Public Schools Cannot Discriminate....

[Guest MikeSC]

Maybe it's time for ALL minority groups to learn ONE KEY LESSON:

 

The majority DOESN'T GIVE ONE DAMN ABOUT YOU. You can do almost anything you want because WE DO NOT CARE ONE LITTLE BIT. The straight community doesn't care too much the gay community. Whites don't care enough to oppress blacks.

            -=Mike

really?

 

REALLLY???

Really. Yes, really.

I was watching the news this one time and I saw this guy talking about he would fight to make it an amendment that gays cannot be married, despite their marrige not effecting the straight community what so ever.  What was his name again...

 

Come on Mike, lets not act like there are plenty of straight people that somehow believe that what goes on between two people is their business because it goes against their beliefs.

It is, in fact, 95%+ of straights who don't give a damn.

It'd be like me saying that the "kill whitey" blacks are anything more than the miniscule minority of blacks that it is.

 

OK, think about yourself:

Do you spend much time worrying about Jews? Gays? Whites?

 

No, because you have a LIFE to LIVE and YOU don't have the TIME to want to oppress them.

 

Whites are the same. Minority groups have this asinine belief that the "majority" group actually cares when we, honestly, couldn't conceivably care less about what is going on with them. It's like dark-skinned blacks hating light-skinned blacks --- do you think WHITES actually give a damn one way or the other?

 

The world is ruled by apathy. Oppression takes a lot more work and dedication than anybody is willing to expend.

Shit people were pissed when the supreme court said homosexuals having sex isn't a crime.  THEY GOT PISSED OFF.  ELECTED OFFICIALS.

And they represent a TINY MINORITY. You don't hear me saying that Louis Farrakhan's anti-Semitic pablum represents mainstream black Americans thinking, do you?

The had no worries about stepping on television and saying that the court was wrong for saying two consenting adults could have sex, and didn't have to worry about backlash. 

Because they represent the tiny minority that exists. But, the VAST majority just don't give two damns. I don't care who you bang in your bedroom. Don't tell me about it is all I ask.

 

Homosexual behavior is the lamest way to describe people. I mean, Marney is homosexual --- but I dare say that in the wide array of descriptions of her, "lesbian" is rather low on the list.

Its a warm and cozy belief that people have a live and let live type of mindframe but we both know it isn't so.

It is so. People DON'T CARE.

 

We don't have the time, energy, or desire to oppress anybody. When minority groups recognize that (though, honestly, the leadership DOES know it --- but they know that fighting the "majority who hates you" = BIG MONEY), we'll all be better off.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Red-headed chicks are either stunningly gorgeous ---

 

or the MOST hideous women out there.

 

It's amazing that there really is no middle ground here. I've never seen an OK-looking red-head.

          -=Mike

Watch it, buddy.

Nothing offensive meant.

 

Beautiful red-headed women are amazingly beautiful. Just absolutely jaw-dropping. Best looking women on the planet in my not-too-humble opinion.

 

Unattractive red-heads are hideous beasts. There just is no middle ground that I've ever seen. They are either jaw dropping --- or jaw dropping (in a not good manner)

-=Mike

[Guest Cerebus]

<--------is engaged to a brunette

 

 

[2GOLD 0]

Red-headed chicks are either stunningly gorgeous ---

 

or the MOST hideous women out there.

 

It's amazing that there really is no middle ground here. I've never seen an OK-looking red-head.

          -=Mike

Watch it, buddy.

Nothing offensive meant.

 

Beautiful red-headed women are amazingly beautiful. Just absolutely jaw-dropping. Best looking women on the planet in my not-too-humble opinion.

 

Unattractive red-heads are hideous beasts. There just is no middle ground that I've ever seen. They are either jaw dropping --- or jaw dropping (in a not good manner)

-=Mike

 

Well, that is a good thing though right?

Who really needs a middle ground?

 

But I can't remember ever seeing an ugly red-head.....ever.....you sure they exist?

I know they have too...but I don't remember any....ever.

 

Oh and Mr Rant; yes, you are evil. Be proud, it takes a helluva lot more work to remain evil. Hell, look at lawyers compared to the education of those special teachers.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Maybe it's time for ALL minority groups to learn ONE KEY LESSON:

 

The majority DOESN'T GIVE ONE DAMN ABOUT YOU. You can do almost anything you want because WE DO NOT CARE ONE LITTLE BIT. The straight community doesn't care too much the gay community. Whites don't care enough to oppress blacks.

-=Mike

This post (and the posts that proceeded it along the same message) would have had more impact if it hadn't been on the same page as a straight guy posting:

 

I can't belive there's a Christian school with gay people in it. It's sick!

 

What is the world coming to? Seriously. 50 years ago, we didn't have Queer Eye For the Straight Guy. Homosexuality wasn't popular. Now, its the in thing it seems. Stop it! I hope my grandchildren, 50 years from now, will not have to become homosexuals to be ACCEPTED. That would be sick!

[Guest MikeSC]

Well, that is a good thing though right?

Who really needs a middle ground?

 

But I can't remember ever seeing an ugly red-head.....ever.....you sure they exist?

I know they have too...but I don't remember any....ever.

 

Oh and Mr Rant; yes, you are evil. Be proud, it takes a helluva lot more work to remain evil. Hell, look at lawyers compared to the education of those special teachers.

I didn't say it was a bad thing.

 

As for ugly red-heads --- yes, sadly, I have seen them. Unspeakably nasty-looking.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

This post (and the posts that proceeded it along the same message) would have had more impact if it hadn't been on the same page as a straight guy posting:

 

I can't belive there's a Christian school with gay people in it. It's sick!

 

What is the world coming to? Seriously. 50 years ago, we didn't have Queer Eye For the Straight Guy. Homosexuality wasn't popular. Now, its the in thing it seems. Stop it! I hope my grandchildren, 50 years from now, will not have to become homosexuals to be ACCEPTED. That would be sick!

And, the concept of "the majority" is, yet again, lost to those who wish to assume that few represent most.

 

Straight people DO NOT CARE about gays. Do YOU personally spend any time worrying about what the gay community is doing right now?

 

If no, why in the heck do you think MOST people would, either?

If yes, don't you have anything better to do with your life?

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

<--------is engaged to a brunette

 

 

<----------------

 

WAS engaged to a brunette.

-=Mike

...VERY much past-tense

[Jobber of the Week 0]

And, the concept of "the majority" is, yet again, lost to those who wish to assume that few represent most.

 

Straight people DO NOT CARE about gays. Do YOU personally spend any time worrying about what the gay community is doing right now?

No, and I don't expect the vast majority of straight people to either. I assume they don't hate gays, but don't spend a lot of time thinking about them.

 

But I care what the other minority, the fundie minority, are doing because it could impact me. See, although they're number-wise a minority, politically they have more power than this minority and are almost accepted by your majority.

 

So all I ask is that when they start making headway against the gay minority through things like amendment bans to further their view, that the majority help out and say "that's not right." Just as I'd expect them to do in cases where the gays are moving in a direction that is counter to populist opinion (such as the gay high school.)

[Guest MikeSC]

No, and I don't expect the vast majority of straight people to either. I assume they don't hate gays, but don't spend a lot of time thinking about them.

EXACTLY. Most minority groups have this asinine notion that the majority wants to OPPRESS them --- when, truth be known, the majority DOESN'T CARE about them.

But I care what the other minority, the fundie minority, are doing because it could impact me. See, although they're number-wise a minority, politically they have more power than this minority and are almost accepted by your majority.

What power do they have? They bitch and moan more --- but I'm not seeing their desires being enforced as law to any great degree. Most straights don't care about gays and despise extremists on EITHER side of the issue.

So all I ask is that when they start making headway against the gay minority through things like amendment bans to further their view, that the majority help out and say "that's not right." Just as I'd expect them to do in cases where the gays are moving in a direction that is counter to populist opinion (such as the gay high school.)

People have a problem with the gay high school because it violates the law.

 

The Citadel accepts women now because institutions that are publicly funded are not permitted to refuse admittance of ANY particular group --- which this high school, apparently, does. So, yes, there is a problem with it for that reason and I personally feel it should either accept NO public funds --- or it should allow straight kids to attend.

 

As for the amendment --- people want amendments for lots of things. The vast majority of straights --- yes, I'm speaking for us now --- DO NOT HONESTLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

What power do they have? They bitch and moan more --- but I'm not seeing their desires being enforced as law to any great degree. Most straights don't care about gays and despise extremists on EITHER side of the issue.

You damn well know that they exist. They proudly declare themselves the moral anchor of the Republican Party. They provide a lot of money to candidates to further their ideology into state or national agenda.

 

People have a problem with the gay high school because it violates the law.

 

The Citadel accepts women now because institutions that are publicly funded are not permitted to refuse admittance of ANY particular group --- which this high school, apparently, does. So, yes, there is a problem with it for that reason and I personally feel it should either accept NO public funds --- or it should allow straight kids to attend.

 

Actually, it does allow straight kids to attend (Link: Admission (...) is voluntary and open to all, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or physical abilities.) but the general arguement against it is that it's new-age segregation paid for by taxpayers. Most people seem to agree and I'll grudgingly accept that, too, although having been a kid who was taken advantage of all the time in school I can't avoid saying that I can see the need for such institutions in a private setting.

 

As for the amendment --- people want amendments for lots of things. The vast majority of straights --- yes, I'm speaking for us now --- DO NOT HONESTLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.

 

That's a shame, then. It's unnecessary clutter for the constitution at the least, and federally-sanctioned inequality at the worst. I wish more of the "vast majority" cared about those things, even if it doesn't affect them.

[Guest MikeSC]

What power do they have? They bitch and moan more --- but I'm not seeing their desires being enforced as law to any great degree. Most straights don't care about gays and despise extremists on EITHER side of the issue.

You damn well know that they exist. They proudly declare themselves the moral anchor of the Republican Party. They provide a lot of money to candidates to further their ideology into state or national agenda.

That, my friend, in unmitigated bullshit. The Bush administration has not even MENTIONED an amendment that I am aware of and definitely have not endorsed one.

 

They can give money all day long --- THEIR DESIRES ARE NOT BEING FURTHERED BY THE GOP. What has the GOP done to hurt gays in --- well, a long time? I can't name a single bill.

As for the amendment --- people want amendments for lots of things. The vast majority of straights --- yes, I'm speaking for us now --- DO NOT HONESTLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.

 

That's a shame, then. It's unnecessary clutter for the constitution at the least, and federally-sanctioned inequality at the worst. I wish more of the "vast majority" cared about those things, even if it doesn't affect them.

Why SHOULD we care? All kinds of nutjobs want all kinds of asinine things. You can either fret about all of them, or just ignore the assorted wingnuts.

-=Mike

[EricMM 0]

Then why won't the GOP allow homosexual civil unions the same economical status that heterosexual marriages receive?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Then why won't the GOP allow homosexual civil unions the same economical status that heterosexual marriages receive?

What you mean throw a marriage tax at them?

[Guest JMA]

Isn't Bush trying to ban gay marriages? I remember reading an article here that mentioned he had lawyers "working on it." Anyone have an update on that situation?

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Re: Redheads

 

I'm best friends with one that I'd describe as "middle ground." I, personally, find her to be beautiful, but most others would just go "meh, alright." So that gets rid of THAT belief that all redheads are either gorgeous or nasty.

 

As for the topic at hand...meh. If she felt so righteous about her "cause," then why didn't she just start her own gathering to speak her beliefs? People these days want too much attention.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

The Bush administration has not even MENTIONED an amendment that I am aware of and definitely have not endorsed one.

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20030730-1.html

 

Q Thank you, sir. Mr. President, many of your supporters believe that homosexuality is immoral. They believe that it's been given too much acceptance in policy terms and culturally. As someone who's spoken out in strongly moral terms, what's your view on homosexuality?

 

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I am mindful that we're all sinners, and I caution those who may try to take the speck out of their neighbor's eye when they got a log in their own. I think it's very important for our society to respect each individual, to welcome those with good hearts, to be a welcoming country. On the other hand, that does not mean that somebody like me needs to compromise on an issue such as marriage. And that's really where the issue is heading here in Washington, and that is the definition of marriage. I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I believe a marriage is between a man and a woman. And I think we ought to codify that one way or the other. And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I have a question for SpiderPoet; why is it that only some Catholics are saved, and not others, and what will happen to these "unsaved" Catholics? How do they know of their "unsavedness"? Legitimate questions.

[Guest MikeSC]

Then why won't the GOP allow homosexual civil unions the same economical status that heterosexual marriages receive?

Because they DON'T CARE. At all.

 

Marry if you wish.

 

We just won't give you any benefits --- or any tax problems.

-=Mike

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I have a question for SpiderPoet; why is it that only some Catholics are saved, and not others, and what will happen to these "unsaved" Catholics? How do they know of their "unsavedness"? Legitimate questions.

Because there are a lot of frauds out there.

[Guest MikeSC]

The Bush administration has not even MENTIONED an amendment that I am aware of and definitely have not endorsed one.

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20030730-1.html

 

Q Thank you, sir. Mr. President, many of your supporters believe that homosexuality is immoral. They believe that it's been given too much acceptance in policy terms and culturally. As someone who's spoken out in strongly moral terms, what's your view on homosexuality?

 

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I am mindful that we're all sinners, and I caution those who may try to take the speck out of their neighbor's eye when they got a log in their own. I think it's very important for our society to respect each individual, to welcome those with good hearts, to be a welcoming country. On the other hand, that does not mean that somebody like me needs to compromise on an issue such as marriage. And that's really where the issue is heading here in Washington, and that is the definition of marriage. I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I believe a marriage is between a man and a woman. And I think we ought to codify that one way or the other. And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that.

Difference between actually giving a damn about what homosexuals do and redefining marriage. I doubt he'd care if they called them all civil unions or the like.

-=Mike

[EricMM 0]

So a man and a woman can jointly file for taxes if they say their in love but a man and another man or a woman and another woman cannot?

 

Thats wrong. Thats discrimination.

[NoCalMike 0]

it seems to be a civial rights issue to me, and with that being said, it is a violation.

[Guest JMA]

What the GOP should do is tell the Religious Right to fuck off. It would greatly help their image, IMO.

 

I don't fully understand the argument AGAINST gay marriage. Most of the opponents of it seem to only have reasons based on tradition and/or religion. Tradition is important, but it shouldn't rule people's lives. As for any religious reasons...well, who fucking cares, really?

[Guest MikeSC]

So a man and a woman can jointly file for taxes if they say their in love but a man and another man or a woman and another woman cannot?

 

Thats wrong. Thats discrimination.

Why on God's earth would anybody WANT to do that? Not much of a benefit in filing seperately.

 

Personally, I don't give two damns about the issue.

-=Mike

[NoCalMike 0]

What the GOP should do is tell the Religious Right to fuck off. It would greatly help their image, IMO.

 

I don't fully understand the argument AGAINST gay marriage. Most of the opponents of it seem to only have reasons based on tradition and/or religion. Tradition is important, but it shouldn't rule people's lives. As for any religious reasons...well, who fucking cares, really?

it has NOTHING to do with tradition. It has 100% to do with a large amount of people in this country still not comprehending that homosexuality is not some "weird disease" Ok maybe not that bad, but a lot of people have still not accepted being gay as a normal thing. We still have scientists trying to come up with reasons why some people are gay.........Because of things like this, Homosexuality will not be viewed as normal for awhile. We are getting there, but have a ways to go. Once it is viewed as normal and a part of everyday life, then gay marriage will be legal. BTW, it should be now.

 

Also, if it has to do with religious convictions then those opinions should be given even less weight & consideration then the "traditions" argument considering one person's religion should have NOTHING to do with ME.

[Guest MikeSC]

What the GOP should do is tell the Religious Right to fuck off. It would greatly help their image, IMO.

 

I don't fully understand the argument AGAINST gay marriage. Most of the opponents of it seem to only have reasons based on tradition and/or religion. Tradition is important, but it shouldn't rule people's lives. As for any religious reasons...well, who fucking cares, really?

it has NOTHING to do with tradition. It has 100% to do with a large amount of people in this country still not comprehending that homosexuality is not some "weird disease" Ok maybe not that bad, but a lot of people have still not accepted being gay as a normal thing. We still have scientists trying to come up with reasons why some people are gay.........Because of things like this, Homosexuality will not be viewed as normal for awhile. We are getting there, but have a ways to go. Once it is viewed as normal and a part of everyday life, then gay marriage will be legal. BTW, it should be now.

Straights do NOT CARE about homosexuals.

-=Mike

[NoCalMike 0]

Straights do NOT CARE about homosexuals.

-=Mike

Clarify for me this statement: Do you mean don't care like, "I am not a homosexual, why should I care about what a homosexual can or can't do" ?

[Guest SP-1]

I have a question for SpiderPoet; why is it that only some Catholics are saved, and not others, and what will happen to these "unsaved" Catholics? How do they know of their "unsavedness"? Legitimate questions.

Because there's zero biblical basis for putting your faith in the institution of the church, in Saints, in Mary, or for a priest having the power to declare sins forgiven. Only Christ. He's biblically the one and only way to forgiveness. If your faith isn't fully on Him alone, you've got an eternal problem on your hands.

 

Some Catholics out there realize this, and somehow make it work. But there are alot out there that believe their annual confessional with a priest does the trick and, biblically, it doesn't. Unfortunately, they only way for them to come across this information is to investigate it for themselves or for a Christian who knows the difference to explain the theological ramifications of the catholic doctrines to them. That I can think of, at least.

[EricMM 0]

I've always seen Catholics as Christians+. They do all that regular christians do, and then they have all this unncecessary stuff.

 

Personally, I think that God does work through priests, in the Catholics circles. Since they OBVIOUSLY believe in Jesus and revere him and live according to His rules and message, the fact that they confess their sins doesn't HURT them.

 

I don't know many Catholics who believe in Priests but NOT in Jesus.