Hektik 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 This is my rant about the missed opportunity that was Eddie Guerrero. It was just a few months ago that Eddie was the most over guy on Smackdown. The best part was that he was getting over by himself. It was his wrestling skills and charisma that got him over. In typical WWE fashion they went against the audience and tried to turn him heel. It did not work, the crowd loved him too much to accept it. The WWE had no choice but to keep him as a face. They pushed him as a singles wrestler and became the first WWE United States Champion. Chavo came back from an injury and Eddie pulled double duty as US and Tag Team champion. It looked like he was starting to become the main focus of the show. On at least two occasions, Smackdown could have been called the Eddie Guerrero show. He then started his feud with the Big Show, which was the Beginning of the end. Big Show is the last step before entering the main event scene. It looked like that was where Eddie was going but it was not to be. He lost to Show but it could have been a blessing. The US title was off him and he wasn’t destroyed by the Big Show. The only reason he lost was because Show brutally attacked by him a few days earlier. Now all they had to do was get the tag belt off of him, but the WWE does what is always does and mess things up. Eddie did lose the tag belts but HE was pinned by a Basham. Logic would have Chavo lose the belts and Eddie goes on to bigger things. We all know where this goes, Eddie and Chavo feud with the Bashams and are now going to feud with each other in the mid-card. The worse part about it is that the WWE are dragging this pointless feud out. It seems they want this match to happen at No Way Out or Wrestlemania. My point is that Eddie could be doing so much more. I can not think of a reason why Eddie would be dropped down the card. He was getting the loudest pops and the WWE did nothing about it. John Cena strarts getting Eddie size pops and he is pushed in the World title picture. Eddie could have been huge by now but the WWE put an end to it. Eddie could have been the first latino World Champion and the first latino WWE champion since Pedro Morales in the 70s. I do not think he is a total lost cause, but it is going to take some work to get him back to where he was. So what do you guys think? Is he a lost cause or can he be re-established? Do you see him as a future World Champion or do you see him as a “mid-card handyman” (Jim Ross’s Quote) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 9, 2003 This pointless, stupid Chavo nonsense has ruined whtever momentum Eddy had. They Kurt Angle'd Eddy and it's gonna take him months (after the Chavo feud, so it's like six months starting in March) to recover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 They should have capitalized by pushing him to the moon post-SummerSlam, US title or not. The Big Show mess ruined any chance of him riding the huge wave to super-success. He can still do it, but it'll be way harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ligerbomb03 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I hated it when Chavo returned because I knew exactly what might happen, and it happened. WWE really, really dropped the ball on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 9, 2003 They should have capitalized by pushing him to the moon post-SummerSlam, US title or not. The Big Show mess ruined any chance of him riding the huge wave to super-success. He can still do it, but it'll be way harder. The Big Show feud didn't hurt Eddy. The shit was stupid, but it didn't kill heat and it got the belt off eddy without making him look bad. This Eddy mess falls firmly on the shoulders of the Chavo feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 They should have capitalized by pushing him to the moon post-SummerSlam, US title or not. The Big Show mess ruined any chance of him riding the huge wave to super-success. He can still do it, but it'll be way harder. The Big Show feud didn't hurt Eddy. The shit was stupid, but it didn't kill heat and it got the belt off eddy without making him look bad. This Eddy mess falls firmly on the shoulders of the Chavo feud. I disagree. The Big Show feud was so stupid and it totally killed Eddy's momentum. The Chavo feud does suck, but Eddy was already losing momentum during the Show feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Eddy should have beaten Show at the PPV to prove how cheating can beat anyone of any size. I knew he was finished after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 9, 2003 They should have capitalized by pushing him to the moon post-SummerSlam, US title or not. The Big Show mess ruined any chance of him riding the huge wave to super-success. He can still do it, but it'll be way harder. The Big Show feud didn't hurt Eddy. The shit was stupid, but it didn't kill heat and it got the belt off eddy without making him look bad. This Eddy mess falls firmly on the shoulders of the Chavo feud. I disagree. The Big Show feud was so stupid and it totally killed Eddy's momentum. But it didn't kill his heat. In fact, if he would have somehow cheated to beat Show at some point, that feud would have been even better. The fans didn't look down on eddy for losing to Show because he dominated the feud and looked good in the loss. The minute they started an "Eddy's a loser" program with the heatless Chavo, the reaction dwindled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I agree with Anglesault here. Big Show was a borderline main eventer and Eddy was going in 'injured'. It was when they jobbed him to the Bashams and started this losing storyline that it killed his heat. The events happened so close to each other that it is easy to get confused, but people do not support losers which was exactly what WWE was asking them to do. Unlike what certain people like Vince McMahon or Vince Russo will tell you, winning and losing does matter in terms of fan reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I see your point, Anglesault, and I definitely agree the sharp drop happened right as soon as the Chavo dealy started, but I still think it BEGAN with the Big Show feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I posted this thread in another forum and somebody brought up that IF Chris Benoit wins the world title and IF he holds it for at least 3 months, Eddie would get a shot do to their long time rivalry. The only problem is that there are too many ifs in that scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Eddy looked at the time mucho closer to getting the World title that Benoit did... he was indeed the most over guy in the company....but then again its NOT about the fans so mcmahon got pissed off and decided to kick him down and screw with him putting Chavo back on him like a ball n chain.. Not that Chavo is bad at all, it just that Eddy got better opportunities now in the singles. So does Chavo too if they let him go on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Not that Chavo is bad at all In the ring, no, but Chavo really isn't over and has no real hook to get him over. Eddy should avoid him like the plague. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Eddy can recover after this Chavo mess is finished, but by the time he does the WWE will have wasted pretty much a year of opportunity to push Guerrero to the top. And given the WWE's track record, if Eddy once again becames hugely over there's no guarentees they wouldn't mess up again anyway. They may never have a better opportunity to push Eddy to the moon than they had these last few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Maybe they could break up Los Guerreros without a feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 The Chavo stuff has hurt Eddie no doubt, but I'm baffled as to why they took both belts off him. I thought it was just to get him primed for a world title shot, but that hasn't happened. I'm guessing that Eddie wanted to be a nice guy and help get Chavo over. Not really blaming the bookers on this one. Chavo and Eddie have done good stuff together in the past, but this time it's not clicking. To be honest I don't think Eddie's heat has diminished. It's just that he isn't DOING anything. If he was tossed back into a title scene I bet he'd be the most over guy on SMDN with no trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Human Fly 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I do not know why anyone is surprised by this. When does WWE ever put someone over into the top when the crowd makes them hot? If it is not in their plans then that person does not go over. Period. Look at Tajiri when he first came in, RVD, Jericho, Mysterio, Booker T, Hurricane, etc., etc. Stone Cold was red hot for almost two years before he got the Heavyweight Title. John Cena is going to the top and is hot with the fans, but he has always been in the plans of the company. Brock was heatless when he got his monster push. I do not hear much heat right now for Hardcore Holly, Mark Henry, Randy Orton but they are getting good pushes. It is also the same reason that A-Train, Big Show, Regal, Test, Billy Gunn, Bradshaw, etc., etc. always get solid pushes that exceed their heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 A-Train, Big Show, and Regal are all over enough to warrant the pushes they get. Especially since A-Train's pushes consist of, "Get built up to job to mid-card face we want in the main event." Wow, some push there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 9, 2003 how they hurt eddy: 1. They took a title that Eddy actually made meaningful, had him drop it to the Big Show and now he never defends it. 2. They stick him in the "when is he gonna turn" angle with Chavo, that will hurt Eddy and do nothing good for Chavo. 3. His television time has been cut for no reason. 4. They lower Eddy on the card, and put boring no talent hosses (Matt Morgan, and Nathan Jones) in the place where Eddy is. I could probably do about 50 more of these but I think this says enough........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites