Guest Just J Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I must say the last time there was a swerve of this magnitude it involved the nWo when Hogan turned heel. I didn't actually like what happened Monday night but the simple fact that nobody saw it coming made it pretty damn good. Plus I, believe it or not, have faith that this will lead to something big. For right now though I'll just be happy that I was actually surprised at something the writers did, for once in a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMark 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 This foley thing doesn't touch Hogan's turn. Foley just walked out he didn't even turn heel or anything. I liked it too but on nWo level.....helll no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted December 17, 2003 It was a swerve? It wasn't even hyped up. How many people even know about it? If you missed Raw, you missed everything. It's not like the WWE has been hyping Foley's return to the ring for months or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 When Austin walked out on the company? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted December 17, 2003 ^Forgot about that one raz. Call it what you want but who saw Foley walking out on a match as a possible end to the match/show? If anyone says they did, then they are lying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Survivor Series 98: Lot of people expected HBK to be the mystery opponent, but it turned out to be Dwayne Gill. No Way Out 98:A lot of people expected HBK to be the mystery opponent, but it turned out to be Savio Vega. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I didn't really think of it as a swerve. A swerve to me would be if Goldberg ran down to the ring before the match started, attacked Orton and then Foley attacked Goldberg to join Evolution. Foley walking out was a surprise, not really a swerve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted December 17, 2003 A good swerve? When Hunter won the title on Sunday night. I didn't see that coming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 It wasn't a swerve. It was a copout. There's a huge difference between the two. And besides, the last great WWE swerve is still the formation of ECW, to team with WCW, on that Raw in July 2001. Unfortunately, as we all know, they ruined it an hour later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I just remembered....RAW X! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Swerve: 1. A joke that one wrestler does to another. 2. A false report that a wrestler or promoter leaks to the press. 3. When a finish of a match is changed so that all of the industry insiders are left shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted December 17, 2003 And besides, the last great WWE swerve is still the formation of ECW, to team with WCW, on that Raw in July 2001. Unfortunately, as we all know, they ruined it an hour later. I had forgot about that one too, and I was actually there when it happened. Damn short-term memory! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatMuta Report post Posted December 17, 2003 The best swerve is when they ordered the Ultimate Warrior to lose to someone, and he did his usual Warrior sprints around the ring, high fived fans. Got in the ring, shoke the ropes up, and just ran backstage, and walked out on the company a bit. Now that is hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Oh c'mon people....Edge and Christian mastered THE SWERVE~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Swerve: 1. A joke that one wrestler does to another. 2. A false report that a wrestler or promoter leaks to the press. 3. When a finish of a match is changed so that all of the industry insiders are left shocked. No one was really shocked, they just thought it was dumb as fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 (edited) Swerve: 1. A joke that one wrestler does to another. 2. A false report that a wrestler or promoter leaks to the press. 3. When a finish of a match is changed so that all of the industry insiders are left shocked. Excuse me sir, but in what dictionary did you find this definition to the word swerve? My dictionary seems to have something entirely different. Edited December 18, 2003 by OlympicHeroRVD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 The Brett Hart and Dudley midgets! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Undertaker punks out JR and shoves his face into Vince's ass! We laughed. But only because our general concensus is that undertaker's face when he punches people is hilarious, with 56% commenting it appears 'as challenging as linear algebra' judging by his expression, and 34% citing 'him making such a fucking big deal out of it' as the reason for the comic value. And of course, were JR to be punched by anyone for at least 50% of every raw, 78% of saturnsmarks4lives agree this would make 'must-see viewing'. One bright spark suggested an audience raffle to bring about who twatted the fat fuck. But to stay on topic, that was a memorable swerve for the majority of saturnsmarks4lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Call it what you want, but that angle had swerve written all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 I have to say, this wasn't a swerve. As Dames said, it was a bait-and-switch. And by all accounts it sucked, but I'll have to wait until friday to see. What's the betting that with Foley giving up his GM-powers they pull another bait-and-switch with Bischoff cancelling Michael's title match with Trips? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted December 18, 2003 In like March wasn't Booker T/Rock suppose to take place but Rock fought Jeff Hardy instead? Same with Hurricane.His match with Hurricane was announced that it will take place "Next Week" but happened the week after that week. In March Brock/Angle was announced to happen on Smackdown but the match did not happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Jericho turning heel on the Rock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Jericho turning heel on the Rock? No, they built that one up for months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Jericho turning heel on the Rock? No, they built that one up for months. I thought so. Show's how forgettable the WWF has been when I can't really think of anything since WMX-7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 The ECW reunion on RAW during the Invasion is probably the biggest one I can think of. I'd say Flair coming out the night after the Invasion ended, but everyone had an idea that he could be in the arena that night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 The best swerve is when they ordered the Ultimate Warrior to lose to someone, and he did his usual Warrior sprints around the ring, high fived fans. Got in the ring, shoke the ropes up, and just ran backstage, and walked out on the company a bit. Now that is hilarious. When was this? Oh yeah and Gail Kim's heel turn. That one caught me by surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted December 18, 2003 The best swerve in recent times is Mighty Molly becoming Iron Virgin Molly in Wrestlemania 18, stir frying Hurricane in her wok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Undertaker punks out JR and shoves his face into Vince's ass! We laughed. But only because our general concensus is that undertaker's face when he punches people is hilarious, with 56% commenting it appears 'as challenging as linear algebra' judging by his expression, and 34% citing 'him making such a fucking big deal out of it' as the reason for the comic value. And of course, were JR to be punched by anyone for at least 50% of every raw, 78% of saturnsmarks4lives agree this would make 'must-see viewing'. One bright spark suggested an audience raffle to bring about who twatted the fat fuck. But to stay on topic, that was a memorable swerve for the majority of saturnsmarks4lives. Okay, I was watching the RAW X DVD, and there was a RAW Retro moment as a special feature. It showed ANGLE and Mcmahon forcing JR into the ring and then a CLOSEUP to make it look like underground porn. When I paused at this moment, I saw that it wasn't ANGLE whose hand was shoving JR into the ass, but it was the UNDERTAKER. Why did it turn out like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Swerve: 1. A joke that one wrestler does to another. 2. A false report that a wrestler or promoter leaks to the press. 3. When a finish of a match is changed so that all of the industry insiders are left shocked. I really don't think anyone was shocked. And just because it's a swerve......doesn't mean it's good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepoMan 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 That wasn't close to a swerve. WWE would never show Foley's return match w/o hyping it for weeks to months, esp. on free TV. It was just a very poorly booked angle even by WWE standards, and I the pay-off was a very bad idea in the first place. The only swerve that I really cared for in recent history was the ECW reforming angle, and it sucked in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites