMA competition?

 

ENSON: I think I can be more focused and because of injuries and age, I will be forced to use my head more.

 

MICK: You are known for your never say die attitude and your unwillingness to tap out, even if it means serious damage to yourself. Can you explain to people why you refuse to tap out?

 

ENSON: Great question. You know... there are two Ensons... one in the ring and one outside of the ring. “Ring Enson” thinks “Outside the Ring Enson” is a pussy. “Ring Enson” wouldn't tap even if he took a worse beating than the one he took from Igor (Vovchanchyn, at Pride 10). “Ring Enson” is willing to die in the ring. “Ring Enson” thinks of his fight with Igor and recalls the chances he had to change the momentum in the fight. Thinks of what he needs to work on to crush his opponent if ever in the same situation. Call it stupid or crazy, but that's the in-ring Enson, "there is no better way to die than in the midst of battle… fighting to the very end… like a man."

 

Now there is “Outside the ring Enson” and, first of all, he thinks “Ring Enson” is an absolute idiot. “Outside the ring Enson” watched the Enson versus Igor fight and cringed the whole 10 minutes. He felt a bit scared for the guy getting pounded by Igor, only to realize that that was him. He watches the video and thinks that next time he should tap, knowing all the damage that he received during that battle. I had a ruptured left eardrum, cracked jaw (right side), swollen brain, broken right index finger, and a liver count 2000 times the normal person. I was hospitalized for 4 days and out of action for 3 months. The doctors told me that the swelling in my brain was very critical because bleeding in the brain could have easily occurred... and if bleeding occurred, I wouldn't be answering this right now. “Outside the ring Enson” says, "realize when you are defeated, get out in one piece, learn, and live to fight another day."

 

MICK: So having said that, would you ever consider tapping out?

 

ENSON: No, I wouldn't tap. It may sound stupid, but I would rather die than tap.

 

MICK: That never say die attitude is shared by fellow MMA and pro wrestling veteran Don Frye. If you faced Frye, what do you think would happen?

 

ENSON: Don Frye is a friend, so I would never fight him. If we ever did fight though, the hospital would have two bodies to fix.

 

MICK: You’ve relocated from the US to Japan, tell us what it is like being out of the States and how you are enjoying things in your new homeland?

 

ENSON: I love it. This is the heart of MMA. This is the place to be. This is my home.

 

MICK: You have four Purebred Team gyms, not only in Japan, but one in Guam as well, tell us how they came about.

 

ENSON: I was approached by sponsors. Guam was done on my own for my little brothers in Guam. All my students are my family. Of the other four, two are from legit sponsors and the other two are sponsored by the Japanese Yakuza and the Chinese Mafia respectively.

 

MICK: The Japanese Yakuza and Chinese Mafia? What is your relationship like with them?

 

ENSON: They are actually good friends, sort of like family. These guys’ whole lifestyle is about being tough and having power. My fighting style and beliefs just so happen to go hand in hand with what they believe is an ideal man. I get a tremendous amount of respect from these guys.

 

MICK: There has been a lot of controversy this year in MMA. What do you think can be done to cut down on it and keep the fights where they should be finished, in the ring, by the two fighters?

 

ENSON: Give more of a finishing incentive and recruit fighters not by their win/loss record, but instead, on their aggressiveness.

 

MICK: In this past year, we have seen fighters such as Dan Henderson go into fights not 100% healthy. You have done this before (albeit against the wishes of doctors), how much of a disadvantage does it put you to not be at full health going into a fight?

 

ENSON: Nothing. As long as it’s not a broken bone or a completely torn ligament, it shouldn't affect one fight. Those minor injuries only affect you as much as you let it. Mental preparation is 90% of overcoming any adversities like small injuries. If my body is not 100%, then you better believe that mentally, I'll be 110%.

 

MICK: People have made a big deal out of the fact that Hidehiko Yoshida uses a gi in his fights. You have fought with both a gi and without a gi. Tell us, what are the differences and/or advantages/disadvantages of it?

 

ENSON: The advantages are: it prevents slipping from sweat and it adds a few more options for chokes. The disadvantages are: your opponent can grab a hold of you and control you more.

 

MICK: You were included in Pride’s video game, what is it like to see yourself represented in the video game world?

 

ENSON: Pretty trippy. It's really cool. I'm flattered. However, my son always picks Nogueira and kicks my ass.

 

MICK: Speaking of your son, has fatherhood changed you at all? Your son plays the games, so does he understand what his father does/did and would you let him get into MMA when he gets older?

 

ENSON: Fatherhood hasn't changed me much, but it has changed my direction in life a lot. I still work hard at my future. The only difference is that, in the back of my mind, it's all about creating a good future for my family and my son after I pass on. My son understands exactly what I do. In fact, he's the very one telling me to fight in Pride again. He keeps telling me to fight Wanderlei (Silva, Pride Middleweight and Grand Prix 2003 Champion). He also wants to fight in Pride in the future and wants a shit load of tattoos too. Yikes!

 

MICK: Lastly is there anything you want to say to the MMA fans around the world or anyone you want to give a shout out too?

 

ENSON: Yes. I would like to thank everyone for all the support throughout the years. I look forward to getting back in the battlefield again being able to say, “I’m Back!”

 

 

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